Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

Just a Lotus Eater

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Part of me ain't even surprised she's dismissing one of the most crucial rules in creative writing. Or she literally doesn't get it and is trying to save face.

In case someone here does not know, "Show, don't tell" is a rule that means you should work to create a sense of imagery in your writing, making it more dynamic and therefore better to read, instead of just spelling what the characters are doing without more to it. Don't tell your reader a character is angry, show them by having them scream and curse at the top of their lungs! Don't tell a character is happy, descrive how they smile as they can barely get the words of gratitude to leave their mouths!

It has more uses besides emotional expression, and can be overdone and drag a scene if you use it everywhere, but that's the crux of it. It literally adds soul and movement to your writing, even helping to flesh out the world and characters not just by saying what they feel, but showing how they express it.

If that's her take on the rule, I made a good choice on not reading her stuff...
 

Lurkio

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Sorry for being a month late to the party, but I had to slip in for this, because you absolutely nailed it. Out of all the threads I keep an eye on here, Jerry is the only one I'm not here to laugh at. Instead, it's actually a deep sense of melancholy. In that single collab video they did, Josh and Jerry displayed such remarkable chemistry that I find myself pining for a timeline where we got more of that. All I wanted was to watch the good Christian boy and the degenerate sleazebag play off of each other, but instead, well, I got a thousand pages of why that was never going to happen.

So happy fucking belated birthday, Jerry. Here's to what should have been.
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I do think that's what brings in a lot of people into the this thread and keeps it going after all these years, an idea of what could have been/ what could be if Lily could just a grip on herself. Let's be honest, Lily is far from the most notorious or vile lolcow on this site and even outside here she's constantly teetering on the edge of obscurity. Yet, her thread remains one of the more active ones on this board, keeping up with people who were far bigger and/or fucked up harder then she ever did. One could attribute that to the steady stream of bad takes she makes and drama she gets herself into, as like any good dumbass on the Internet she never seems to realize she's not as smart of as influential as she thinks she is, but it seems like there's more to it then that.

Like you said, another big part of it is a sense of "what could have been", that unique sense of longing can keep a person attached to something in some small way for years, even a life time. Though a lot of us have spit out venom at Lily and wait for her to do another dumb thing and then laugh as she scrambles to cope or rationalize her screw up, I think alot of us secret hope that one of those things finally gets Lily to realize just how much she's screwing up her own life. We all know it's not going to happen at this point, nothing short of Jesus Christ himself descending from on high and telling Lily to get her act together would make her do so. It's almost certainly not going to happen, but I think most of us still like to entertain the idea of it happening.

Part of me ain't even surprised she's dismissing one of the most crucial rules in creative writing. Or she literally doesn't get it and is trying to save face.

In case someone here does not know, "Show, don't tell" is a rule that means you should work to create a sense of imagery in your writing, making it more dynamic and therefore better to read, instead of just spelling what the characters are doing without more to it. Don't tell your reader a character is angry, show them by having them scream and curse at the top of their lungs! Don't tell a character is happy, descrive how they smile as they can barely get the words of gratitude to leave their mouths!

It has more uses besides emotional expression, and can be overdone and drag a scene if you use it everywhere, but that's the crux of it. It literally adds soul and movement to your writing, even helping to flesh out the world and characters not just by saying what they feel, but showing how they express it.

If that's her take on the rule, I made a good choice on not reading her stuff...

Hell, a little more spuring and unnecessary analysis because why not, I haven't posted here in a bit?

I've held the belief that Lily CAN be smart, she's shown that several time before and anyone who's been here long enough doesn't need an example, and I think it's another one of the things that draws people here. That someone who can have these flashes of legitimate intelligence is so adamant in acting dumb. She could have ended up as a legitimately popular Youtuber after the horse fandom started drying up, like other Youtubers such as MysteryBen27 or Jenny Nicholson, but instead of deflating her head a bit she doubled down on her worse aspects, looked for inspiration in the wrong people, and is now stuck doing something she's lost passion in, with an audience she hates, with no other job aspects or connections to turn to if/ when her Youtube channel finally dries up.

Hell, I'll even say she could have become a semi-decent author if she actually buckled down a few times and tried to develop her writing abilities. She's been writing and posting stuff to the Internet for a decade and a half now and she's never really left the fanfiction writing level (I don't really count "Tales of the Valkyre" as an original property, it started out as a Family Guy/ MLP/ World of Warcraft/ Bible crossover fanfic and never fleshed itself out enough to deserve being called it's own thing, Hell, as far as I can tell, she hasn't posted a real "chapter" of the story anywhere.). I could be wrong, but I do believe Lily understands these rules, at least somewhat, she just doesn't follow them because they don't appeal to her and instead of just owning upto that, she decrys those rules as dumb or over praised, perhaps in order to maintain the delusion that she's actually a competent writer? I don't know, but I can guess.

At this point, I think Lily's ego is one of the few things she has left, Lizzy and Josh showed her that love and relationships can crumble at a moments notice (or rather, she's unable to realize when she's gradually driving people away) and she's had enough high and lows to know how fickle Youtube fame is, so much like Jim Sterling, Yahtzee, and the other big ego's she's idolized, she holds onto this belief that she's actually a great writer. We've seen her claim before that she never writes and publishes a real book or bothers to try to get into writing an actual T.V show due to lack of interest, but I think it's because that it would shatter the image she's built up for herself if she tried and failed, so she just doesn't bother trying. Lily is, sadly, happy to delude herself with the idea of "what could of been" instead of actually mustering up an honest attempt at doing something because her ego can't take a failure or rejection like that.

Anyways, I've spurged long enough, to put an neat bow on this; I definitely think that your on to something by saying that part of the draw of Lily is that you get a real sense of "what could have been", but I think it goes deeper then her Youtube career. Everything she does, right down to her crappy fanfic's and mediocre comic has shades of something good, Lily, just doesn't want to put in the tiniest amount of effort into those projects outside of them giving her immediate self gratification because, at this point, she's so wrapped up in her own ego she's afraid to leave the safe space she's made for herself. Unless she makes some big changes to her lifestyle, I guarantee she'll probably be in the same place she is now a decade from now when she's on the verge of hitting forty.
 
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Duine In Cudromach

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Part of me ain't even surprised she's dismissing one of the most crucial rules in creative writing. Or she literally doesn't get it and is trying to save face.

In case someone here does not know, "Show, don't tell" is a rule that means you should work to create a sense of imagery in your writing, making it more dynamic and therefore better to read, instead of just spelling what the characters are doing without more to it. Don't tell your reader a character is angry, show them by having them scream and curse at the top of their lungs! Don't tell a character is happy, descrive how they smile as they can barely get the words of gratitude to leave their mouths!

It has more uses besides emotional expression, and can be overdone and drag a scene if you use it everywhere, but that's the crux of it. It literally adds soul and movement to your writing, even helping to flesh out the world and characters not just by saying what they feel, but showing how they express it.

If that's her take on the rule, I made a good choice on not reading her stuff...

Just to be perfectly clear, Lily straight up does not know what 'show, don't tell' means.

Text said:
Really quickly, since this appears to be a point of ignorance for a lot of people.

Telling - Aliana didn’t much care for men. She preferred the company of women.

Showing - “Sorry, I’m gay,” Aliana shrugged.

Also, and here we’re getting into some advanced territory here: “Show, don’t tell” is not an absolute rule. Sometimes it’s better to just tell.
Yes. She thinks that a character literally telling somebody else a fact about themselves counts as showing.
 

A_Callow_Youth

Moonposting Martyr
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Holy shit, Jerry scitzoposting about how the CIA destroyed basic storytelling. I just said that I don't come here to laugh, but sometimes it just happens anyway.

I see these trannies on YouTube all the time now. they use a clearly feminine girl avatar, have a deep man voice or gay man voice, and then EVERYONE in the comments treats them as a girl. WTF how has the world lost its mind this much
In this case, there's a couple factors to consider: most people who don't play that game don't watch his shit anymore, and because Jerry actively filters the shit out of his comments section to keep the remainder out.
 

RhodesianInternetUser

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Holy shit, Jerry scitzoposting about how the CIA destroyed basic storytelling. I just said that I don't come here to laugh, but sometimes it just happens anyway.


In this case, there's a couple factors to consider: most people who don't play that game don't watch his shit anymore, and because Jerry actively filters the shit out of his comments section to keep the remainder out.
This is literally Marxism; disallowing people to use certain language and controlling their thought processes. I am shocked this is tolerated by humanity
 

Just a Lotus Eater

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Just to be perfectly clear, Lily straight up does not know what 'show, don't tell' means.


Yes. She thinks that a character literally telling somebody else a fact about themselves counts as showing.
This reminds me of another facet of the rule, which the use of actions to convey character traits. Why tell a character is X when you can show them being X?

Not gonna go into detail because this ain't a creative writing course, but I will say this: a mindset that is much needed for the application of this rule in writing is "Your audience is not dumb, they can figure things out for themselves". You don't need to tell them something just to make absolute sure they know it. Besides, a little bit of ambiguity is natural and harmless.

Given Lily's character, I believe y'all are smart enough to know why she might have a problem seeing the value of that rule without me telling ya.
 

thebananaonion

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teriyakiburns

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how pathetically stupid must you be to get basic shit light this wrong . Her showing example is telling and her telling example is closer to showing.


This is basic first English lesson on creative writing shit tought to 8 year olds.
They're both telling, just one is more blatant than the other.

Showing could be using behaviours to demonstrate the preference. Like, having the female character trying to avoid close physical contact with men while being all flirty and handsy with women.
 

LuciusTheTrap

Spreading the Elimine truth
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Are we honestly surprised Lily doesn't believe in one of the most basic rules of creative writing? She despises allegories and metaphors with a burning passion, and demands everything be on-the-nose and direct; this revalation is about as shocking as the sun rising in the morning.

I mean, seriously, her prose for her characters consists of listing a few basic features and lines such as "she was exceptionally pretty." Lily loves telling. If it wasn't for her audience already knowing what Rey looked like, I doubt they'd have been able to create a mental image of her based on Lily's description alone.
 

ShiftyBoi

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Just to be perfectly clear, Lily straight up does not know what 'show, don't tell' means.


Yes. She thinks that a character literally telling somebody else a fact about themselves counts as showing.
Oh my god her source is a MovieBob video. Of fucking course it is.
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saladimitate

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Son Goku Baku

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Is anyone else thinking that Liliiana was the one to send all those anons to KP in a attempt to investigate herself if there was a real chance without immediately doing so and risking being told a clear no? She must have been so happy either that KP didn't answered directly no and thinks she has a chance, so she'll probably start lovebombing her more often.

Let's ignore for a moment being polyamorous. Anyone who had just three break ups (including Lizzy) would need some time to mourn the lost relationship, especially when the ex-fuck toy was there for a good amount of months. But as soon she was gone she's pestering another available woman to add her into her collection. She collects women the way kids collect Pokemon cards, and if no one realizes this then I feel sorry for KP.
Think when they break up Lily will still keep all Mikaila's videos/ her name in the channel just like she kept the last name of her """rapist"""?
My prediction is that Mikaila'll do most of the work, will respond to most of the critcism and when they have the inevitable nasty divorce, Liliana'll keep any money from it. I don't think anyone here would be fool into seeing this as anything else but to get free labor.

Mikaila did say they were planning to do this on one of her videos after they were married, but just like Liliana couldn't wait to put a ring on a 19 year old Lizzy she didn't had any patience for this anymore. I hope Mikaila enjoys finally getting just part of the backlash she always complained was only directed at Liliana. I can almost hear EssenceOfThought's annoying voice calling her an enabler.
 

GayDemiBoy

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I remember that Lily and Mikaila both said that Mikaila would want to keep her last name as opposed to taking on Lily's. I wonder if Lily threw a little fit and made her doormat agree to take on her supposed abusive rapist's last name too now as a form of 'reverse colonialism.'
 

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