Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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thebananaonion

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ooh well thats good. im glad this exists tbh. I wonder if that username has been linked to that old pokemon fanfic too? doubt we can prove cuz its over a decade ago and long deleted but would be a diamond to have.

(also yes lily its the same thing. considering how she wants to not be linked to the nostaligc critic brand anymore considering they forced her to post a video of a joke song she made in a way to cope with her sexual abuse/potential rape and just how horrible working under that company was for women, calling her by a name that links her to past traumas is the similar to deadnaming a trans person as it offends both parties in some way. Just admit you hate cis women already.)
 

Dahlia Hawthorne

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I’m inclined to believe the anons deadnaming Lily are from herself, or a source besides us. We know not to cow tip.

On the off chance that it is someone here or someone off site sees it though: lazy. Unoriginal. Very low effort.

You’re basically sending a package labeled “shit” to her and then being surprised when she treats it as shit.

If you use her name and pronouns, you’re more likely to get through.

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No, Lily, you haven’t changed your writing. Poke Madhouse is just as bad due to the fact that you deny the act of violation that G committed on C!Lily as a minor as being similar if not identical to rape.
 

King_Boo_Official

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I’m inclined to believe the anons deadnaming Lily are from herself, or a source besides us. We know not to cow tip.

On the off chance that it is someone here or someone off site sees it though: lazy. Unoriginal. Very low effort.

You’re basically sending a package labeled “shit” to her and then being surprised when she treats it as shit.

If you use her name and pronouns, you’re more likely to get through.

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No, Lily, you haven’t changed your writing. Poke Madhouse is just as bad due to the fact that you deny the act of violation that G committed on C!Lily as a minor as being similar if not identical to rape.
On the Poke Madhouse topic, as much shit as Lily gave Rebecca Sugar for using what could debatably be called a rape metaphor (which, in the sense that consent was given under false pretenses, I guess you could see it that way), Pearl tricking Garnet into forming Sardonyx was written better than Gardevoir performing a mating bond on Comic Lily while she was sleeping. Pearl tricking Garnet was framed more as a metaphor for any means by which a friend could betray another friend's trust (not to mention that fusion was never intended as a metaphor for sex, but a metaphor for relationships in general), but Comic Lily reacts much more viscerally to G's confession, leaving less room for plausible deniability as to what the mating bond is a stand-in for. Though Comic Lily and Garnet both came to the same conclusion of "I'll never forgive you for this, but I won't sever the relationship between us", we spent much more time with Garnet's emotional turmoil. The mating bond confession and reconciliation took place within a single conversation, and more emphasis was put on the how the perpetrator felt than how the victim felt.
 
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starborn427614

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On the Poke Madhouse topic, as much shit as Lily gave Rebecca Sugar for using what could debatably be called a rape metaphor (which, in the sense that consent was given under false pretenses, I guess you could see it that way), Pearl tricking Garnet into forming Sardonyx was written better than Gardevoir performing a mating bond on Comic Lily while she was sleeping. Pearl tricking Garnet was framed more as a metaphor for any means by which a friend could betray another friend's trust (not to mention that fusion was never intended as a metaphor for sex, but a metaphor for relationships in general), but Comic Lily reacts much more viscerally to G's confession, leaving less room for plausible deniability as to what the mating bond is a stand-in for. Though Comic Lily and Garnet both came to the same conclusion of "I'll never forgive you for this, but I won't sever the relationship between us", we spent much more time with Garnet's emotional turmoil. The mating bond confession and reconciliation took place within a single conversation, and more emphasis was put on the how the perpetrator felt than how the victim felt.
Well said. I was going to add my own two cents on the issue but on reflection it was a bit too spergy for my liking lol
 
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Lurkio

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I’m inclined to believe the anons deadnaming Lily are from herself, or a source besides us. We know not to cow tip.

On the off chance that it is someone here or someone off site sees it though: lazy. Unoriginal. Very low effort.

You’re basically sending a package labeled “shit” to her and then being surprised when she treats it as shit.

If you use her name and pronouns, you’re more likely to get through.

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No, Lily, you haven’t changed your writing. Poke Madhouse is just as bad due to the fact that you deny the act of violation that G committed on C!Lily as a minor as being similar if not identical to rape.

Good advice, but sadly even Lily isn't dumb enough to reply to a well structured criticism. Believe me, back when I first started lurking in this thread I actually did send her a solidly worded ask pointing out a hypocrisy that she made (something she slammed Sugar for in her SU video but then when back around and did in her Gardevoir comic I think, I don't remember the exact details) and she just flat out ignored it, which I honestly should have expected at the time. Getting Lily in a "gotcha" isn't as easy as it was 5+ years ago, she's been an Internet presence long enough and has made an ass of herself enough times to avoid any confrontation that might actually challenge her. It's why now she most attacks people with little to no fanbase that she can harass freely ( such Lizzy, Opal, ect.) or people so big that it's unlikely they'll waste their time with someone as insignificant as Lily because they have better things to do (like Lindsay Ellis, Sarah Z). The best you can hope for by sending Lily these asks is that they make her upset for a hour or so, and there's a good chance she'll be private about that.

Lily is a dumbass sure, but she's gotten very good at being a dumbass over the years.


Anways, as for madhouse, Lily said it's not a "will they won't they" story, but about the friendship between the two and exploring Lily's perspective and feeling, presumably about them handling the "won't they" aspect over the course of their lives. That idea...could work, but it would be very easy to much a story about such a thing very tedious unless the writer was skilled and knew what they were doing and, big surprise but, Lily is neither a skilled writer nor does she know what she's doing. Lily's mentioned before she loves her "OwO cute soft lesbians who are perfect for each other and nothing bad happens to them" romance stories, and that's fine. The problem is that stuff is boring as hell if it's the meat and potatoes of your stories, a perfect couple that nothing bad happens to can be be a welcomed break in tension in a larger story or something as a cute side thing. But it just doesn't work as the focus of a large narrative.

Now, I maybe wrong here, but it seems that all her stories are her trying to make different flavors of "perfect soft lesbian couple" work as a larger narrative and failing. Mad House attempts to be a "star crossed forbidden lovers" romance a-la Romeo and Juliet but without any consequences or tragedy from the "forbidden" aspect of their romance. TSR seems to try and splice the "Action Adventure" aspect from the numerous series Lily enjoyed as a kid so much into her idolized romance story, but that fails because Lily is just so afraid of conflict or anything bad happening to her "beloved couple" that the main characters steam-roll any potential threats that pop up. Her WoW fics seem to be about how a couple survives and overcomes one or both members being victims of abuse (this is why I think she's so adamant about comparing what Arthas did to Sylvanas being "rape"), but this fails because we never really see how the abuse affects the characters outside of them talking about how bad it was or crying into their lovers arms.

This could also be one of the reasons as to why Lily is so adamant against the idea of forgiveness and redemption, because just killing the person who wronged you and that being the end of it is a very easy (also lazy) way to wrap a story....though tbh it's probably mostly because Lily's a narcissus and petty as hell.
 

ShiftyBoi

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Rarely have I been at a loss for words.
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King_Boo_Official

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Off topic but can anybody find me the Tumblr ask where somebody was lamenting the state of LGBT+ representation in anime and Lily responds, "I don't call them Japanese cartoons for nothing"? I need it for reference. It was recent-ish, it can't be that hard to find.
 

King_Boo_Official

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What did she even mean by this? Was this just her hating Asians, or anime, or both?
Feels like both. A common trait of liberal progressives is the idea that eastern countries are significantly more culturally backwards and bigoted than the comparatively advanced West.
There's an article I'll be writing soon dissecting this mentality. If anybody wants it, message me and I'll send you the link when it's ready.
It goes as far as calling Asians "honorary whites" because fuck it. Just fuck it. Everything bad is related to whiteness or something.
 

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What did she even mean by this? Was this just her hating Asians, or anime, or both?
I think what she means is just like in western cartoons, gay rep doesn't hold up in anime. We all know her standards for gay rep and how bad they are. Her standards for anime are just as poor, basically only being Pokemon and Little Witch Academia. She also constantly uses LWA as a punching bag for gay rep in anime when that was never going to happen in the first place (it was just kind of the usual fan service for an anime).

There's a vast amount of shows she would probably like if she just swallowed her bias against foreign media. When it comes to foreign media in general she's worse than the Grammys and how they barely acknowledge anything that wasn't made in the states. At least she acknowledges anime exists and is something she could watch. She never talks about anything from China or Korea, let alone other lesser known eastern countries.

Pretty sure this specific response is just her hatred of anime though, and she would much rather scrounge at the bottom of the barrel for American cartoons than have to watch even 1 second of something that doesn't include lesbians and isn't dubbed in painfully easy to understand english.
 

King_Boo_Official

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I think what she means is just like in western cartoons, gay rep doesn't hold up in anime. We all know her standards for gay rep and how bad they are. Her standards for anime are just as poor, basically only being Pokemon and Little Witch Academia. She also constantly uses LWA as a punching bag for gay rep in anime when that was never going to happen in the first place (it was just kind of the usual fan service for an anime).

There's a vast amount of shows she would probably like if she just swallowed her bias against foreign media. When it comes to foreign media in general she's worse than the Grammys and how they barely acknowledge anything that wasn't made in the states. At least she acknowledges anime exists and is something she could watch. She never talks about anything from China or Korea, let alone other lesser known eastern countries.

Pretty sure this specific response is just her hatred of anime though, and she would much rather scrounge at the bottom of the barrel for American cartoons than have to watch even 1 second of something that doesn't include lesbians and isn't dubbed in painfully easy to understand english.
When has she used LWA as a punching bag for representation? I know she uses it as a punching bag for everything else, but not that specifically.
On that note, what people perceive as "queerbaiting" aka LGBT+ content used as fanservice is 99% of the time people being mad that their ships didn't become canon. There's also the idea that anime and manga fetishizes gays, by that they mean the anime in question's idea of representation is two attractive boys or girls making out for the audience's pleasure, which I'm fine with people making and watching as long as it isn't hurting anybody, which it doesn't inherently. I also hate to be that person, but it's better than absolutely nothing. At least the general vibe of gayness is there, and isn't that the essence of LGBT+ identity? The vibe?
 

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When has she used LWA as a punching bag for representation? I know she uses it as a punching bag for everything else, but not that specifically.
Whenever she brings up The Owl House she has a tendency to compare Amity to Diana, specifically how she was handled as a rival. Lily seems to think that Amity was Diana done correctly because they redeemed Amity so quickly and now she's on the path to being Luz's love interest. I don't have exact quotes or posts or anything but she makes the comparison a lot and it's always come across to me like she only cares about Amity because she's gay rep. Diana wasn't turned around for the explicit purpose of being made into a love interest for the protagonist and thustly she's badly written in Lily's opinion.

She I believe has also implied that Diana and Akko would've made a bad couple anyway but the fact that the writers kept writing typical anime fan-service teasing the audience with them drove her up the wall. She's also said that anyone who shipped Diana and Akko (implying the writers did as well) were idiots and that Akko and Sucy was the better ship because at least Sucy showed affection or something dumb like that. I know she specifically said this because she said it in reference to Luz x Willow which she prefers to Luz x Amity. She also made other comparisons to Willow and Sucy I believe.

You can choose whether or not to believe me at my word. I don't have screenshots or references to exact posts so I'm really just posting hear-say from what I remember, but this is what I believe to be one of her core grievances with LWA. At the very least that's how it's come across to me.

On that note, what people perceive as "queerbaiting" aka LGBT+ content used as fanservice is 99% of the time people being mad that their ships didn't become canon.
You're 100% right and I believe this is one of those cases where our very own Lily is accusing a show of bating the audience despite the show never actually doing that.

There's also the idea that anime and manga fetishizes gays, by that they mean the anime in question's idea of representation is two attractive boys or girls making out for the audience's pleasure, which I'm fine with people making and watching as long as it isn't hurting anybody, which it doesn't inherently. I also hate to be that person, but it's better than absolutely nothing. At least the general vibe of gayness is there, and isn't that the essence of LGBT+ identity? The vibe?
It fetishizes gay people when all it shows is the sexual aspect of LGBT relationships as well as only portraying straight ideals (usually something like the top is always the taller more masculine one and the bottom is the smaller more effeminate one). It's just as harmful as using a Barbie doll as an ideal for young women's health. Not to mention that that stuff (yaoi and yuri specifically) is written to sexualize and fetishize gay people. Yaoi for example is usually written by horny women for horny women and is nothing like the actual experience of a gay man in real life. But if all you've been exposed to is this fetishized version of gay people then you might feel inclined to treat real people that way as well. People like you and me and know better than to assume that all gay people are the same as in media, but not everyone is.
It's not fetishizing to write two gay characters and have them kiss on screen, but it is if you're just writing softcore porn.

"the general vibe" is also not the essence of the LGBT community, it's a civil rights movement. The "identity" is people wanting to be open about who they are and not have to hide behind a "vibe of gayness". Sure having that is technically better than nothing but it is no where near a stopping place and should be constantly expanded upon. Lily's idea of gay rep not being good enough is insanely flawed but she isn't completely wrong when she says that gay rep should continue to be built upon, especially in current day 2021.
 

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"Whistle blower would no doubt be drowned out by positive PR and forgotten amid the hype of Overwatch 2"

...I-is literally anyone on the planet "hyped" for Overwatch 2? I haven't heard jack about it since it was announced, and even the announcement was met with overwhelming "meh" by even hardcore Blizzard fan's. It's almost like OW2 just...dropped off the face of the earth the moment after it was announced. I know this is a bit off topic, it's just I doubt the hype for Overwatch 2 could drown out a rabbits fart, much less a lawsuit like this. Maybe I'm just not in the right circles and OW 2 is actually a big deal? I dunno...

Anyways, I find it interesting that THIS was the straw that broke the camels back for Lily and finally made her full on turn against Blizzard. Not the crappy Diablo announcement, or when they shut down the fanmade Classic WoW server (which at the time Blizz said they'd never make), or when they screwed over that Hearthstone player for standing alongside Hong Kong, or when they shut down Heroes of The Storm out of the clear blue despite saying they'd support it just a few weeks prior, or when they completely botched the Warcraft 3 remake, or the absolutely abysmal way they've handled the player base for all their online games, or the multiple other times they pissed on the first amendment in favor of appealing to China, or the literal dozen of other times they screwed over their employee's before this (remember the mass layoffs they had a year or two back after seeing record breaking profits?).

No no no, none of that stuff was that big of a deal. It's this thing, this right here, that finally convinced you that Blizzard is truly the scumbags everyone's been saying they were for the past 2-3 years? This lawsuit, right here?

...God, she couldn't be more obvious if she tattooed "I'm only mad because Blizz ruined my undead waifu" on her forehead. Honestly, her getting upset at Blizz now is almost insulting to the thousands of other people they screwed over before this, like they were a necessary sacrifice so she could see more of her precious Sylvanas. But now that Sylvanas's character is "ruined" in her eyes every mistep Blizzard makes is fair game as far as she's concerned. Lily could have at least acknowledged that the signs were there long before this but she turned a blind eye because she was so into WoW, but that would require a bit of humility which Lily never has...unless it involves the slightest possibility that a character in her fanfic's might be just the tiniest bit of a racial stereotype. Then she'll eat humble pie until the cow's come home.

Sorry, got off track there, anyways, Lily's sense of morality is screwed up and grass is green, just encase you didn't know yet.
 
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Son Goku Baku

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"Whistle blower would no doubt be drowned out by positive PR and forgotten amid the hype of Overwatch 2"

...I-is literally anyone on the planet "hyped" for Overwatch 2? I haven't heard jack about it since it was announced, and even the announcement was met with overwhelming "meh" by even hardcore Blizzard fan's. It's almost like OW2 just...dropped off the face of the earth the moment after it was announced. I know this is a bit off topic, it's just I doubt the hype for Overwatch 2 could drown out a rabbits fart, much less a lawsuit like this. Maybe I'm just not in the right circles and OW 2 is actually a big deal? I dunno...

Anyways, I find it interesting that THIS was the straw that broke the camels back for Lily and finally made her full on turn against Blizzard. Not the crappy Diablo announcement, or when they shut down the fanmade Classic WoW server (which at the time Blizz said they'd never make), or when they screwed over that Hearthstone player for standing alongside Hong Kong, or when they shut down Heroes of The Storm out of the clear blue despite saying they'd support it just a few weeks prior, or when they completely botched the Warcraft 3 remake, or the absolutely abysmal way they've handled the player base for all their online games, or the multiple other times they pissed on the first amendment in favor of appealing to China, or the literal dozen of other times they screwed over their employee's before this (remember the mass layoffs they had a year or two back after seeing record breaking profits?).

No no no, none of that stuff was that big of a deal. It's this thing, this right here, that finally convinced you that Blizzard is truly the scumbags everyone's been saying they were for the past 2-3 years? This lawsuit, right here?

...God, she couldn't be more obvious if she tattooed "I'm only made because Blizz ruined my undead waifu" on her forehead. Honestly, her getting upset at Blizz now is almost insulting to the thousands of other people they screwed over before this, like they were a necessary sacrifice so she could see more of her precious Sylvanas. But now that Sylvanas's character is "ruined" in her eyes every mistep Blizzard makes is far game as far as she's concerned. Lily could have at least acknowledged that the signs were there long before this but she turned a blind eye because she was so into WoW, but that would require a bit of humility which Lily never has...unless it involves the slightest possibility that a character in her fanfic's might be just the tiniest bit of a racial stereotype. Then she'll eat humble pie until the cow's come home.

Sorry, got off track there, anyways, Lily's sense of morality is screwed up and grass is green, just encase you didn't know yet.
It's highly possible that Liliana just didn't know about any of that rather that she didn't cared. We do know that she's more than glad to talk shit about Chine or eastern countries whenever she can, so if she stayed quiet about all those controversies I can only imagine is because they didn't reached her. This's the same "native" lesbian woman who didn't know what Two Spirit was despite it being a topic on LGBT discourse for a long time and the most common argument why people defend non binary genders. The same "black ally" who didn't know that there was a stereotype of angry black woman in media until she was told by someone else.

Liliana never cares about anything that doesn't immediately affect her niche interests. She likes to pretend like she's a gamer girl, but it's pretty obvious that she doesn't have any contact with the community, the news or anything at all and only enjoys a very limited amount of games that then she only plays on very specific ways. But instead of recognizing her general ignorance regarding anyhing, she still has to pretend to know better than everyone else, even if it comes out as callous and entitled from her part.
 

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