Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

FroggyMan

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From the Wiki page:
"Amy plays the one up and incorporates gestures of quasi-pornographic videos in the choreography."
"Following a humiliation at school, she sends a compromising photo of her genitals on social networks,"

This is for a character both played by and portrayed as an 11-year-old.
What the actual fuck?
This is the woman who wrote stockholm we're talking about. Of course she'd be into that shit!
 
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SubarashiiRage

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Yeah, it really happens
and it's supposed to be the comedy of the film, children doing sexual things because they are curious and naive
I’ve seen it defending as "typical little girl behavior since it is based on the author’s experiences"

and none of this impacts the story significantly even though it apparently should be the point of the film to discourage this behavior and raise society's attention
 
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SteelPlatedHeart

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Trans is a get out of jail free card (sometimes literally) to insane hyper liberals who are more interested in being on the forefront of the next big rights movement than they are actual social justice or common sense. Cause progress is just a straight line toward a perfect utopia and they want their smug bragging rights they were on the "right side of history". Hopefully once the troonery trend collapses they'll learn their lesson.

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Jerry, absolutely no one is saying this besides your dwindling orbiters. I think only managing 25 notes in 12 hours is a pretty good indication of that.
Yeeeeeeah, remember when you made a post crying about how no one was reading your self insert fanfiction and you were gonna stop writing it because of it?
 

Lurk Jurk

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Knowing Jerry's bullshit and especially how bullshit he is about being a True and Honest Native Womxn I decided to google "1937 buffalo coin dreamcatcher pendant" and wouldn't you know it:

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Mass produced design that's probably as authentic as pagan rune necklaces :story: You get this at Hot Topic or Claire's when you were in the US, Jerry? You too can own his grandfather's pendant for a whole 15 dollars.

Buffalo nickels were commissioned and minted by the US government when Native Americans had already been massively displaced and slaughtered. They were designed by a white dude. I can not imagine a more generic and culturally appropriative heirloom for his totally real Native grandfather to pass on.
 

Son Goku Baku

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Well, Lily's grandfather died recently.
Rest in Peace.

I'd make some snide comment but I don't really want to. If he really was native, or really was supportive of LGBT, it's a shame he didn't know how much his offspring would attempt to profit from both things.

I can't imagine from where did your mother had the impression that you'd hate strict people like apparently your grandpa was, Liliana "I Put Legos So My Parents Would Stomp On Them And Changed Careers Out Of Spite Because Dad Told Me To Get An Education" Orchard. Maybe shouldn't have been such a shitty impossible child and then could have a relationship with the man while he was alive.
 

ShiftyBoi

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Knowing Jerry's bullshit and especially how bullshit he is about being a True and Honest Native Womxn I decided to google "1937 buffalo coin dreamcatcher pendant" and wouldn't you know it:

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Mass produced design that's probably as authentic as pagan rune necklaces :story: You get this at Hot Topic or Claire's when you were in the US, Jerry? You too can own his grandfather's pendant for a whole 15 dollars.

Buffalo nickels were commissioned and minted by the US government when Native Americans had already been massively displaced and slaughtered. They were designed by a white dude. I can not imagine a more generic and culturally appropriative heirloom for his totally real Native grandfather to pass on.
Lurkus McJerkus you mad bastard
I can't fucking believe it, how much of a piece of shit do you have to be to lie like that.

Best case scenario this is some random thing he bought at a gas station and Lily thinks it's significant.
Worst case she bought it and lied about it
 

emmens

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chapter 30. If I were a youtuber I'd say "I can't believe we made it this far, i feel so blessed" and while I can't believe this story has lasted as long as it has. In fact there's 5 more chapters until I'm properly caught up, and no doubt by the time I reach chapter 35 there will be more, because Lily's almost karmic like means to keep my forever behind is to start pumping out more chapters when I actively write this shit. I don't feel blessed though. But I feel autistically compelled to keep doing this.

The chapter begins with Rey waking up to the sight of Aliana, asleep. The story makes comment about how this has been something Rey has seen for the better of 2 months and-
One would think she would tire of the sight. Yet in that moment, Rey couldn’t have been happier. Even as she slept, Aliana appeared more alive than she had in weeks. It was truly enthralling for the Jedi to see. Even if she couldn’t wait to see those gorgeous crimson eyes flutter open and look at her again, Rey also felt content laying there and holding Aliana for all eternity. For the first time in months, they had a truly perfect moment.
Aliana wake up. They have more romantic dialogue that reeks of Walmart bargain books.

There's a bit about Aliana complaining about her robotic prosthetic.

Rey was momentarily silenced, hoping the red lighting of the room concealed her blush. “I-I’m serious!” she huffed slightly. “You are the most gorgeous woman I’ve ever seen. You’re even prettier than Amilyn!”

Aliana raised an eyebrow, “Is Amilyn supposed to be some kind of benchmark I wasn’t told about?”

“I mean, you have looked at Amilyn right? That woman is very attractive at her age,” Rey mused. “...Come to think of it, Rose is pretty cute too. So is her sister. Oh! I don’t know if you remember Talon, but we met her while you were out and she is very pretty too. She has this-” Rey trailed off as her eyes widened a fraction. As her train of thought continued, it was as if some single piece of information in her mind suddenly clicked into place as an epiphany. “...Oh.”

“What is it, sweetie?” Aliana asked with a soft giggle. “What does she have?”

Rey’s attention drifted as she started dwelling on what she’d just realized. She’d been staring at all of those women whenever they were around. She’d been staring at a lot of women since she left Jakku. It was often what distracted her the most. She’d been checking out Paige when they met, and Rose when they were working on the Falcon. She couldn’t stop staring at Amilyn and with Talon it was even worse. Half of them were her friends and yet she was gawking at them like they were holos in the back of the cargo hold. But now that she was thinking about it, she’d never so much as cast a similar glance at Finn or Poe. And then it fell into place.

"Alie…" she began. "...I'm gay."
I just feel the need to reiterate. All of this story is built out of the reaction to the "reylo" ship. I'm going to go off course for a bit. This story exists because Lily had a visceral reaction to This moment.
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Like, I'm not going to make any kind of statement about the sexuality of a fictional character. Rey isn't Real. Ben Solo/Kylo Ren isn't real. I don't care if someone makes a fanfiction about Rey being a lesbian.

But just, you know. Perspective. Lily Orchards driving motivation to make this story, is, always has been, and always will be, to spite ReyLo Shippers, and people who like Adam Driver. And the fact that this moment exists as a canon moment, be it as some sort of moment of resolution to romantic tension or just "oh fuck we survived all that bullshit so this is the only thing I can think to do" That theres something that ReyLo shippers can point at and say "well at least we got that" and thats enough to have driven lily to write what is now 35 chapters of "I hate something so much I'm going to write a revised version of the thing I hate" is you know...Well, there's a reason we've surpassed 800 pages I guess.


There's discussion about Leia. It's boring.

There's an entire paragraph describing a make out scene that just barely becomes erotica.
Rey's eyes widened before fluttering closed. She melted into the fiery kiss. Her arms wrapped tightly around Sith's waist as she tilted her head slightly, deepening the kiss. She moaned into the other woman's mouth as their tongues swiped and swirled around each other. Rey felt heat flare up in her cheeks as well as her belly. Aliana's kisses were, indeed, enthralling. She giggled as Aliana’s nails dug into the back of her neck, the little moans and squeaks she made sending shivers down Rey’s spine.
The stupid pet porg shows up. I hate porgs.

There's more romantic exchange of dialogue, this time ribbing Rey about how she sounded like she was proposing to Aliana for a moment.

There's dialogue about why Rey has decided to stop wearing her hair up.

Eventually the scene ends, I almost for a moment thought that would be the chapter

Rey and Aliana go to a meeting with Leia, Rose, Finn, poe. you know. The usual.

we get what I assume is confirmation of FinnPoe.
“Just because you have nobody in your life doesn’t mean everyone else is as miserable as you,” Rose snickered.

Poe turned to Finn, “Are you miserable, Nobody?”

Finn shrugged with an easy smile. "I can't complain, handsome."

"Oh! Called it!" Aliana grinned pointing at Finn and Poe.
There was no build up to this, not even a hint of any kind of romantic tension that lead up to this moment. because Lily Orchard refuses to let the camera pull away from her two pet characters because...
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"I'll do what Disney was too cowardly too do and make FinnPoe a thing in my story. BUT I WILL DO NONE OF THE WORK OTHER THAN HAVE THEM BE FLIRTY AND HAVE ANOTHER CHARACTER GO "I KNEW IT!" is the kind of lazy self congratulatory stuff to expect. Like, I don't think the story has made an attempt to show off Finn and Poe even privately interacting since chapter 17.

This criticism of course can be applied to the fact that the story confirmed Finn's been trained as a jedi but Lily's made no attempt to show us. The only thing that matters is Rey and Aliana.

Anyway, Leia anounced that The resistance is getting a supply drop from the Republic with thanks to Rey convincing the senate like she did last chapter.

Leia then says they need to nominate new high generals because a lot of them died at the end of episode 8.

Finn nominates Aliana and Rey

Leia argues against this. her reaction gets tacked with "anti-sith bias"

Aliana then nominates Rose Tico to position of Admiralship.

There is no opposal to the nomination. Rose is now an admiral for the resistance.


The scene ends with Leia pettily arguing with Rey and Aliana about Aliana using a shitty nickname for rey and how it's unprofessional and I am so tired.

The next scene begins with Leia pulling Aliana aside for a talk.

"Yes," Leia nodded, opting to stand in front of Aliana rather than sit beside her. "I understand that you two are happy being together again, and I've accepted you as one of us, but I feel as though your encouragement of her worst habits is getting out of hand."

“What habits am I encouraging?” Aliana asked, raising an eyebrow. “Petty disobedience and Romantic pick up lines? Lightsaber training which is necessary?”

"Regarding you as her master," Leia began. "A horrible habit to have. Even if you both claim it's a joke, it's only so many times you can say it before it becomes unironic. There's also the matter of her trusting your judgement above everyone else's, perhaps even her own. It explains her swinging back and forth between ruthless and sadistic."

“Okay first of all, I AM the one who’s training her. Technically speaking, that does make me her Master,” Aliana explained. “As for my judgment, my judgment hasn’t steered her wrong yet. Is it any surprise that she trusts my judgment when my judgment has caused her to flourish?”

"A Jedi trained by a Sith does not a good Jedi make," Leia countered. "At some point, people are going to see learning and practicing Sith teachings and recognize her title of Jedi as a lie. And with that dissonance comes the risk of the Republic turning their attention to the both of you once the First Order is dealt with. If you didn't so readily flaunt how wrapped around your finger Rey is, you wouldn't have this problem."
Leia is concerned about the fact that Rey the publicly known Jedi is taking lessons from The publicly known Sith. And is concerned that it, isn't a good look.

Aliana proceeds to pull the defense of "well I think it says more about the senates beliefs than it does me and rey if she thinks I'm teaching her the sith ways"

"Except it's not their respect or lack thereof you need to worry about. It's the possibility that you will be labeled as enemies to the core worlds," Leia stressed. "Both you and Rey have the potential to do a lot of good for the galaxy even after the war, but you can't do that with another galactic power breathing down your neck. You'll be back to running and surviving only now you'll be dragging Rey along with you. You both could resort to doing shady jobs in the criminal underworld just to get by. She doesn't deserve that and neither should you. I know it's not fair, but if you two don't want to be on the run your entire lives, you have to know when enough is enough."

“Leia, what am I supposed to do? The Republic hates me because I’m Sith.” Aliana explained. “How am I supposed to do anything about that? I AM Sith. I will always be Sith. If the Republic really is that paranoid, then both I and Rey are doomed to that kind of life no matter what I do. You’re talking to the wrong person about this. What am I supposed to do about this? Tell me, Leia. How do I make the Republic not hate me anymore?”

"You can't," Leia said plainly. "That much is obvious. But it's not too late for Rey. If the Republic sees that you two are equals in balance, powerful light to contend powerful darkness, then they may very well leave you alone. And I'm talking to you because I know for a fact Rey wouldn't listen to me about this. But she'll listen to you. You don't even have to say 'Hey Rey. Practice the light side or else the Republic will kill us both.' Just nudge her in the right direction. Encourage her to read more Jedi holocrons. Practice reigning in her temper. That sort of thing. If the people see something other than a Sith and her apprentice, they're less like to be afraid and do something stupid."

“Leia don’t you hear yourself? You’re still trying to appease the Republic and you’re acting as if fraternizing with a Sith isn’t already a capital crime. The only way I could ensure the Republic doesn’t turn on Rey is to break her heart and leave her forever,” Aliana glared down at the aging Jedi. She was so tired of having this conversation with Jedi.
Leia tries desperately to try and keep herself calm, when I wish she'd just shoot Aliana. I keep repeating the point in every one of their interactions but it's fucking wild how Lily keeps writing Leia as in the wrong when all of Leia's concerns and requests aren't unreasonable at all.

Leia expresses that she's not trying to make it a thing about Rey, but a concern that the both of them will become wanted enemies when the war ends. and proposes that with time, perhaps yes the senate and the republic will be less distrustful of sith. The Sith that have never, ever at any point in canon not been shown to be authoritarian power hungry monsters who let their emotions control them to the point the "sith race" has driven itself to extinction and civil war several hundred times because they can't even co-exist with themselves.

Aliana proceeds to remind Leia about how even Luke saw fit to attack a child and her mother with out provocation, the Sith and her child apprentice. Whom Luke had zero experience with any sith that was not in fact plotting to take the empire back.

Aliana then says
I’m done giving the Republic time. They’ve had enough time. I won’t start a war with the Republic. But if after the First Order is destroyed they see fit to come after me and Rey, I will bring the full wrath of the Sith Empire down onto their backs and turn their own fear and arrogance into a nightmare from which they will never wake!”
Leia, calls her bluff and says "you're fucking lying, this ship and that protocol droid are literally all you own, you were a fucking bounty hunter working for a Hutt before you even got involved with the rebellion"

And then Aliana pushes the "mary sue controls the plot" button and reveals a thing I made a quote about months ago.

Aliana reveals she. a singular individual sith lord over the course of a decade purposefully did a shitty job serving Nima the Hutt, and went out of her way to "disrupt the hutts" giving aid to those who the Republic "forgot about" and amassed loyalty to a decades worth of followers. and on cue a cobbled together fleet warps in out of hyperspace.

And leia straight up says "Did you seriously have a fleet waiting in hyperspace for you to deploy just so you could win an argument?"

Aliana says yes, but in a pretentious "well the we needed ships the republic wasn't going to give us."

Aliana then goes "I almost died at the end of episode 8, and you don't deserve the help these ships will give the resistance, but I care more about taking out the First Order than I do about fucking you over, so sit down, shut the fuck up, and if Rey becomes a sith lord than you and the republic are going to have to suck it up and deal with it. And if we end up having a discussion like this again I'm taking my Girlfriend and all my friends home"

And leia just fucking takes it.

Scene ends.

The next scene is Aliana, Rey and Talon talking. There's art. if you wanna see it go look at the fucking chapter yourselves. I do not give a shit about Mikaila's art.

Rey praises Aliana, Aliana tries to feign being humble.

And the chapter fucking ends.
I banged this out in an hour and 15 minutes out of 10.
 

Son Goku Baku

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chapter 30. If I were a youtuber I'd say "I can't believe we made it this far, i feel so blessed" and while I can't believe this story has lasted as long as it has. In fact there's 5 more chapters until I'm properly caught up, and no doubt by the time I reach chapter 35 there will be more, because Lily's almost karmic like means to keep my forever behind is to start pumping out more chapters when I actively write this shit. I don't feel blessed though. But I feel autistically compelled to keep doing this.

The chapter begins with Rey waking up to the sight of Aliana, asleep. The story makes comment about how this has been something Rey has seen for the better of 2 months and-


Aliana wake up. They have more romantic dialogue that reeks of Walmart bargain books.

There's a bit about Aliana complaining about her robotic prosthetic.



I just feel the need to reiterate. All of this story is built out of the reaction to the "reylo" ship. I'm going to go off course for a bit. This story exists because Lily had a visceral reaction to This moment.
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Like, I'm not going to make any kind of statement about the sexuality of a fictional character. Rey isn't Real. Ben Solo/Kylo Ren isn't real. I don't care if someone makes a fanfiction about Rey being a lesbian.

But just, you know. Perspective. Lily Orchards driving motivation to make this story, is, always has been, and always will be, to spite ReyLo Shippers, and people who like Adam Driver. And the fact that this moment exists as a canon moment, be it as some sort of moment of resolution to romantic tension or just "oh fuck we survived all that bullshit so this is the only thing I can think to do" That theres something that ReyLo shippers can point at and say "well at least we got that" and thats enough to have driven lily to write what is now 35 chapters of "I hate something so much I'm going to write a revised version of the thing I hate" is you know...Well, there's a reason we've surpassed 800 pages I guess.


There's discussion about Leia. It's boring.

There's an entire paragraph describing a make out scene that just barely becomes erotica.


The stupid pet porg shows up. I hate porgs.

There's more romantic exchange of dialogue, this time ribbing Rey about how she sounded like she was proposing to Aliana for a moment.

There's dialogue about why Rey has decided to stop wearing her hair up.

Eventually the scene ends, I almost for a moment thought that would be the chapter

Rey and Aliana go to a meeting with Leia, Rose, Finn, poe. you know. The usual.

we get what I assume is confirmation of FinnPoe.

There was no build up to this, not even a hint of any kind of romantic tension that lead up to this moment. because Lily Orchard refuses to let the camera pull away from her two pet characters because...
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"I'll do what Disney was too cowardly too do and make FinnPoe a thing in my story. BUT I WILL DO NONE OF THE WORK OTHER THAN HAVE THEM BE FLIRTY AND HAVE ANOTHER CHARACTER GO "I KNEW IT!" is the kind of lazy self congratulatory stuff to expect. Like, I don't think the story has made an attempt to show off Finn and Poe even privately interacting since chapter 17.

This criticism of course can be applied to the fact that the story confirmed Finn's been trained as a jedi but Lily's made no attempt to show us. The only thing that matters is Rey and Aliana.

Anyway, Leia anounced that The resistance is getting a supply drop from the Republic with thanks to Rey convincing the senate like she did last chapter.

Leia then says they need to nominate new high generals because a lot of them died at the end of episode 8.

Finn nominates Aliana and Rey

Leia argues against this. her reaction gets tacked with "anti-sith bias"

Aliana then nominates Rose Tico to position of Admiralship.

There is no opposal to the nomination. Rose is now an admiral for the resistance.


The scene ends with Leia pettily arguing with Rey and Aliana about Aliana using a shitty nickname for rey and how it's unprofessional and I am so tired.

The next scene begins with Leia pulling Aliana aside for a talk.



Leia is concerned about the fact that Rey the publicly known Jedi is taking lessons from The publicly known Sith. And is concerned that it, isn't a good look.

Aliana proceeds to pull the defense of "well I think it says more about the senates beliefs than it does me and rey if she thinks I'm teaching her the sith ways"



Leia tries desperately to try and keep herself calm, when I wish she'd just shoot Aliana. I keep repeating the point in every one of their interactions but it's fucking wild how Lily keeps writing Leia as in the wrong when all of Leia's concerns and requests aren't unreasonable at all.

Leia expresses that she's not trying to make it a thing about Rey, but a concern that the both of them will become wanted enemies when the war ends. and proposes that with time, perhaps yes the senate and the republic will be less distrustful of sith. The Sith that have never, ever at any point in canon not been shown to be authoritarian power hungry monsters who let their emotions control them to the point the "sith race" has driven itself to extinction and civil war several hundred times because they can't even co-exist with themselves.

Aliana proceeds to remind Leia about how even Luke saw fit to attack a child and her mother with out provocation, the Sith and her child apprentice. Whom Luke had zero experience with any sith that was not in fact plotting to take the empire back.

Aliana then says


Leia, calls her bluff and says "you're fucking lying, this ship and that protocol droid are literally all you own, you were a fucking bounty hunter working for a Hutt before you even got involved with the rebellion"

And then Aliana pushes the "mary sue controls the plot" button and reveals a thing I made a quote about months ago.

Aliana reveals she. a singular individual sith lord over the course of a decade purposefully did a shitty job serving Nima the Hutt, and went out of her way to "disrupt the hutts" giving aid to those who the Republic "forgot about" and amassed loyalty to a decades worth of followers. and on cue a cobbled together fleet warps in out of hyperspace.

And leia straight up says "Did you seriously have a fleet waiting in hyperspace for you to deploy just so you could win an argument?"

Aliana says yes, but in a pretentious "well the we needed ships the republic wasn't going to give us."

Aliana then goes "I almost died at the end of episode 8, and you don't deserve the help these ships will give the resistance, but I care more about taking out the First Order than I do about fucking you over, so sit down, shut the fuck up, and if Rey becomes a sith lord than you and the republic are going to have to suck it up and deal with it. And if we end up having a discussion like this again I'm taking my Girlfriend and all my friends home"

And leia just fucking takes it.

Scene ends.

The next scene is Aliana, Rey and Talon talking. There's art. if you wanna see it go look at the fucking chapter yourselves. I do not give a shit about Mikaila's art.

Rey praises Aliana, Aliana tries to feign being humble.

And the chapter fucking ends.
I banged this out in an hour and 15 minutes out of 10.
I feel like almost all chapters could be reduced to:

-Rey and Lalaina do romantic shit.

-Lalaina and/or Rey shit on Leia and/or Kylo Ren.

-No one else matters.

And nothing of value would be lost.

My condolencies, you brave one. Just thinking about it it's enough to make me want to sleep.
 

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From the Wiki page:
"Amy plays the one up and incorporates gestures of quasi-pornographic videos in the choreography."
"Following a humiliation at school, she sends a compromising photo of her genitals on social networks,"

This is for a character both played by and portrayed as an 11-year-old.
What the actual fuck?
Im a bit late but i watched a video about that film just to see how bad it was and he doesnt sugarcoat anything.. Its as bad as people say it is.
Granted i skipled through most of the video with how vile the movie clips are but most of the video was just clips of these tween kids just just 'popping their asses' and seductivly rubbing themselves for the camers

Ffs theres even a scene where two security men find them tresspassing (im lead to believe) and gues how they escaped... By twerking their thing and its heavily implied one of the guards is a pedophile.

Heres the vid in question


And all lily has to say on it it 'i dont care stop being mean to a black woman!! 11!111!

Black women can make fucked up media that panders to pedophiles also.

Do you know how this is a bad film? Many on twitter are saying that this is a good film on child sexual exploitation yet these people have been outed as pedos in the past or are open about beinng 'MAPs' so no, either this black woman is lying and made pedo pandering becquse that was her intent, or shes that hwt toned death and needs to be shouted at for how fucked this film is.
 

starborn427614

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Look guys, Lilly just wants you to accept that the Nazi's Sith aren't so bad! We should stop being so biased against the order of Force Users who, even at their best, are historically always tyrannical dictators and psychopaths! I can't wait for Lilly to drag in Kreia's force ghost into the story just so she can miss the point even more...
Also Lily:
Rebecca Sugar is a nazi sympathiser for removing the fascists in her story from power, making them fix the mistakes they made (and not killing them so they can do this).

Logic!
 

Ben Laden

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God, this fic is such a slog...every chapter is basically the same thing and she's progressing whatever plot there is at a snail's pace because she'd much rather write Rey and Aliana smut.

But hey, I do like she made a nod to FinnPoe. Disney would be proud of her doing the absolute, bare minimum of having the gays quietly say "by the way, we're gay' with no build up to it and for it to never be mentioned again because literally every character who isn't her OC or the """protagonist""" bores the shit out of her.
 
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Lurk Jurk

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Best case scenario this is some random thing he bought at a gas station and Lily thinks it's significant.
Worst case she bought it and lied about it
Curosry wikipedia search confirms dream catchers aren't even a Cherokee thing and they didn't become a popular symbol of Native Americans in general until the 1970's. It's hard to pinpoint manufacturers on these things (they could be made in China for all I know) but they seem to be primarily sold by www.americancointreasures.com, which is owned by UPM Global LLC, which has only existed since 2007. This information literally took me 5 minutes to find out lol.

So I could accept that maybe Jerry's grandpa was one of those white dudes who goes on about how their family totally has Cherokee blood (cause it's always the Cherokee) and would buy Injun themed trinkets. Why he would leave a cheaply made pendant with an old coin in it to Jerry specifically is another question. Unless Jerry thinks "here your grandpa had this in his house you'll probably like it" is the same as someone leaving you something in a will.

Or, you know, Jerry bought it at Spencer's and is lying.
 

1911JD

Still tired of this shit but slightly less so
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Knowing Jerry's bullshit and especially how bullshit he is about being a True and Honest Native Womxn I decided to google "1937 buffalo coin dreamcatcher pendant" and wouldn't you know it:

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Mass produced design that's probably as authentic as pagan rune necklaces :story: You get this at Hot Topic or Claire's when you were in the US, Jerry? You too can own his grandfather's pendant for a whole 15 dollars.

Buffalo nickels were commissioned and minted by the US government when Native Americans had already been massively displaced and slaughtered. They were designed by a white dude. I can not imagine a more generic and culturally appropriative heirloom for his totally real Native grandfather to pass on.
I mean his grandfather DID die and his mother is racially native. She posts about it all the time on her Facebook and I believe Jerry's grandfather has worn some kind of Native designation. Jerry may be white as hell but his mother isn't.

It's not really easy to gauge the value or even the legitimacy of the pendant through one of Jerry's signature dimly lit images. I don't think Googling what it looks like necessarily proves that it's a fake, I think you're just railing on Jerry for the sake of railing on him.

With all of that said, rest in peace, Henry.
 

ShiftyBoi

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I mean his grandfather DID die and his mother is racially native. She posts about it all the time on her Facebook and I believe Jerry's grandfather has worn some kind of Native designation. Jerry may be white as hell but his mother isn't.

It's not really easy to gauge the value or even the legitimacy of the pendant through one of Jerry's signature dimly lit images. I don't think Googling what it looks like necessarily proves that it's a fake, I think you're just railing on Jerry for the sake of railing on him.

With all of that said, rest in peace, Henry.
Well that's certainly a more lax take on it than we had.
To Lily's credit she is listed in the obituary. So is someone else named Lily so I don't know why he didn't know who she was.

Also to Lily's credit the coin is from 1937
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On the indian's collar you can find the year it was minted. 1937.
It's possible that the dream catcher stuff was added after the fact to make it more interesting, since it looks like every other dream catcher pendant on the internet.
 
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Son Goku Baku

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necessarily proves that it's a fake
Are they really a fake when the designed by a white dude and mass produced are actually the originals? Why would actual Native Americans take on the design of someone outside themselves? Why would a Cherokee/Sauk/Fox "proud of his heritage" would leave a cheap pendant with no relation to any actual tribe and that anyone could get at Hot Topic to his grandchildren?

Either we believe that Liliana's grandpa was a hack just like her that filled his house with whatever crap looked vaguely natve american to show how native he was, the pendant just one example of it, or we believe Liliana made up that whole "the only one that accepted me" story along with him leaving her the pendant just to gain pitty points since lying about being homeless and a prostitute didn't stick for long.

No matter how you look at it, something doesn't add up.
 
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