Jesse Cardone / Jessecar / Jessecar96 and Joshua Coffey / Geel / Geel9 - "Child porn for 2 refined": Team Fortress 2 'item economy' figureheads solicit naked pictures from children.

(The video below does a good job of explaining the entire situation. If you would prefer to listen/watch something for twenty minutes rather than read a thread, there you go. I am in no way affiliated with the original uploader, "killjester".)

(Download here)

To summarize: numerous individuals (not affiliated with Valve) who organize Team Fortress 2's item economy (which involves a lot of real world monetary transactions and hoarding real world identification) have been accused of using their influence in the community to solicit naked selfies from underage users. Their response to these accusations has been the usual DFE, which is why I'm attempting to make this thread to archive what's been found so far.

TF NETWORK
Scrap.TF is one of many websites connected to what is formally known as the "TF Network", a third party resource useful for trading in-game items across various Valve games (but, as the name implies, specifically caters to Team Fortress 2.) Sibling websites include Marketplace.TF, where you may buy or sell items for potentially thousands of real world dollars, and Backpack.TF, which meticulously traces inter-user item trades spanning many years and votes on the "official" price of various Team Fortress 2 items. (To put things in better perspective, the "keys" they refer to in pricing typically cost $2.50 USD each.)

If you think this is nothing more than a collection of dills taking a video game's item trading system too seriously, you would be correct. However, real-world criminal organizations have used Team Fortress 2 item trading to launder money, as well as other Valve titles, so the absurdity is not exclusive to participants in the TF Network. There have been increasingly-large sums of real world cash floating around the TF Network for over a decade.

JESSE CARDONE
Jesse Cardone, or Jessecar, is a software engineer and staff moderator on virtually all TF Network endeavors. Most of these sites go so far as to call him a co-founder, which as you can imagine provides a significant amount of clout across the sites' 500,000+ users. He is also, as his avatars across all platforms suggest, a brony.

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It's difficult to link/archive direct evidence of what he's been accused of, as the primary whistleblower for this debacle (LemonSavior/Kers_Pertt) was banned from Twitter and it's technically child porn, but the thoroughly-sanitized Twitter thread may be viewed here. Additionally, much of the evidence can be seen scattered throughout the video above. LemonSavior's own words on the topic may be read here.

Crimes that Jesse has been accused of include:
  • Convincing a 14-year old user to stuff an object up his ass and write "Jesse's Footstool" on his body (and then insisting it's not a big deal) in exchange for an exclusive on-site "Pony Plus" badge, which the Scrap.TF staff (who are also implicated in all this abuse) referred to as "the tramp stamp", suggesting all users who own it are on-site underage prostitutes. Jesse was twenty-four years old at the time.
  • Formulating "other ways" to obtain the above badge, according to a Scrap.TF Discord admistrator, all of which relate to photographs and abuse of minors. (Allegedly, users over the age of 18 were denied these options.)
  • Silencing all inquiry into this alleged abuse, not just on Discord but the many TF Network community websites he co-owns. (LemonSavior's Twitter was suspended in under 24 hours, for example, suggesting Jesse made use of individuals loyal to him, i.e. brigading.)
  • Accusing whistleblowers of being pedophiles themselves, insisting they were stalking Jesse's furry accomplice known as "Lilith", and then simply defaulting to labeling them homophobes.
  • Assisting the mentioned "Lilith" in soliciting underage users in private chats, who is described as 'overly-sexual.'
  • Spying on "rival Discord channels" for any users trying to spread the word on Jesse, which he would then use to employ bans across the entire TF Network (thus severely cutting off users from trading their items or participating in the economy.) Marketplace.TF also collects personal information such as home addresses, as mentioned, so it's not unlikely Jesse pried into that as well.
  • Being a FUCKING JANNY and making the word 'footrest' an instant, permanent ban on Scrap.TF (and unofficially-associated websites, such as Knockout forums.)
Jesse's response to the accusations insists he is being stalked and falsely-accused by individuals with a grudge. This half-assed testimony was delivered in the form of a raffle for an in-game item worth less than 1 cent, on his own website, where he may safely delete or alter it at his leisure.

JOSHUA COFFEY ("GEEL")
Enter Geel9, the primary owner and face of TF Network's many ventures. He is probably the single most well-known individual in the Team Fortress 2 item trading scene because he operates every widely-used venue.

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A vocal 'progressive' with a penchant for bitching about politics on Reddit, running perpetual damage control on Knockout (a Resetera-style reboot of Facepunch, with all the negative connotations that implies), and doing a poor job of running his website, Joshua Coffey co-operates the TF Network's many websites whenever he isn't being an abrasive, unlikable sped on social media (while utilizing his clout/money in the stylings of a virtual robber baron.)

Crimes Joshua have been accused of include:
  • Orchestrating a 'honey trap', wherein users on 4chan's /vg/ board (who like Team Fortress 2, but dislike furries, item traders, pedophiles and jannies) were encouraged to join a raffle hosted by Geel himself. Suspecting that the users of /vg/ played a substantial part in ongoing accusations against Jesse, Geel utilized this raffle to determine what users on Scrap.TF were 'from 4chan', and then immediately issued a permanent suspension to every single one. This is notable because the raffle included expensive items ordinary Scrap.TF users would want to win, so a considerable number of ordinary users not from 4chan were also banned.
  • Meddling in the prices of various Team Fortress 2 items (which again, can cost several thousand dollars), collaborating with select users to enforce said prices, then casually doling out bans to anyone who sells items for lower than his website's "advice."
  • Enabling Jesse's shenanigans across all platforms. Covering up for Jesse, as well as whatever other implicated staff members he employs.
As of yet Geel has not issued any form of response to these accusations (other than systematically banning anyone who tries to discuss them on his owned platforms.)
 

D.Va

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a bunch of these claims really need verification. Luna was 14 when these photos were taken? do you have proof of date of birth? how wide is the age gap? you need to actually provide this information if you want to prove noncery
 

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It's always the people named "Josh" that are degenerates...

EDIT: Unrelated to the drama, but Geel decided to ban anyone associated with the 3rd party site tacobot.tf for "toxicity", even though it had absolutely nothing to do with trading,

Those tacobot people were far bigger spergs than this guy is. They were a bunch of autistics with god complexes over wasting thousands of dollars in a video game. harold11 in the caps was known to start screaming into the mic when people played in ways he didn't approve of.
If they hadnt nuked their group after the community turned on them they would be lolcows themselves. I agree 100% with them all being told to eat shit by the community at large.
 

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Those tacobot people were far bigger spergs than this guy is. They were a bunch of autistics with god complexes over wasting thousands of dollars in a video game. harold11 in the caps was known to start screaming into the mic when people played in ways he didn't approve of.
If they hadnt nuked their group after the community turned on them they would be lolcows themselves. I agree 100% with them all being told to eat shit by the community at large.
They sound like true gamers, dude.
 

D.Va

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Those tacobot people were far bigger spergs than this guy is. They were a bunch of autistics with god complexes over wasting thousands of dollars in a video game. harold11 in the caps was known to start screaming into the mic when people played in ways he didn't approve of.
If they hadnt nuked their group after the community turned on them they would be lolcows themselves. I agree 100% with them all being told to eat shit by the community at large.

I forgot about this. IIRC tacobot was a blacklist of people who didn't play by an approved meta for the MvM gamemode. If you got placed on the list then you'd be kicked by any of the list's power users and there was basically no recourse. A page on the archives shows how it used to look, where the ban reasons were generally a-loggy and went as far as accusations of child molestation.

They've not actually nuked their group either, they appear to be rebooting it. I'm wondering if OP has anything to do with these guys given how recent this drama was
 

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  • Instead of making people download the video, you could just directly upload it into the OP and remove the hyperlink since the original uploader has now taken it down.
  • Same with the images you linked from other sites. Don't know why you're linking to images since image links can (and often do) get removed.
  • SEVERAL OF THE LINKS YOU POSTED DO NOT HAVE ARCHIVES. And since now a lot of the shit you posted is fucking gone, you can't fix that.
  • Instead of making people dig through links to read something on other sites, screenshot the highlights, upload it into the OP, and leave an archive to circle back to under it in case people really feel compelled to dig further
  • I see a lot of accusations but no solid proof. It's not my job to go find it. It's YOUR job to present it. Just saying " this is the accusation " and not even including a source or why those accusations might be true is fucking dumb. Some people are stupid enough to spread rumors without evidence but no one here is going to be interested unless you have something to back it up. Obviously don't fucking post CP on it but if you can find evidence of him trying to shut down discussions on Discord like you said + statements from mods / admins / minors, that also would back it up.
  • Since this isn't limited to one person and corruption on this level tends to trickle down, it'll probably be more accurate in the long run to label this as a Community Watch thread but that's more of a wait-and-see thing.

This would be a good OP if you knew what you were doing.

Edit: Of course OP is a newfag.
> Joined Saturday
> One and only post
> Literally logged off as soon as he posted

Methinks someone will have to rewrite this OP because I fucking doubt this dumbass is coming back. This isn't my cup of tea though as I'm not really familiar with this community so someone else is going to need to volunteer on this one. Give it a week and see if he comes back

Here is the statement provided by the guy who made the video that no longer exists in the OP.
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Archive

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BatterylessWatch

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A figurehead of the TF2 community turning out to be a brony pedophile that harvests people's data? Unsurprising, to say the least.
Well, anyone who spends enough time on the tf2 trading scene particularly knows that most of the staff on scrap.tf are usually either bronies, degenerates or furries, and particularly, i honestly think it took too long for dirt to surface on geel.

Either way, no point in bashing OP any further, maybe he had an ulterior motive to post this thread, and at any rate, can only just hope for improvements on the archival and formatting, this could have potential.

Unrelated to the drama, but Geel decided to ban anyone associated with the 3rd party site tacobot.tf for "toxicity", even though it had absolutely nothing to do with trading,

The whole tacobot.tf drama was a goldmine honestly, the group at large is a den of spergs, i dont disagree with their decision to ban them after threatening to ruin the stability of an already dying gamemode with retrybot, whose existence was hazy at best.

where the ban reasons were generally a-loggy and went as far as accusations of child molestation.

On the child molestation thing, i assume you mostly mean REMP OWNER, who is already a well known case in the MvM community.
 

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I find it funny that tacobot culture is using 'ape' as an insult when they can't figure out simple fucking algebra
 

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I'm all for this OP carrying on as a community watch thread but I don't see the author returning anytime soon. Anyone interested in volunteering their time on this to rewrite? Preferably someone familiar with the subject matter? I literally don't know shit about TF2 other than the Free Hats meme.
 

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I'm all for this OP carrying on as a community watch thread but I don't see the author returning anytime soon. Anyone interested in volunteering their time on this to rewrite? Preferably someone familiar with the subject matter? I literally don't know shit about TF2 other than the Free Hats meme.

While i'd be interested in helping for such an endeavor, i dont have as much time for re-researching about the community as i'd like to, because im sure theres a lot more that can be dug up on these individuals.

What i can contribute is some more evidence of this whole business in form of a video/document posted recently by a guy called WAMO, which in my opinion should be a decent substitute for the original killjester video.


I do have an archive of the video of course, but im currently having difficulties uploading it to the site due to my slow upload speeds. Ill edit the post later if i can get it to work.

I also took the liberty to edit the document and replace all links that could be taken down for archive links. Hopefully this will be of use to whoever decides to take on rewriting the OP.
 

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