Jessica Yaniv: True & Honest Woman, Autogynephile, or Other? - Discuss JY's transness here

[Ronnie Rocket]

A lot of threads tend to devolve into a discussion about how Yaniv is simply an AGP or a man in a dress.

Then threads derail further into how his behavior differs from "actual" trans women and how "actual" trans women behave in relation to natal women.

So we're just going to keep it all here, because while the discussion is definitely interesting and deserves to happen, it doesn't need to happen in every thread when JY inevitably whips out a tampon to prove he's a lady.

 

[Gumby]

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I can name 5 bat shit insane trannies for every functional one I know of, and even the normal-ish ones I know personally are still deeply neurotic/depressed.

It's really difficult to not see this trend.

There used to be mainly a small group of transSEXuals, and they mostly kept to themselves. They wanted surgery and worked to fit in. Now there are transGENDERS, with self-ID we have men w/beards and full male genitalia wearing blue jeans insisting they belong in women's spaces. It's generally the transGENDERs that get in your face and push the boundaries.

There have, for a long time, been documented two types of trans*. The smaller group, the transsexuals, who have dysphoria & have genital surgery. They are gay (men in dresses who like men). The larger group, the transGENDERs, some of them take estrogen to get breasts, but they don't want genital surgery. They are straight men attracted to women. They are autogynephiles, a sexual fetish where they get turned on by pretending to be women and getting women to accept them (hence the push for lesbians to have sex w/their "female penis" instead of seeking straight women). Many of the autogynephiles have other sexual fetishes as well, and one of the common ones is a menstruation fetish, like JY.

*A new type has emerged, ROGD (Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria), it happens to mostly girls around puberty (usually it's more men than women). Most of these kids would accept their actual sex if let alone, maybe some counseling. There are many who are autistic, many with other mental illness, and some would realize when older that they are lesbians. Many feel that girls are horrified and overwhelmed with the role they are supposed to inhabit as a woman, boys are porn soaked and pushing them into painful acts and teaching them that it's all about the guy's pleasure, they hear the messages that women are second class, etc. And of course they hear messages they are supposed to be ultra feminine, and if they aren't, transpeople tell them - well, you must really be a trans, a man in a woman's body.

But the big push is for them to get on the trans train younger and younger (and remember, up to 90% would desist if left alone). The people pushing for this are the autogynephiles, even though their life histories are extremely different. But they want these kids on puberty blockers if a girl plays with a truck - because then they can say "see, we were born this way", and hide the shame of their autogynephilia.

 

[Munchma Quchi]

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There used to be mainly a small group of transSEXuals, and they mostly kept to themselves. They wanted surgery and worked to fit in. Now there are transGENDERS, with self-ID we have men w/beards and full male genitalia wearing blue jeans insisting they belong in women's spaces. It's generally the transGENDERs that get in your face and push the boundaries.

There have, for a long time, been documented two types of trans*. The smaller group, the transsexuals, who have dysphoria & have genital surgery. They are gay (men in dresses who like men). The larger group, the transGENDERs, some of them take estrogen to get breasts, but they don't want genital surgery. They are straight men attracted to women. They are autogynephiles, a sexual fetish where they get turned on by pretending to be women and getting women to accept them (hence the push for lesbians to have sex w/their "female penis" instead of seeking straight women). Many of the autogynephiles have other sexual fetishes as well, and one of the common ones is a menstruation fetish, like JY.

*A new type has emerged, ROGD (Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria), it happens to mostly girls around puberty (usually it's more men than women). Most of these kids would accept their actual sex if let alone, maybe some counseling. There are many who are autistic, many with other mental illness, and some would realize when older that they are lesbians. Many feel that girls are horrified and overwhelmed with the role they are supposed to inhabit as a woman, boys are porn soaked and pushing them into painful acts and teaching them that it's all about the guy's pleasure, they hear the messages that women are second class, etc. And of course they hear messages they are supposed to be ultra feminine, and if they aren't, transpeople tell them - well, you must really be a trans, a man in a woman's body.

But the big push is for them to get on the trans train younger and younger (and remember, up to 90% would desist if left alone). The people pushing for this are the autogynephiles, even though their life histories are extremely different. But they want these kids on puberty blockers if a girl plays with a truck - because then they can say "see, we were born this way", and hide the shame of their autogynephilia.View attachment 883778View attachment 883776View attachment 883774

1. While I don't disagree with you, citing YouTube videos and Wikipedia articles as sources is not a good look.

2. I used to know a "lesbian in a man's body." Literal big bearded guy using a male name and male pronoun, dressed and acted masculine, etc, but he was hung up on this "lesbian in a man's body" idea. I've heard it before from straight guys as a joke, but this particular guy was actually showing up to lesbian dances and lesbian support groups.

 

[Salade Nicoise]

1. While I don't disagree with you, citing YouTube videos and Wikipedia articles as sources is not a good look.

2. I used to know a "lesbian in a man's body." Literal big bearded guy using a male name and male pronoun, dressed and acted masculine, etc, but he was hung up on this "lesbian in a man's body" idea. I've heard it before from straight guys as a joke, but this particular guy was actually showing up to lesbian dances and lesbian support groups.

"Lesbian-identified male" is a thing. And it's fucking dumb.

 

[dirt lamb]

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Edit: sorry if the formatting is off, I am on mobile. Now that she is a bit active I'm hoping for some info on what happened today.

Edit 2: nevermind. My phone didn't alert me of all her other tweets for the lastfew hours. Here are these anyways.

 

[Gumby]

1. While I don't disagree with you, citing YouTube videos and Wikipedia articles as sources is not a good look.

There weren't any youtube videos or wikipedia articles, so I'm a little confused. There were 3 "posters" which present information quickly, but also one of the many peer-reviewed scientific articles I've collected on this subject. The big names in researching trans in general and autogynephilia in particular are on Twitter and often share their newest articles with us (since they'd cost a lot if you don't have a research library access).

Can you point me to the youtube videos and wikipedia articles you thought you saw - were they maybe on a different comment...? TIA.

 

[SourDiesel]

There weren't any youtube videos or wikipedia articles, so I'm a little confused. There were 3 "posters" which present information quickly, but also one of the many peer-reviewed scientific articles I've collected on this subject. The big names in researching trans in general and autogynephilia in particular are on Twitter and often share their newest articles with us (since they'd cost a lot if you don't have a research library access).

Can you point me to the youtube videos and wikipedia articles you thought you saw - were they maybe on a different comment...? TIA.

It's the "posters" dude. Just say what you want to say and give citation links if you want to/have them. Dumb memes are dumb regardless if what's written on them. It makes you look like a wierdo and no you didn't link any YouTube videos but you're being autistic if you seriously thought that comment was literal.

For real though, none of that info was new to anyone here really. We have tons and tons of threads on troons filled with an absolutely incredible amount of information and discussion on this topic. We don't need a fucking meme to know that some of these dudes have fetishes and some of em are really femmy gay dudes. I mean half of the troons in that meme have threads here and one has a whole subforum. Look around a bit and get to know the place.

 

[Marvin]

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Edit: sorry if the formatting is off, I am on mobile. Now that she is a bit active I'm hoping for some info on what happened today.

Edit 2: nevermind. My phone didn't alert me of all her other tweets for the lastfew hours. Here are these anyways.

lol bragging about how deep your faux pussy goes. very feminine

is this a typical bragging point for natal ladies? any in the room can attest to this?

are all the XX ladies hanging around the locker room bragging about how deep their cunts go? "yeah, I can totally fit a whole housecat + pineapple up there"

v feminine

 

[crushedpuss]

lol bragging about how deep your faux pussy goes. very feminine

is this a typical bragging point for natal ladies? any in the room can attest to this?

are all the XX ladies hanging around the locker room bragging about how deep their cunts go? "yeah, I can totally fit a whole housecat + pineapple up there"

v feminine

We usually measure in billiard balls. So you can tell this "girl" is fake as hell.

 

[AbraCadaver]

lol bragging about how deep your faux pussy goes. very feminine

is this a typical bragging point for natal ladies? any in the room can attest to this?

are all the XX ladies hanging around the locker room bragging about how deep their cunts go? "yeah, I can totally fit a whole housecat + pineapple up there"

v feminine

Can confirm this is only a thing that troons do. Women give as much of a fuck at how deep their crevasses are in the same manner than men get together to brag about how pointy their elbows are. It’s not something that’s even on a normal person’s radar.

Troons care about it because they’re men and used to measuring their dicks and by god, they are going to continue to measure their dicks, even if they’re inside out.

 

[PussyDemon]

lol bragging about how deep your faux pussy goes. very feminine

is this a typical bragging point for natal ladies? any in the room can attest to this?

are all the XX ladies hanging around the locker room bragging about how deep their cunts go? "yeah, I can totally fit a whole housecat + pineapple up there"

v feminine

I doubt most of us actually know how deep our own parts are. Definitely a troon thing that no one really cares about.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

Can confirm this is only a thing that troons do. Women give as much of a fuck at how deep their crevasses are in the same manner than men get together to brag about how pointy their elbows are. It’s not something that’s even on a normal person’s radar.

Troons care about it because they’re men and used to measuring their dicks and by god, they are going to continue to measure their dicks, even if they’re inside out.

I agree.
I'm an old fart, and vaginal depth is a subject that's NEVER come up.
Never ever.

 

[AbraCadaver]

I agree.
I'm an old fart, and vaginal depth is a subject that's NEVER come up.
Never ever.

I mean it’s only a matter of time before Cosmo and other mags run out of things to make women insecure about, they’ve been insisting lately that we need to have sexy backs now, not sure how to achieve that. So perhaps when they debut their new article “TOP TEN WAYS TO GET YOUR DEEPEST, LADIES!”, it will become a topic among women.

I doubt most of us actually know how deep our own parts are. Definitely a troon thing that no one really cares about.

How would we even go about determining it? Shove a ruler up there? Those things have sharp edges, no thanks m8.

Do gay men determine how deep their own arseholes are? Are men just very preoccupied with measuring different parts of themselves all the time? No wonder they like math so much more than we do.

 

[Gumby]

lol bragging about how deep your faux pussy goes. very feminine

is this a typical bragging point for natal ladies? any in the room can attest to this?

Never seen it happen. Sounds more like something men would be interested in.

not that I"m saying the opposite is true either. vaginas* are flexible, of course. being able to stretch a lot isn't a bad thing. *(real vaginas, made by nature/god, not, y'know, a surgeon with too much time on his hands)

Are men just very preoccupied with measuring different parts of themselves all the time? No wonder they like math so much more than we do.

That reminds me of this new language they're pushing on us, "front hole" and "back hole". Any woman knows that the vagina is actually a "middle hole" - but I guess the male trans were only counting things that could be penetrated lol

 

[Ronnie Rocket]

I doubt most of us actually know how deep our own parts are. Definitely a troon thing that no one really cares about.

Yeah, measuring your bits is a dude thing.

 

[AnOminous]

That reminds me of this new language they're pushing on us, "front hole" and "back hole". Any woman knows that the vagina is actually a "middle hole" - but I guess the male trans were only counting things that could be penetrated lol

That's because they have their fake vaginas where their dicks used to be and, being willfully ignorant and arrogant men, don't know anything about female anatomy.

 

[KweenKarlotta]

lol bragging about how deep your faux pussy goes. very feminine

is this a typical bragging point for natal ladies? any in the room can attest to this?

are all the XX ladies hanging around the locker room bragging about how deep their cunts go? "yeah, I can totally fit a whole housecat + pineapple up there"

v feminine

Bio Female checking in. Sounds like they're bragging about how much dick they're going to take? I mean what else would you do with a neovag

 

[AbraCadaver]

That reminds me of this new language they're pushing on us, "front hole" and "back hole". Any woman knows that the vagina is actually a "middle hole" - but I guess the male trans were only counting things that could be penetrated lol

Reducing a woman’s complex biology down to a series of holes you can potentially have sex with is definitely a very True and Honest Woman thing to do and not a fuckheaded horny-man-in-a-dress thing. Their powerful Female Brains are now totally in sync with that of a bio woman’s.

Although unlike a born woman’s body, with its set of complex inner organs leading to both the bladder in one direction and a functioning uterus and ovaries for childmaking in the other, the troon front hole IS just a hole punched into their crotch and kept open by constantly shoving a dilator up it, so that it becomes a wound that never closes.

So it IS a front hole in that respect. Kind of insulting to associate their own anus with it, though. An anus has an actual function.

 

[crushedpuss]

I mean what else would you do with a neovag

Use it to brag about how big your dick used to be, probably.

 

[Sevenatenine]

lol bragging about how deep your faux pussy goes. very feminine

is this a typical bragging point for natal ladies? any in the room can attest to this?

are all the XX ladies hanging around the locker room bragging about how deep their cunts go? "yeah, I can totally fit a whole housecat + pineapple up there"

v feminine

I spent a lot of time in locker rooms with natal women. Depth was not a point of pride for straight, lesbian or bi girls.

Outside the straighter talking, sexually liberated rugby girls, most ladies would be more concerned that their own bits were imperfect or "not normal".