Jessica Yaniv: True & Honest Woman, Autogynephile, or Other? - Discuss JY's transness here

[wenttobermuda]

I don't see why JY and other AGP's don't embrace their revolting and inexplicable fetish rather trying to make the world complicit in their sexual arousal by pretending they're ladies. Oh wait, I get it now. They on some level, recognize what they are.

In recent years we've beatified gays, and want to think of them as normal, clean scrubbed, monogamous and saintly. The truth is more complicated and shit stained. AGPs have noticed the social capital that gays have acquired, and want it as much as they want to force their lady dicks on lesbians. Better to be a noble sexual minority with special wisdom to share, than a dude who lacks boundaries and gets hard over the strangest shit.

I'm convinced that the JY show, from the lolsuits to ridiculous tweets, is all aboit making his dick hard. I feel awful for enabling it.

 

[MG 620]

You may call it a "yanivphile". He's obsessed with himself.

 

[Breaker of Swains]

You may call it a "yanivphile". He's obsessed with himself.

Something like this.

I don't think he's even strictly AGP. He reads a lot more like a narcissistic, psychopathic pedo bully to me.

Unfortunately for him, he's also really not the brightest crayon in the box, so he has a hard time getting away with his behaviour. Which, in all fairness, we should all be thankful for: just imagine the lying, manipulative shit but in smart. Noone would be safe.

 

[Teazel]

Something like this.

I don't think he's even strictly AGP. He reads a lot more like a narcissistic, psychopathic pedo bully to me.

Unfortunately for him, he's also really not the brightest crayon in the box, so he has a hard time getting away with his behaviour. Which, in all fairness, we should all be thankful for: just imagine the lying, manipulative shit but in smart. Noone would be safe.

AGP is not mutually exclusive to NPD or pedophilia. They can all sadly, frighteningly co-exist in one terrifying garbage bag with a human skin stretched over it.

 

[Breaker of Swains]

AGP is not mutually exclusive to NPD or pedophilia. They can all sadly, frighteningly co-exist in one terrifying garbage bag with a human skin stretched over it.

Fair point. He really does win the "most diversified approach to being a spectacularly awful individual" prize, doesn't he?

 

[Teazel]

Fair point. He really does win the "most diversified approach to being a spectacularly awful individual" prize, doesn't he?

Another stunning and brave trans woman competing in sport.

 

[Papa Adolfo's Take'n'Bake]

I don't see why JY and other AGP's don't embrace their revolting and inexplicable fetish rather trying to make the world complicit in their sexual arousal by pretending they're ladies. Oh wait, I get it now. They on some level, recognize what they are.

In recent years we've beatified gays, and want to think of them as normal, clean scrubbed, monogamous and saintly. The truth is more complicated and shit stained. AGPs have noticed the social capital that gays have acquired, and want it as much as they want to force their lady dicks on lesbians. Better to be a noble sexual minority with special wisdom to share, than a dude who lacks boundaries and gets hard over the strangest shit.

I'm convinced that the JY show, from the lolsuits to ridiculous tweets, is all aboit making his dick hard. I feel awful for enabling it.

You're a little late to the party, even as LGB started revving up in the mid-to-late 2000's the tredy thing was to identify as "bisexual" or "heteroflexible" but the intent was always there, to feed the ego with social capital from being the "outcast,"well before the Trans train left the station. AGP's are justthe latest incarnation of egomaniacs looking to create an interesting, engaged persona about themselves without actually doing anything that requires effort. Yaniv is just the latest sign that we are approaching the logical extreme of the coupling between "inclusivity" and this narcissistic quest to "be the outcast and thus interesting."

Also, yea he definitely gets off on all this attention.

 

[SourDiesel]

You're a little late to the party, even as LGB started revving up in the mid-to-late 2000's the tredy thing was to identify as "bisexual" or "heteroflexible" but the intent was always there, to feed the ego with social capital from being the "outcast,"well before the Trans train left the station. AGP's are justthe latest incarnation of egomaniacs looking to create an interesting, engaged persona about themselves without actually doing anything that requires effort. Yaniv is just the latest sign that we are approaching the logical extreme of the coupling between "inclusivity" and this narcissistic quest to "be the outcast and thus interesting."

Also, yea he definitely gets off on all this attention.

Without any effort or, in fact, actually being outcast. It's really strange how they do this because it's obviously seen as "cool" and then turn around and pretend they're treated so poorly by society. Like, guys, you only took on this "identity" because it's socially acceptable in the first place. There is absolutely nothing interesting about being gay or a tranny. Especially when everyone's a damned tranny these days and they are all created with the same cookie cutter.

 

[cameronthedruid]

There weren't any youtube videos or wikipedia articles, so I'm a little confused. There were 3 "posters" which present information quickly, but also one of the many peer-reviewed scientific articles I've collected on this subject. The big names in researching trans in general and autogynephilia in particular are on Twitter and often share their newest articles with us (since they'd cost a lot if you don't have a research library access).

Can you point me to the youtube videos and wikipedia articles you thought you saw - were they maybe on a different comment...? TIA.

One of your super scientific "posters" has sources listed and they are wikipedia and youtube. that's the criticism.

 

[wenttobermuda]

You're a little late to the party, even as LGB started revving up in the mid-to-late 2000's the tredy thing was to identify as "bisexual" or "heteroflexible" but the intent was always there, to feed the ego with social capital from being the "outcast,"well before the Trans train left the station. AGP's are justthe latest incarnation of egomaniacs looking to create an interesting, engaged persona about themselves without actually doing anything that requires effort. Yaniv is just the latest sign that we are approaching the logical extreme of the coupling between "inclusivity" and this narcissistic quest to "be the outcast and thus interesting."

Also, yea he definitely gets off on all this attention.

Since the 90s, at least, people have been playing the "maybe I'm gay/bi" game for attention and asspats. It required little investment of time, or energy, or exposure to homophobia. You'd simply tell someone you wanted to ball that maybe you were gay/bi and you'd become fascinating. No personality to speak of? Just a dull, gray idiot? Be maybe-gay. So I've seen that.

AGPs strike me as something on another order of magnitude. They must invest tremendous time and effort, and even go so far as to mutilate their bodies, for the attention and interest the desire. And it's not just attention. It's part of their arousal. The fetish has a degree of exhibitionism inherent to it.

JY gets off on the attention, not figuratively. He blows loads from his female penis all over the place everytime he composed a ridiculous tweet and is dragged for it. It makes following his saga grosser than normal imo.

 

[theshep]

Since the 90s, at least, people have been playing the "maybe I'm gay/bi" game for attention and asspats.

Yeah, and then it morphed into that non-binary bullshit.

I saw this the other day and thought it was hilarious.

Spoiler: Queer Theory Glossary

Queer Theory Glossary
In case you’ve had trouble keeping up with the spate of new queer theory terms, here’s a handy glossary for your reference.
Queer – A straight person with an interesting haircut.
Non-binary/genderqueer – A chubby young female, typically 16-28, who has dyed her hair blue. Is probably what was once called a lesbian, but she doesn’t like that word.
Lesbian – A man in his 40’s who works in IT and started wearing his wife’s panties last year.
Transgender – A person whose aversion to society’s made-up gender stereotypes should be taken way more seriously than everyone else’s aversion to society’s made-up gender stereotypes.
Pansexual – Someone who likes men who dress in masculine clothes and men who dress in feminine clothes.
TERF – A mature woman who goes about her business without thinking about men enough. The party that should be held responsible when a redneck man beats up a male prostitute.
Cis – Someone who daydreams wistfully about putting on appropriate clothing and showing their genitals to the doctor.
Sexual orientation – Bigotry in the form of having opinions about whose genitals you like to touch.
Intersectionality – Remembering to include a variety of different types of men in your feminism.
Transmisogyny – When straight white men can’t get other people to say the things they want them to say, and it feels worse than any form of oppression anyone else on the planet has ever experienced.
Ze/Hir – Pronouns you can request to disrupt college classes when you haven’t done the assigned work.
Gay – A passé identity that isn’t cool enough anymore and needs rebranding.
Asexual – A person who feels left out.
Intersex – Probably all of us. I mean, you’ve never had a chromosome test, have you. HAVE YOU?

Queer Theory Glossary – The Trans Widow

 

[Papa Adolfo's Take'n'Bake]

Since the 90s, at least, people have been playing the "maybe I'm gay/bi" game for attention and asspats. It required little investment of time, or energy, or exposure to homophobia. You'd simply tell someone you wanted to ball that maybe you were gay/bi and you'd become fascinating. No personality to speak of? Just a dull, gray idiot? Be maybe-gay. So I've seen that.

AGPs strike me as something on another order of magnitude. They must invest tremendous time and effort, and even go so far as to mutilate their bodies, for the attention and interest the desire. And it's not just attention. It's part of their arousal. The fetish has a degree of exhibitionism inherent to it.

JY gets off on the attention, not figuratively. He blows loads from his female penis all over the place everytime he composed a ridiculous tweet and is dragged for it. It makes following his saga grosser than normal imo.

Yea, I mostly remember the 2000's when it was big, I imagine the 90's were the beginnings of it.

AGP's are, I believe the logical extreme and a result of this 20-almost-30 year rat race for asspats. to get the most asspats you must rbe the MOST "Inclusive" the MOST "in the know about persecuted people" and the BIGGEST savior of this "persecuted" population. Back in the 00's and the 90's, It was "I'm GAAAYYYYY." in the 2010's it was identifying as "non-binary." Now the stakes are upped. We've run out of persecuted groups where you can just claim to be one and put on an act, now the ante has to be upped. There now has to be effort put into this to an extent. Now, instead of the deviant that just flirted with other boys, you gotta be the boy who can't live with his penis because of how "broken" and "emotional," "persecuted" and thus asspat-worthy, so he NEEDS that surgery to feel better. He thus NEEDS your time, NEEDS your pity and concern. The problem, (aside from, hey that effort may have gone towards something useful) is that people are getting closer and closer to having enough. The really interesting question, especially with this Yaniv case, is how far does the envelope go berfore it flies off the table and into the fire? What does that fire look like? All we can tell right now is that Yaniv and his AGP ilk certainy aren't softening whatever blows may come.

 

[Gender of peace]

AGP is not mutually exclusive to NPD or pedophilia. They can all sadly, frighteningly co-exist in one terrifying garbage bag with a human skin stretched over it.

My guess is Jonathan has antisocial personality disorder which is what sets him apart from your standard AGP troon who exhibits more narcissist and borderline traits. Jonathan is afflicted with a reckless and pathological disregard for the rights and wellbeing of others and this is what fuels both his obsession with pads/tampons, his racism, and his pedophilia. It's also why he can't find community with other troons.

 

[Jack Awful]

"Saying you're a woman means you're a woman, period!"
also:
"Yaniv isn't trans, even if he says he is!"
Lol, ok tard.

 

[2nd_time_user]

My guess is Jonathan has antisocial personality disorder which is what sets him apart from your standard AGP troon who exhibits more narcissist and borderline traits. Jonathan is afflicted with a reckless and pathological disregard for the rights and wellbeing of others and this is what fuels both his obsession with pads/tampons, his raci hsm, and his pedophilia. It's also why he can't find community with other troons.

If he were mostly ASD, he wouldn't need validation for his actions. He'd just do them and if they didn't work, he would unemotionally go on. The antecedent for ASD is what used to be called "reactive attachment disorder," which got fame in the oughts. "Nice" 12-yos caught fucking a 5-yo, having knives under their bed forcing the parents to set door alarms, and when CPS finally comes, no attachment to their caregivers, just a rapidly disintegrating veneer for the next family/victim. They don't care if anyone really loves them or whether what they're doing is really wrong, b/c on a deep level, they don't understand either.

JY isn't exactly like this. He has an attached/enmeshed parent. He is highly invested in the world talking about him versus not caring. He cares enough to attempt to make everyone else see it his way. He's NPD for sure prob with other Cluster B characteristics, but his main problem is being at an arrested concrete operational stage but without the deference to authority usually seen there. That is why he does not understand Hughes sarc and why he overreacts to Rebel.

 

[Patricia Highsmith]

If he were mostly ASD, he wouldn't need validation for his actions. He'd just do them and if they didn't work, he would unemotionally go on. The antecedent for ASD is what used to be called "reactive attachment disorder," which got fame in the oughts. "Nice" 12-yos caught fucking a 5-yo, having knives under their bed forcing the parents to set door alarms, and when CPS finally comes, no attachment to their caregivers, just a rapidly disintegrating veneer for the next family/victim. They don't care if anyone really loves them or whether what they're doing is really wrong, b/c on a deep level, they don't understand either.

JY isn't exactly like this. He has an attached/enmeshed parent. He is highly invested in the world talking about him versus not caring. He cares enough to attempt to make everyone else see it his way. He's NPD for sure prob with other Cluster B characteristics, but his main problem is being at an arrested concrete operational stage but without the deference to authority usually seen there. That is why he does not understand Hughes sarc and why he overreacts to Rebel.

Not sure where this fits diagnostically but JY totally fucks up when he's ambushed; physically, emotionally, or by new facts. He seems to be in control when executing a plan, but when surprised he forgets his "character", says and does "stupid" and we get glimpses of the stinkwetmess.

 

[2nd_time_user]

Not sure where this fits diagnostically but JY totally fucks up when he's ambushed; physically, emotionally, or by new facts. He seems to be in control when executing a plan, but when surprised he forgets his "character", says and does "stupid" and we get glimpses of the stinkwetmess.

NPD with BPD characteristics. They can't accept that they fucked up and moreover still want everyone to act like they didn't. They're not "acting" as ASDs do, they really do think all will be forgiven if you just see it their way and consequently "love them back" in an unconditional way. When that doesn't happen, they resolve to make whoever's fault they think it is pay, while simultaneously threatening to neck themselves.

 

[DoodleBerry]

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There used to be mainly a small group of transSEXuals, and they mostly kept to themselves. They wanted surgery and worked to fit in. Now there are transGENDERS, with self-ID we have men w/beards and full male genitalia wearing blue jeans insisting they belong in women's spaces. It's generally the transGENDERs that get in your face and push the boundaries.

There have, for a long time, been documented two types of trans*. The smaller group, the transsexuals, who have dysphoria & have genital surgery. They are gay (men in dresses who like men). The larger group, the transGENDERs, some of them take estrogen to get breasts, but they don't want genital surgery. They are straight men attracted to women. They are autogynephiles, a sexual fetish where they get turned on by pretending to be women and getting women to accept them (hence the push for lesbians to have sex w/their "female penis" instead of seeking straight women). Many of the autogynephiles have other sexual fetishes as well, and one of the common ones is a menstruation fetish, like JY.

*A new type has emerged, ROGD (Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria), it happens to mostly girls around puberty (usually it's more men than women). Most of these kids would accept their actual sex if let alone, maybe some counseling. There are many who are autistic, many with other mental illness, and some would realize when older that they are lesbians. Many feel that girls are horrified and overwhelmed with the role they are supposed to inhabit as a woman, boys are porn soaked and pushing them into painful acts and teaching them that it's all about the guy's pleasure, they hear the messages that women are second class, etc. And of course they hear messages they are supposed to be ultra feminine, and if they aren't, transpeople tell them - well, you must really be a trans, a man in a woman's body.

But the big push is for them to get on the trans train younger and younger (and remember, up to 90% would desist if left alone). The people pushing for this are the autogynephiles, even though their life histories are extremely different. But they want these kids on puberty blockers if a girl plays with a truck - because then they can say

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Doesn't Carla make adult content? If she's going to do penetrative her neovag might get rekt. They're not really fit for purpose.
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This is the" a hole is a hole" mentality

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

NPD with BPD characteristics. They can't accept that they fucked up and moreover still want everyone to act like they didn't. They're not "acting" as ASDs do, they really do think all will be forgiven if you just see it their way and consequently "love them back" in an unconditional way. When that doesn't happen, they resolve to make whoever's fault they think it is pay, while simultaneously threatening to neck themselves.

I agree with you, but he has to have some sort of mild mental retardation.

 

[2nd_time_user]

I agree with you, but he has to have some sort of mild mental exceptionalism.

I think his cog IQ is within the 80-110 norm range. For him to have gotten an SEO job, for him to have been atop all these socks and machinations requires that.

AFA whether he's on the spectrum (not joking but real)? That could explain a lot according to cdc's current definition. https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/signs.html