Jesus Died for Your Columbine -

[Jewelsmakerguy]

So this is apparently a thing that exists:

Basically it's the story of the Columbine shooting with just a hint (understatement) of Christianity thrown in because "Fuck the lives of everyone else, we need to focus on our religion damn it!"

As a bonus, it's being released on the 17th anniversary of the shooting.

Thoughts? Opinions? Me personally, I think it's a horrible way of commemorating the anniversary of an event like this.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

On the tenth anniversary this would have made sense. The 17th is too far from common memory. However faith based films are quite profitable because they automatically get a large audience and comparably have very small budgets.

 

[Tranhuviya]

That mother was a huge attention whore. Probably a worse sociopath than either of the faggots who shot up Columbine, profiting off her daughter's death like that.

 

[Tookie]

Evangelicals have been trying to latch onto Columbine since it happened. There are a variety of reasons why, but most of it is rooted in misinformation from the first 48 hours after the shooting ascribing anti-Christian motivations to the shooters and willing suspension of disbelief.

 

[drtoboggan]

What a jabroni show.

 

[XYZpdq]

In the movie version they have rock monsters show up to protect her from the heathens.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

On the tenth anniversary this would have made sense. The 17th is too far from common memory. However faith based films are quite profitable because they automatically get a large audience and comparably have very small budgets.

And unfortunately, tend to be somewhat shittier at filmmaking than even the most incompetent blockbuster. Noah's the only one I can think of released recently with a sizable budget, and it too falls into the same pratfalls as even the no-budget stuff (bad writing, sub-par CGI, mostly shitty acting even from the big names in the cast, the list goes on).

Interestingly, doing some basic searching on Wikipedia, the whole thing feels mostly pointless to begin with. Mostly because they seem to confuse Rachel Scott (the film's subject) with fellow victim Cassie Bernall. Almost as if they actually didn't care about the other victims. Yeah, it's sad that she died and all. But making it all about her (and to a lesser extent, the shooters) makes it feel all the more self-centered and hollow. And doubly so with its release date.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Yeah, I'm gonna shamelessly exploit a tragedy where a bunch of kids died senselessly because that's totally what Jesus would've wanted.

(Do they care about the parents of the other victims and how this would make them feel? Of course not. Because Jesus)

 

[The Great Chandler]

I liked the way they depict those Columbine goons as single-minded evil atheistic psychopaths who literally have no complex cause other than "KILL KILL KILL"!

 

[WhoWhatWhere]

Yes.

Because this will make the heathens think twice about shitting on religion, guns and bible pushers. Also second the opinion that they mixed up Rachel Scott and Cassie Bernall.

They should tell the tale of Adam Lanza and his fight and subsequent loss against all things good and just. God wills it.

 

[Sperglord Dante]

That felt like...a SNL parody of a the highschool drama genre with some Columbine stuff thrown it for morbid humor, rather than an actual trailer for an actual Columbine movie.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

That felt like...a SNL parody of a the highschool drama genre with some Columbine stuff thrown it for morbid humor, rather than an actual trailer for an actual Columbine movie.

it does, doesn't it?

And yet, it is oh so real.

I liked the way they depict those Columbine goons as single-minded evil atheistic psychopaths who literally have no complex cause other than "KILL KILL KILL"!

Gotta force in some unsympathetic characters somewhere, you know. Can't be a Christian film without them

 

[Hat]

I recall my school being visited by the organization that the parents of Rachel Scott founded in order to promote her friendship and good-feelings philosophy to the world, and the content in this trailer seems to match what I recall from the presentation. Therefore, unless their organization had the details confused themselves, I doubt that they have confused the girl with this Cassie Bernall.

I am altogether unmoved by some of the petulant responses in this thread to the idea that Christians would dare make a film that focuses on a particular victim of Columbine and her faith rather than on the massacre as a whole. That said, it just doesn't look like a good movie.

 

[WhoWhatWhere]

I recall my school being visited by the organization that the parents of Rachel Scott founded in order to promote her friendship and good-feelings philosophy to the world, and the content in this trailer seems to match what I recall from the presentation. Therefore, unless their organization had the details confused themselves, I doubt that they have confused the girl with this Cassie Bernall.

I am altogether unmoved by some of the petulant responses in this thread to the idea that Christians would dare make a film that focuses on a particular victim of Columbine and her faith rather than on the massacre as a whole. That said, it just doesn't look like a good movie.

Rachel Scott died outside. Not in the library which is where the whole do you believe in God thing happened. Powerlevel or not I just finished the book Columbine and there is actually a chapter on this very topic.

 

[Philosophy Zombie]

I recall my school being visited by the organization that the parents of Rachel Scott founded in order to promote her friendship and good-feelings philosophy to the world, and the content in this trailer seems to match what I recall from the presentation. Therefore, unless their organization had the details confused themselves, I doubt that they have confused the girl with this Cassie Bernall.

I am altogether unmoved by some of the petulant responses in this thread to the idea that Christians would dare make a film that focuses on a particular victim of Columbine and her faith rather than on the massacre as a whole. That said, it just doesn't look like a good movie.

I did too. If I recall correctly this is how the story happened.

Rachel Scott was like this 16-year-old girl who was really emo because she thought she was gonna die before she was twenty. Regardless, she believed that she would somehow change the world before she died. So she spent all her time being pious and nice to everyone and sat with the kids no one liked or something.

She became friends with this kid named Arthur or something who was retarded and had a funny face and got stuck in lockers a lot. They weren't actually friends friends because she never went to his house or really went out of her way to do anything besides be polite, but he had no one else who even bothered to be polite to him so it was a big thing. One day Arthur got stuck in a locker again and Rachel said "bullies take Arthur out of that locker". So the bullies let him out of the locker.

On the period before Klebold and Harris went to shoot-em-up she scribbled in her notebook an eye with twenty-one tears on it and twenty-one people got shot in columbine so it's basically illuminati.

I would make a great movie director.

Rachel Scott died outside. Not in the library which is where the whole do you believe in God thing happened. Powerlevel or not I just finished the book Columbine and there is actually a chapter on this very topic.

I was told she died in the library.

 

[Hat]

Rachel Scott died outside. Not in the library which is where the whole do you believe in God thing happened. Powerlevel or not I just finished the book Columbine and there is actually a chapter on this very topic.

This old news article reports that multiple students were asked if they believed in God, Rachel and Cassie included.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I did too. If I recall correctly this is how the story happened.

Rachel Scott was like this 16-year-old girl who was really emo because she thought she was gonna die before she was twenty. Regardless, she believed that she would somehow change the world before she died. So she spent all her time being pious and nice to everyone and sat with the kids no one liked or something.

She became friends with this kid named Arthur or something who was retarded and had a funny face and got stuck in lockers a lot. They weren't actually friends friends because she never went to his house or really went out of her way to do anything besides be polite, but he had no one else who even bothered to be polite to him so it was a big thing. One day Arthur got stuck in a locker again and Rachel said "bullies take Arthur out of that locker". So the bullies let him out of the locker.

On the period before Klebold and Harris went to shoot-em-up she scribbled in her notebook an eye with twenty-one tears on it and twenty-one people got shot in columbine so it's basically illuminati.

I would make a great movie director.

Not going to lie, I'd see a movie if it were based on that theory. Dunno why though.

That said, it still feels fairly shallow for a tie-in all things considered.

 

[WhoWhatWhere]

I did too. If I recall correctly this is how the story happened.

Rachel Scott was like this 16-year-old girl who was really emo because she thought she was gonna die before she was twenty. Regardless, she believed that she would somehow change the world before she died. So she spent all her time being pious and nice to everyone and sat with the kids no one liked or something.

She became friends with this kid named Arthur or something who was retarded and had a funny face and got stuck in lockers a lot. They weren't actually friends friends because she never went to his house or really went out of her way to do anything besides be polite, but he had no one else who even bothered to be polite to him so it was a big thing. One day Arthur got stuck in a locker again and Rachel said "bullies take Arthur out of that locker". So the bullies let him out of the locker.

On the period before Klebold and Harris went to shoot-em-up she scribbled in her notebook an eye with twenty-one tears on it and twenty-one people got shot in columbine so it's basically illuminati.

I would make a great movie director.

I was told she died in the library.

"Rachel was shot while eating lunch with her friend, Richard Castaldo, on the lawn outside of the school's library. She was killed by Eric Harris with multiple gunshot wounds to her head, chest, arm, and leg. "


I was trying to multi-quote this but brainfart.
Multiple people were asked if they believed in God. It's just the library that the whole "martyr" thing happened.

It's creepy knowing all this off the cuff but yea seriously just finished the book. It's really pretty interesting.

Also: This AMA w Brooks Brown (the dude that Eric said I like you now so go home) is a really fascinating read. He disputes a couple of things from the Dave Cullen book Columbine. Highly recommend both the book and the AMA if only for morbid curiosity.

https://m.reddit.com/comments/gulaf/iama_columbine_survivor_named_brooks_brown_i_was/

 

[Trombonista]

Somebody should show this to Lynn Ann.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

it does, doesn't it?

And yet, it is oh so real.


Gotta force in some unsympathetic characters somewhere, you know. Can't be a Christian film without them

If you look into them, the Columbine shooters were largely unsympathetic. At least Eric Harris--who we now know was the architect of the whole thing--certainly was. Posthumous psychoanalysis found the kid was most likely a bona-fide sociopath who hated people and had no problem manipulating them. That's how he got out of his first run-in with the law for stealing computer equipment. People point to him being a victim of bullying, but reports found he was a pretty big bully himself and gave more than he got. He was also a firm believer in Social Darwinism and fantasized about dumping everyone into a prison colony where they all had to fight for their lives.

Dylan Klebold is a good deal more tragic. Like Harris, he was anti-social and prone to fits of misanthropy. But similar analysis found he suffered from severe depression which completely flew under his parents' radar. He also had a real weakness for pretty girls and was totally in love with one of his classmates, which only fueled his depression. This all made him really susceptible for Harris's influence. However, he was still a pretty big jerk from what we can tell.

The real take-away from Columbine is these shooter types rarely act before making their plans very clear. Harris and Klebold's friends and family were obviously not paying much attention because these kids were building propane bombs in their garage for over a month.

I don't think a Christian-themed Columbine film is necessarily exploitive. The Christian Right is full of judgmental wackos, but they usually don't do anything unless they feel there's a real message to be shared. It is however, a gross oversimplification of a very complex tragedy.

There are events which are inappropriate topics for films, and school shootings are definitely one of them.