Jew Conspiracy - Where and how did it first started?

[The Last Stand]

Not sure if this was posted before (I couldn't find one of this topic, but it is a legitimate question.)

From the horrific shooting in Pittsburgh to "casual anti-Semitism" to a Muslim politician making remarks about Israel, it makes me wonder where does this conspiracy of Jews stem from? Why are Jews usually the source of conspiracy theories and hate from multiple walks of life?

 

[Cool kitties club]

Well it stems from a number of issues. In Rome Jews were hated for not worshiping the emperor because of monotheism. In religious conflicts Jews are targeted for having a different religion. The catholic church banned charging loans with interest so Jews were pushed into loan/tax jobs due to being ostracized from guilds. Jewish hygiene standards allowed them to be hit less hard by the black plague which aroused suspicion. In general Jewish culture is very ethnic which makes it much more strange and easy to be put to blame; unlike other universalizing religions which unite people of many ethnicity. Jews also are frequently a diasporic community which makes them easy scapegoats for blame.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Depending on your definition of “Jewish conspiracy” the answer will greatly very:
If you just go by general Anti-Semitism, then the sentiment can be traced back into antiquity with the Greeks, which my guess stems from tribalism
If you are going by many modern theories most of them have roots from 19th century theorists
There is also “religious” antisemetism that occurred during Christianity due to the belief of supercessionism: that the chosen people became Christians after Jesus and people who didn’t convert were heretics

So again, depending on your definition here your answers will wildly vary

 

[The Last Stand]

Depending on your definition of “Jewish conspiracy” the answer will greatly very:

Since this is "Deep Thoughts", go with all those reasons you've listed. I suppose I should've been more specific.

 

[morbidly-obese-steven]

The first answer was good sum up of the early issues, but also for example in post WW1 Germany they were in shitty position as decently well doing minority meanwhile everyone else lost everything they had and grew angry and bitter. You got bunch of piss poor people rising from the turmoil and having strong feeling SOMEONE had wronged them, it is easy to find someone to blame and it is easier to oversimplify the list of the wrongdoers from neighbor countries/all minorities to eventually jews because they were seen as the privileged group who by this and this way were to blame and plotted everything against the Germans.

 

[You Can't Sit With Us]

Maybe because it's all true

 

[CatParty]

it was started by dummies when they kept failing

 

[IV 445]

Judaism is as much an ideology as a religion to the best of my knowledge. And in it, the Torah emphasizes intelligence and wisdom.

This is best characterized by the story of David and Goliath. David was a soyboi manlet, Goliath was a chad. But 1 rock was all it took.

This is also similar to the history of Jews, living in slavery, wilderness, always beating the odds. If underhanded tactics can ensure the survival of your people? So be it.

Also the Torah emphasizes frugality and thrift from an age where resources were scare af. Simultaneously, it emphasizes community morals, leaving 1/10th of your fields unharvested so the poor can pick it, for example.

There are some exceptions, but this was before Christ extended this dictum to all mankind to love your neighbor as yourself. Back then, it was mostly extended to fellow Jews. With exception to outsiders who were mostly just shown the door out of Judea if they were being shitheads.

https://biblehub.com/exodus/22-21.htm

This is why you’ll see Jews give other Jews a leg up in fields (Elena Kagen, current SCJ, was known to abuse this in her academic positions) Is it an advantage? Sure. Unfair? I suppose.

I’d add more but I’m on mobile. I am trying to find a masterful post by @Judge Holden where he basically laid out the more recent history of Jews in Europe involving banking and Rothschilds and so forth. Maybe he can help?

 

[Dildo]

In short; They're an ethnic minority, they don't follow the main God of anywhere else in the world outside Israel, and they're wealthy.

Just one of those historically has been enough to inspire murder. All three is like a big neon sign over their heads.

 

[anprim gang]

From my understanding, most of the jewish conspiracies stem from the fact that Jews do have a disproportionate representation both in government and in the upper classes of society. In addition, pundits like Ben Shapiro, who has stated that he considers himself Jewish before he considers himself American, have led to theories that Jews place Israel before there own country. This was very prevalent when the United States entered WWII, as a lot of people accused the government of following Jewish Interests instead of the best interests of the United States.

The reason for Jewish Overrepresentation comes from a variety of factors. Being a Jew myself, I think part of the reason is due to Jewish cultural values, with Jewish culture placing lots of value in education, frugality, and community, all of which are very helpful when trying to succeed in society. In addition, most of the 'traditionally jewish careers' tend to be very high earning jobs (e.g. Lawyers, Bankers, Doctors et. al.). In addition, I've heard the reason for the success of Jewish lawyers comes from the fact that many large law firms used to have 'Jewish Quotas' so many Jews were forced to create their own smaller law firms, in addition, the large law firms wouldn't deal with lots of the shadier business dealings because they saw them as dirty and morally questionable, so the smaller jewish firms would take on these dealings, which turned out to be highly lucrative.

I haven't done a huge amount of research into this, so most of this is just opinion and unverified facts that I've heard in my time online.

 

[The Last Stand]

The wealth part does have merit. They also have the Holocaust as well, almost like it's both an oppressed minority and oppressive minority at the same time. The people making anti Semitic remarks, isit still wrong to do?

 

[BeanBidan]

When our royal kangz n shieeeet were wronged back during the Egyptian empires. Jew's caused gay frogs to fall from the sky and they got super aids

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

The wealth part does have merit. They also have the Holocaust as well, almost like it's both an oppressed minority and oppressive minority at the same time. The people making anti Semitic remarks, isit still wrong to do?

Is it wrong to say things that hurt people's feelings?
Not really. Sure, it isn't nice, that's all part of free speech.
Now if you're seriously and directly telling people to go kill Jews or destroy Jewish property, that is probably illegal and you shouldn't.

 

[Y2K Baby]

It was started by the Jews.

 

[IV 445]

The wealth part does have merit. They also have the Holocaust as well, almost like it's both an oppressed minority and oppressive minority at the same time. The people making anti Semitic remarks, isit still wrong to do?

Eh, it has to wear off at some point. Africans were enslaved, past tense. If we are making a list of all the bad things man has done to each other, we better get a lot of paper....

However people making fun of other people’s misery are pretty low

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Also a question that should go hand-in-hand with this is why so many of the people who call the rest of us nazis and ree about the danger of bringing back the holocaust will also unashamedly show their own contempt for and distrust of jews. "Jews are scheming animals who run the world" seems to be a racist conspiracy theory that finds equal purchase on the left as on the right (or perhaps more so, given that the spotlight actively avoids looking at them when they do it) no matter how many other comments about racial/ethnic differences elicit from them an automatic outraged "you can't say that" along with a call to your employer.

 

[BeanBidan]

Also a question that should go hand-in-hand with this is why so many of the people who call the rest of us nazis and ree about the danger of bringing back the holocaust will also unashamedly show their own contempt for and distrust of jews. "Jews are scheming animals who run the world" seems to be a racist conspiracy theory that finds equal purchase on the left as on the right (or perhaps more so, given that the spotlight actively avoids looking at them when they do it) no matter how many other comments about racial/ethnic differences elicit from them an automatic outraged "you can't say that" along with a call to your employer.

The reason the left hates Jew's is because they believe Jew's are white. And we all know it's the current year and obviously you cant be racist towards whites.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

The reason the left hates Jew's is because they believe Jew's are white. And we all know it's the current year and obviously you cant be racist towards whites.

But then they can't claim that all the nazis are an impending threat to jews.

 

[BeanBidan]

But then they can't claim that all the nazis are an impending threat to jews.

The claim Nazis are an impending threat to brown skins and fags

 

[Moral_Equivalent_of_ISIS]

Judaism is as much an ideology as a religion

I mean, It depends heavily on where you lay the dividing line between ideology and religion, Judaism has a huge number of rules, but there's a lot more dispute about how to follow them than in a religion like islam which has a tighter set of rules and adheres to them more strictly. Another issue with the religious connection is that ultra-religious jews hate money, israel, and corporations with a fiery passion. (Which is why it's funny when /pol/ posts pictures of ultra-religous Jews on phones saying 'shut it down' and 'die for israel' and shit. The guys in funny hats hate Israel)

And in it, the Torah emphasizes intelligence and wisdom.

The torah isn't really as much of a singular document as the new testament, book of Mormon, Quran, et. cetera. There's the old torah, (which is just the old testament) genesis through Deuteronomy, and that's as much a part of christian tradition as Jewish, so I'm not sure why only Jews would get the advantage of this. There's also the much larger group of rabbinical traditions and scholarship associated with the torah. The rabbinical tradition has much more emphasis on wisdom and learning, but it's also a lot looser and isn't particularly organized or streamlined. Its really a collection of random Jewish outlooks on life.

This is also similar to the history of Jews, living in slavery, wilderness, always beating the odds. If underhanded tactics can ensure the survival of your people? So be it.

Many ethnic groups have suffered slavery (African Americans, gypsies), wilderness (aboriginals, native Americans) and genocide, but aren't really in a similar position to jews in modern society. Even some subgroups of Jews aren't as well off as people think: the 'Mizrahi' Jews who lived in the arab world aren't very well represented among high level corporations or the worlds most wealthy. There's even a subgroup of Ethiopians who are Jewish (religiously, not ethnically), and follow Jewish laws, yet they were nowhere near other Jews in terms of influence in their society. (They had to get airlifted out of Ethiopia because the surrounding villages attacked, now they all live in Israel) Almost the entirety of people's view of Jews as being wealthier than average and controlling big corporations, is really a view of Ashkenazim Jews, the Jews who migrated to Germany and Central Europe. So I'm not sure that the whole biblical history and the influence of the Torah is relevant.
Also 'underhanded tactics' aren't always what you think they are. For instance, many people believe that Jews had a leg up in the middle ages because they weren't subject to the christian concern for Usury, so they profited from the innocent townsfolk. In reality though, the Jews were often merely being used by local lords, loaning and collecting money on the lord's behalf (so the lord could maintain standing with the anti-usury catholic church) and then acting as a scapegoat when the townspeople fell into too much debt.

This is why you’ll see Jews give other Jews a leg up in fields (Elena Kagen, current SCJ, was known to abuse this in her academic positions) Is it an advantage? Sure. Unfair? I suppose.

Do they? That's a bit of a wild claim, for a number of reasons. For one: even minorities that are given a mandatory leg up through affirmative action have quite a lot of trouble becoming CEOs and CFOs. How many black executives are there compared to Jewish execs? Its hard to reach the top consistently, no matter what help you get. For another, aren't (for instance) black communities at least as tightly knit as Jewish ones are? How come cooperation only works for one group? And finally, if Jews really are just hoisting one another up, what accounts for all their success in purely quantitative fields? You can't nepotism your way to a proper understanding of surface calculus. If you look up the success of Jews in math and physics it's arguably greater than in areas like Law, which are easier to appear good in due to connections.

(plus, I'm a kike, and I'm still doing blue-collar retard work. Why haven't I gotten my free Jewish CEO job? )