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[Vagivagal Syncope]

How can I get you to understand that Jon is not gender dysphoric?

How about that all of what he did was just a grift and nothing more?

If you think anything he did was anything other than a ploy to drag money out of unfortunate people, you're fooling yourself.

Go ahead and argue all you like. I personally think both you and Koresh are making pointless arguments. Jon's issue is nothing to do with transgenderism, his face symmetry, or where he is on the spectrum, and everything to do with being a racist, bigoted, sociopathic individual who tried to use a flavour of the month social issue to make money by entrapping hard working individuals.

No, I am not.
Kleinfelter Syndrome has nothing to do with XYY Syndrome.

Well, the fact that around 20% of autists are depressed and the rate of depression among gender-dysphoric autists (and neurotypical trannies) is even higher I highly doubt there is such thing as a 'estrogen euphoria'.

Depression Diagnosis Accompanies ASD in 20% of Young Adults

Almost 20% of young people with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) also were diagnosed with depression in a study that tracked participants into their 20s.

www.mdmag.com

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

WHO CARES

This is supposed to be about Jonathan not you guys' theories about autism, asymmetry, and whatever other shit you're babbling about.

 

[Vagivagal Syncope]

I hear you. But I don't think it's worth it to go down that rabbit hole.

Maybe he's on corticosteroids. Even the photos in the liquor store look to me like a person who has taken anti-inflammatory steroids. Look at his upper back and that buffalo hump he has. He wasn't like that when he was tooling around conferences as "Jonathan" years ago.

Corticosteroids would also give him cravings, and alter his satiety, give him moobs, and distribute fat in an atypical way. It can also round out his face (moon-face) and some people occasionally experience a Bell's Palsy-type reaction while on them due to systemic stress. But people who take those don't try and rip off minorities while they're on them.

I personally think the symmetry thing is pointless. There's just too much assumption going on based on the guys face.

Eh, I was just saying my own personal assumption because of how he acted on streams I've seen. I didn't mean to imply "YES HE IS 100% FIRMLY AUTISTIC THIS IS THE SCIENCE." I never said that he was autistic because he's ugly. If you reread my post, I explained that high functioning autism and NPD present themselves in similar behaviors that are displayed by Yaniv. People were discussing facial asymmetry in troons, I added information that was pertinent then added that Yaniv might fit under that. I don't know what the issue with that is considering that this is a forum where discussion like that is common. Maybe I didn't write my original post clearly, but I also think that people aren't reading what I actually said.

 

[W00K #17]

I hear you. But I don't think it's worth it to go down that rabbit hole.

Maybe he's on corticosteroids. Even the photos in the liquor store look to me like a person who has taken anti-inflammatory steroids. Look at his upper back and that buffalo hump he has. He wasn't like that when he was tooling around conferences as "Jonathan" years ago.

Corticosteroids would also give him cravings, and alter his satiety, give him moobs, and distribute fat in an atypical way. It can also round out his face (moon-face) and some people occasionally experience a Bell's Palsy-type reaction while on them due to systemic stress. But people who take those don't try and rip off minorities while they're on them.

I personally think the symmetry thing is pointless. There's just too much assumption going on based on the guys face.

The only thing about him that his face tells us for 100% certain is that he's a fugly dude.

 

[Mockjoe71]

Latest update... His court case was thrown out. He was ordered to pay $2,000 to three respondents and the case was dismissed. Hopefully now people will see him for what he is worth...

 

[Super Colon Blow]

I said he was prescribed it. He showed his prescription on the stream with Blaire White.

I thought it was well known that taking hormones gives people "highs' of some sorts. For women on testosterone, it increases focus and concentration. For men, it makes them euphoric. I can't describe it myself because I've never done it. This is just what I've been told and if you go through any gathering of troons online, you'll find plenty of testimony towards that. Below are studies that back up what I said and, as little as it counts, I drew a lot from my own experiences. If you scan around the farms, there are others who will say similar things due to their personal experiences.

I didn't say that estrogen was linked to autism. I said that he has some characteristics of men with low estrogen.

I don't know what you're googling, but just by googling "Autism transexual estrogen" I got several articles. Here's probably the most trustworthy non-biased one I could find that shows that autism does change how you respond to estrogen. There are plenty more out there just from a quick scan of google. I can't remember the name of the specific medication, but if you listen to the testimony of detransitioners, many will say that the moment they got their anxiety treated or some other mental issue, their dysphoria stopped. This was common practice years ago for people who wanted to undergo gender transitioning at non-informed consent clinics to be checked for other mental illness, get those managed and medicated, and only then are they allowed to transition.

As for the autism facial asymmetry, this is also well known I thought. There are many studies on this and anyone who's been around lots of autists can attest to this. Hell, just scroll through this website. Many lolcows look similar.

When you say taking hormones, do you mean cross-sex hormones? Menopausal women on HRT get no euphoria or other high. They simply manage to hang onto some of their sex drive, most of their memory, and the ability to sleep through the night instead of hot flashing awake every 15 minutes.

Edit: Women on birth control pills also get no high. I would not count bloating as a high, lol.

When it comes to Jonny boy, God only knows what drugs he is on, legal or illegal. I think his biggest high is from ripping people off and/or stressing them out. And getting attention. That's gonna be his dopamine rush.

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

Latest update... His court case was thrown out. He was ordered to pay $2,000 to three respondents and the case was dismissed. Hopefully now people will see him for what he is worth...

Welcome to a week ago. Jesus Christing fuck, it's on the front page you dipshit.

 

[Spastic Colon]

When you say taking hormones, do you mean cross-sex hormones? Menopausal women on HRT get no euphoria or other high. They simply manage to hang onto some of their sex drive, most of their memory, and the ability to sleep through the night instead of hot flashing awake every 15 minutes.

Edit: Women on birth control pills also get no high. I would not count bloating as a high, lol.

When it comes to Jonny boy, God only knows what drugs he is on, legal or illegal. I think his biggest high is from ripping people off and/or stressing them out. And getting attention. That's gonna be his dopamine rush.

I firmly believe the estrogen euphoria is pure placebo effect + delusion. They think it will do that (bc that's what other troons online say) and that the estrogen is turning them into true and honest women and so it magically does make them happier. Until reality creeps back in and then they 41 themselves.

 

[troon patrol]

I'm no medical doctor but, hormones in general cause wild mood swings, testosterone is known to cause roid rage. estrogen, just mood swings similar to PMS.

 

[pr3nt177]

I'm no medical doctor but, hormones in general cause wild mood swings, testosterone is known to cause roid rage. estrogen, just mood swings similar to PMS.

jonny shows both, grumpy whilst cane bashing folks

 

[Spastic Colon]

I'm no medical doctor but, hormones in general cause wild mood swings, testosterone is known to cause roid rage. estrogen, just mood swings similar to PMS.

For me at least, mood swings during PMS are mainly weepy and irritable/angry. Never felt euphoria. In fact, estrogen levels drop at the end of your period and that is the only time I have ever felt anything close to euphoria. Although, I think of it as relief -- not feeling good, just going back to normal.

 

[wabbits]

There's a separate thread on Yaniv's health claims and conditions: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jys-munchie-saga.58730/

 

[basilthebear]

Eh, I was just saying my own personal assumption because of how he acted on streams I've seen. I didn't mean to imply "YES HE IS 100% FIRMLY AUTISTIC THIS IS THE SCIENCE." I never said that he was autistic because he's ugly. If you reread my post, I explained that high functioning autism and NPD present themselves in similar behaviors that are displayed by Yaniv. People were discussing facial asymmetry in troons, I added information that was pertinent then added that Yaniv might fit under that. I don't know what the issue with that is considering that this is a forum where discussion like that is common. Maybe I didn't write my original post clearly, but I also think that people aren't reading what I actually said.




Everyone with Klinefelter is an XXY male. That is the cause of it. You're a buffoon. Not all people with XXY have Kleinfelter. See Pad Gardner. But everyone with Klinefelter is XXY.

I just posted proof that it's enough of a thing that it's common within the MTF community. Even doctors know about it. FTMs have their own version of it, and doctors explicitly tell FTMs about it. Again, you're a buffoon. Euphoria does not equal no depression. Depression is a chronic thing, euphoria is short lived. If it is not, then it is mania.

Edit: I never meant to imply that Yaniv is GD. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't it doesn't matter. The posts prior to mine were about troons looking similar in general. I said added that it's because autists look similar, then said that Yaniv may fall under that umbrella. There was context, both of you are saying that I've said things that I haven't, and I really recommend rereading my post and the posts prior to see that context and also see what I actually said and stop inserting things that I didn't say while claiming that I said them. This has been an autistic waste of time because everyone is jumping to assumptions about what others are saying.

XYY not XXY

 

[Super Colon Blow]

For me at least, mood swings during PMS are mainly weepy and irritable/angry. Never felt euphoria. In fact, estrogen levels drop at the end of your period and that is the only time I have ever felt anything close to euphoria. Although, I think of it as relief -- not feeling good, just going back to normal.

I hear MTF people say that estrogen makes them moody. It depends who's taking that estrogen. If that person is biologically male, like Jonny, I can imagine it wreaking havoc. A woman who doesn't produce much estrogen any more has better mood stability by taking HRT. How much of a particular hormone your body is designed to handle likely determines whether that hormone has a stabilizing or destabilizing effect on the person. If Jon is making his own testosterone AND taking estrogen on top of it, no spironolactone, that sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. Well, just look at him, lol. He's a fucking mess.

 

[Norman B. Normal]

It is literally called "HRT euphoria." Seriously, just go to any forum with MTFs, it's plastered everywhere.

Um. "HRT euphoria" is literally the excuse autogyno recruiters use to gaslight newly hatched eggs into believing that the reason they get rock-hard boners when they steal their sisters' underwear out of the hamper and try it on is because they're just so overjoyed that their true selves are coming out at last, and definitely NOT because they're actually psychologically damaged cross-dressing freaks who've spent their formative years being exposed to high-quality Eastern European shemale porn at levels our forefathers would have thought impossible just 20 years ago.

 

[Zeebie]

Um. "HRT euphoria" is literally the excuse autogyno recruiters use to gaslight newly hatched eggs into believing that the reason they get rock-hard boners when they steal their sisters' underwear out of the hamper and try it on is because they're just so overjoyed that their true selves are coming out at last, and definitely NOT because they're actually psychologically damaged cross-dressing freaks who've spent their formative years being exposed to high-quality Eastern European shemale porn at levels our forefathers would have thought impossible just 20 years ago.

I don't know any women on HRT who experience euphoria, most women of that age I know avoid HRT because of the hugely increased risk of strokes, heart attacks and cancer it brings. The majority of women I know that age are pleased that the ups and downs of the menstrual years are behind them.

 

[wabbits]

Found the screen shot @Kirkorov made of the meds packet Yaniv held up during his August stream with Blaire White:

Click for biggun

The 2mg of estradiol is a low dose, but he could have been taking it more than once a day. Packet is marked "Morning."

 

[JY's Tampon]

Putting fliers up in heavily monitored places isn't the best idea.

Spoiler: Flyer

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Um. "HRT euphoria" is literally the excuse autogyno recruiters use to gaslight newly hatched eggs into believing that the reason they get rock-hard boners when they steal their sisters' underwear out of the hamper and try it on is because they're just so overjoyed that their true selves are coming out at last, and definitely NOT because they're actually psychologically damaged cross-dressing freaks who've spent their formative years being exposed to high-quality Eastern European shemale porn at levels our forefathers would have thought impossible just 20 years ago.

Or it's duper's delight.

Never trust anything self-reported by a troon. The vast majority of the """medical""" stuff they talk about is bullshit designed to get their own way. See Jonny here as a perfect example.

 

[pr3nt177]

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