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Jordan Peterson really put on a new coat to get popular with the Americans. When he was living and teaching here in Canada he was never particularly religious. It seemed his books popularity totally went to his head. This and the weird obsession with trans people and the feminists - again, he never talked about this shit before. He used to make appearances on the Agenda with Steve Paikin (Canadian show) years ago and his talking points were about the economy and healthy family relationships and so on. He didn't even seem all that conservative back then either
Peterson's almost assuredly an atheist (emphasis on the lowercase 'a'), with agnostic being a distant-second possibility. His religious affectations always come across as phony, and he never staight-up describes himself as a believer in anything but the postmodern sense of "well, they're all stories, but they're true anyway, and you don't want Communism" type of non-belief that offers a dead giveaway that any profession of religiosity is fundamentally hollow.

Peterson's not the only atheist who pretends to be into religion. Obama and Trump both did the same thing (Obama was probably just happy those retards and frauds who said he was born in Kenya never mentioned that Barack Sr. was an open apostate), and it worked out easily for all three. Questioning someone's religious beliefs is almost as impolite as questioning their sexualities, but that doesn't change the fact that these people are still obviously lying, and an uncountable number of incredulous enablers are assisting them the whole way.

Jordan Peterson is to Christianity what Justin Bieber is to Heterosexuality.

 

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The religion piece is a front, I agree. Pretending to promote Christianity and the ''Anything better than Communism!!'' is just to indoctrinate younger people who are fans of Jordan's phony persona to keep beefing up the power of central banks and unbridled capitalism.

Not sure why he keeps talking about ''men to step up and lead'' - isn't he just basically following the policies of this individual?
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The religion piece is a front, I agree. Pretending to promote Christianity and the ''Anything better than Communism!!'' is just to indoctrinate younger people who are fans of Jordan's phony persona to keep beefing up the power of central banks and unbridled capitalism.

It's also a really bad idea long run, If all you've got to defend yourself against Communism is a lie then you're fucked whenever anyone see's through it. Maybe that's some of those angry SJW's come from thinking on it-maybe someone enters freefall when they notice sky dad is unlikely.
 

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It's also a really bad idea long run, If all you've got to defend yourself against Communism is a lie then you're fucked whenever anyone see's through it. Maybe that's some of those angry SJW's come from thinking on it-maybe someone enters freefall when they notice sky dad is unlikely.
How do we know he's not really a Communist as well?

Think about it. He has a ton of Soviet propaganda art at his house. He is more obsessed with Communism than a tankie on Twitter. How do we know that he doesn't go to sleep at night and murmur about seizing the means of production in his sleep?
 
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I don't know why the evangelism piece is needed to appeal. Canadian Conservatives already support big business and cronyism just like American counter parts. They aren't that different in a fiscal sense.

I'm going to go on a rant here for a minute. Fiscal austerity imposed by conservatives didn't help Canada one bit. We now have more homelessness, crime and economic stagnation than ever before. People are on the brink of insolvency because of the ridiculous costs of housing and living. No Jordan, it's not ''Socialism'' - When Brian Mulroney got in bed with Ronald Reagan in the 1980's it was all down hill from there.
Wait......what?
 

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Peterson is clearly seeking personal divinity. He is appropriating Christian values as a foundation, in order to usher people to his particular sect. I've personally known his type. The type that pretend to 'work' every waking hour, to not waste a single minute of the day on petty foibles. They're always stealth megalomaniacs. At some point the holy act becomes the actor and they start believing their own mantra. It makes it much easier to grow the new religion when the person doing the preaching is a true believer. So the messenger succumbs hook line and sinker for his own circular logic. Peterson should declare himself Jesus reincarnated and be done with it. Vissarion in Siberia already has 50,000+ true followers and a model society that makes the Amish look disorganized.
 

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Tbh Maggie (and Rand too) were mannish women, in both their behaviour, self-identity (social circles) and ideals. I'm sure there are girly men whose accomplishments lean to the feminine too.

I have a pet theory that Peterson felt frustrated or bored by the grinding literalism of his (and similar 'sceptics') ideology and how it lives and dies in statistics, so indulged in a little Jungian-pattern subjectivity to bolster his mystique.
 

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I have a pet theory that Peterson felt frustrated or bored by the grinding literalism of his (and similar 'sceptics') ideology and how it lives and dies in statistics, so indulged in a little Jungian-pattern subjectivity to bolster his mystique.
I think it's far more cynical than that. I think he saw an opportunity to ride the wave of the anti-SJW cultural zeitgeist to fame and success, knowing that doing so would make up for all those years he's spent trapped in the boring mire of academia.

After all, why spend your time stating your case to tiny audiences of students and faculty members when you can instead state your case to millions? Why care about academic citations when you have the book sales to make up for it? For someone with a psychologist's background who fancies himself capable of diagnosing and treating the world's problems, this was pretty much a dream come true for him.
 

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I think it's far more cynical than that. I think he saw an opportunity to ride the wave of the anti-SJW cultural zeitgeist to fame and success, knowing that doing so would make up for all those years he's spent trapped in the boring mire of academia.

After all, why spend your time stating your case to tiny audiences of students and faculty members when you can instead state your case to millions? Why care about academic citations when you have the book sales to make up for it? For someone with a psychologist's background who fancies himself capable of diagnosing and treating the world's problems, this was pretty much a dream come true for him.
So he's a grifter. Got it.
 

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I think it's far more cynical than that. I think he saw an opportunity to ride the wave of the anti-SJW cultural zeitgeist to fame and success, knowing that doing so would make up for all those years he's spent trapped in the boring mire of academia.

After all, why spend your time stating your case to tiny audiences of students and faculty members when you can instead state your case to millions? Why care about academic citations when you have the book sales to make up for it? For someone with a psychologist's background who fancies himself capable of diagnosing and treating the world's problems, this was pretty much a dream come true for him.
I was going to say something similar. People were saying that he used to be more moderate in the past, and it's pretty obvious that he's targeting his rhetoric at the neckbeard demographic since he knows they'll donate to his crowdfunding. We laugh at some of what he says here, but he's laughing all the way to the bank. His fans are the real lolcows.
 
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The religion piece is a front, I agree. Pretending to promote Christianity and the ''Anything better than Communism!!'' is just to indoctrinate younger people who are fans of Jordan's phony persona to keep beefing up the power of central banks and unbridled capitalism.
He's not pretending to promote Christianity. He is promoting Christianity. It's just that his own belief is obviously hollow.

Scott Alexander was quite a bit kinder to JBP than most of us have been in this thread, but he noticed better than anyone how Peterson, though having quite a bit in common with C.S. Lewis, would've been despised by Lewis for following the orders of an agent of Satan created by Lewis:

Screwtape said:
Once you have made the World an end, and faith a means, you have almost won your man [for Hell], and it makes very little difference what kind of worldly end he is pursuing. Provided that meetings, pamphlets, policies, movements, causes, and crusades, matter more to him than prayers and sacraments and charity, he is ours — and the more “religious” (on those terms) the more securely ours.
I've yet to find a better summation of JBP, and this was written twenty-one years before he was born.

Tbh Maggie (and Rand too) were mannish women, in both their behaviour, self-identity (social circles) and ideals. I'm sure there are girly men whose accomplishments lean to the feminine too.


This makes sense. If only I could think of an example.

I think it's far more cynical than that. I think he saw an opportunity to ride the wave of the anti-SJW cultural zeitgeist to fame and success, knowing that doing so would make up for all those years he's spent trapped in the boring mire of academia.

After all, why spend your time stating your case to tiny audiences of students and faculty members when you can instead state your case to millions? Why care about academic citations when you have the book sales to make up for it? For someone with a psychologist's background who fancies himself capable of diagnosing and treating the world's problems, this was pretty much a dream come true for him.
Peterson's hatred of SJWs, and their ideology, is extremely sincere. It's one of the top things that attracts his fans to him.

Not that he's alone. Most people hate SJWs. They've primarily gottan as far as they have due to overrepresentation in positions of power and in the media, and by relying on fear and intimidation of people who don't like them personally but fear the alternative more. Peterson cuts through all that because he doesn't fear the alternative more; and because he's spent so long in academia and psychology, he knows all the tricks.

It doesn't stop him from being lazy and resting on his laurels rather than prepare when he has to deal with a proper challenge like Žižek, but it's worked so well and so often, he stopped thinking he needed anything else.
 

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He's not pretending to promote Christianity. He is promoting Christianity. It's just that his own belief is obviously hollow.

Scott Alexander was quite a bit kinder to JBP than most of us have been in this thread, but he noticed better than anyone how Peterson, though having quite a bit in common with C.S. Lewis, would've been despised by Lewis for following the orders of an agent of Satan created by Lewis:



I've yet to find a better summation of JBP, and this was written twenty-one years before he was born.




This makes sense. If only I could think of an example.


Peterson's hatred of SJWs, and their ideology, is extremely sincere. It's one of the top things that attracts his fans to him.

Not that he's alone. Most people hate SJWs. They've primarily gottan as far as they have due to overrepresentation in positions of power and in the media, and by relying on fear and intimidation of people who don't like them personally but fear the alternative more. Peterson cuts through all that because he doesn't fear the alternative more; and because he's spent so long in academia and psychology, he knows all the tricks.

It doesn't stop him from being lazy and resting on his laurels rather than prepare when he has to deal with a proper challenge like Žižek, but it's worked so well and so often, he stopped thinking he needed anything else.
Excuse me, do you think the man on the picture you posted is a girly man? He has long hair, but it was a style at some point. Other than that he is not feminine looking at all.
 

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Excuse me, do you think the man on the picture you posted is a girly man? He has long hair, but it was a style at some point. Other than that he is not feminine looking at all.
Actually, that was just me making a joke at the expense of a closeted celebrity.

Maybe I should've used a more contemporary example, but nothing came to mind.

 
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I watched some of Peterson's vids before he became the second Ben "Manlet with a small hat" Shapiro. Does anyone know if he's still on his cocktail of antidepressants? I remember seeing one of his old videos before the masses of paypigs arrived where he talked about all the psychotropics he is on. Ironically it was shortly before his new year's mental breakdown where he was crying in front of the webcam.

 
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I watched some of Peterson's vids before he became the second Ben "Manlet with a small hat" Shapiro. Does anyone know if he's still on his cocktail of antidepressants? I remember seeing one of his old videos before the masses of paypigs arrived where he talked about all the psychotropics he is on. Ironically it was shortly before his new year's mental breakdown where he was crying in front of the webcam.

Cocktail of antidepressants?
 

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In this incredibly boring interview he states that he is on at least one SSRI and an NDRI (Wellbutrin).


If you look close and compare to his current pics you can also see his hair before he got plugs.
That's not necessarily a cocktail, though.
 

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Funny about the video posted of him crying - to me his voice always sounds like he's going to cry. It sounds as though his voice is always getting weaker and more strained. He also keeps looking ''rougher''. I have wondered about his physical health, something I can't put my finger on there. Could be a chronic illness like M.S;
 

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Funny about the video posted of him crying - to me his voice always sounds like he's going to cry. It sounds as though his voice is always getting weaker and more strained. He also keeps looking ''rougher''. I have wondered about his physical health, something I can't put my finger on there. Could be a chronic illness like M.S;
He lost a lot of weight since going on his bizarro meat diet (detailed in a Joe Rogan appearance). He does look better/thinner, but has that wasting-disease type look. I assume his voice is struggling due to how much talking he does for his job, and that due to said stupid diet, he can't eat normal things like cheese or yoghurt to sooth his vocal chords.