Justice Department Files Long-Awaited Antitrust Suit Against Google - Long needed and awaited action

AnnLurker

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Money is used as a means to exert power, but its not the only source of power and it is not the best one. You can have all the money in the world, but if the other side has an army at their command, that money is nothing but a dead weight.
Which is why debt in America doesn't really matter. Yeah, we owe money, but we used it to make nukes to blow you up with it you try shit.
 

Sexual Chocolate

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So did Standard Oil.

Officially Standard Oil was trust busted due to its shady business practices, but I think the real motivation was to prevent too much power being concentrated in one company.

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Google is a much richer company than Standard ever was, and has a lot more political power through its ability to control what billions of people can see, hear, and share. Instead of fines or Section 230 reform, they should be broken up.
 

NumberingYourState

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True & Honest Fan
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I recently handed down a phone and used some spare cash saved up to buy a phone I can actually do rootless ungoogling on, sans the Play Store and shit I don't feel like bricking my new phone over to simply remove, just go ahead and not attend to GApps at all, or as little as possible.
 

Orange Rhymer

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Standard Oil's monopoly was the problem, not the Rockefellers being richer than Croesus. And RICO only applies if a crime was involved. Creating a monopoly, as far as I remember, isn't exactly a crime.
Good point. The monopoly needed to be corrected, not the wealth created.
However,
Google is nothing but criminal in it's actions. RICO is the way to go.
 

Coleslaw

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This is the opening salvo of a war that will take a decade to resolve. If not longer. Google will pull a Microsoft and string this along until they can find enough political backing to axe it. I will be shocked if this ends up in front of a jury ever, let alone before the end of this decade.

Still it's long needed and god speed to all the attorneys who will spend the rest of their careers on this.
Can you imagine being a juror in this case?
 

Aqua Panda

I've seen horrors… horrors that you've seen.
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Can you imagine being a juror in this case?

Depends.

If you're early in your career or unemployed, it's possibly a year+ worth of free money. (Most states pay you for serving and have laws where your job MUST accommodate you while serving. Aka they have to pay and can't fire you.) Also, you could potentially have a mini jackpot afterward selling your story. Book/media deals can be quite lucrative.

However, the downside is retaliation. Google has flat out wiped/suspended accounts for petty reasons in the past. Any future juror should backup any important files and possibly develop redundant backup accounts. Don't be suprised if the state tries to mandate the jury be anonymous to the public as its opening motion if things get to the trial phase.
 
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I'm still about 60% of the opinion that a bad (or at least underprepared) case is being rushed through because it's intended to fail and immunize Google against future attempts.
Hahah why would you think that? Have you been paying attention for the past three years or something?
 

Coleslaw

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Depends.

If you're early in your career or unemployed, it's possibly a year+ worth of free money. (Most states pay you for serving and have laws where your job MUST accommodate you while serving. Aka they have to pay and can't fire you.) Also, you could potentially have a mini jackpot afterward selling your story. Book/media deals can be quite lucrative.

However, the downside is retaliation. Google has flat out wiped/suspended accounts for petty reasons in the past. Any future juror should backup any important files and possibly develop redundant backup accounts. Don't be suprised if the state tries to mandate the jury be anonymous to the public as its opening motion if things get to the trial phase.
So there aren't laws against talking about jury service after it's over?
 

Aqua Panda

I've seen horrors… horrors that you've seen.
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So there aren't laws against talking about jury service after it's over?
Generally, no. It's a free speech thing. The government can't compel you to remain silent indefinitely. (As long as no classified information is at stake.)

Note: It IS possible to have a gag order for certain extreme cases or cases with minors. However, they usually have a hard limit for how long they last.
 

Fursei

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Since Voat is shutting down, I should bring up that Google basically delisted them from search results quite a while ago. About a year ago, I decided to look them up, but Google gave no main page results. (You can get some results with "site:" searching or some results from api.voat.co)

Related, vid.me was a video host whose videos never appeared in Google search results. I didn't know if it was incompetence on the site owner's part or if Google had delisted them as well.
 

Kosher Snake

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I'm still about 60% of the opinion that a bad (or at least underprepared) case is being rushed through because it's intended to fail and immunize Google against future attempts.
at this rate there's nothing stopping google, and its always gonna be lobbyism that gets them the last laugh(just like every other gigacorp)
 
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