I'm not saying I disagree but that's not actually what I meant. I meant that their go-to reaction is to appeal to authority to side with them. The state has to be on their side, the teacher, the press, the movie studio, the mob... it's the mentality that power isn't owned by the self, but owned by an authority that acts on your behalf. I think they hate it when "authority", even if it's just the decision makers at a movie studio, rules against them. And I mean hates it in a way the individualist doesn't think about. Power isn't about individual strength to them, but about being "right", that is to say, being thought to be right by society. Because then society will reward you and punish the other. There's something deeply weird about being so angry at others getting what they want. Almost as if they can't stand to see teacher listen to another pupil's point of view. They never achieved individual responsibility. It's all about the group.This so much. They still think in terms of "my X is so much more popular/expensive than yours" and "the cool kid cliques vs the vUrGiN nUrDs"