Kamran Pasha speculates an end to Chinese pandering. - Really?

Drag-on Knight 91873

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TL: DW: One of Midnight's Edge's recurring guests (don't worry, Tom and Rob are not in this video) argues that Hollywood will now stop trying to market films to the Chinese. Also, lol at John Cena as he made precisely the wrong choice to address Taiwan Numbah Won. At the end, he even postulates that Hollywood will return to making American-centric jingoistic movies where China is the big bad guy. The relationship between China and Hollywood has been cut.

First of all, I do not agree with his conclusion that Hollywood will go back to 70s-90s era of filmmaking. The reason why we say "Go Woke, Go Broke" is because at least two generations (Gen X and Millenials) of Western people have been indoctrinated with Howard Zinn history and think America is always bad. These people are aggressively ignorant and do not care about normal business practices like profit margins, customer relations, and brand management. It matters because like with Academia, Hollywood internships all the way to the presidents such as Amy Pascal and Kathleen Kennedy are the ones that propagate in Hollywood. Even if Pasha is correct in Hollywood severing the relationship with the Chinese, these people have zero interest in depicting America/UK/Germany/Whitey cultures as heroic. SJWs are also hard to liquidate in the West due to "Squeaky wheel gets the most grease" acquiescence.*

Second, 70s experimental films are niche films to today's audiences. Joker made the money it did because it tapped into the Superhero zeitgeist. Most modern character study-type films are about as profitable as Marriage Story or whatever indulgent independent film pretentious actors want to make. And TBH, woke artists love creating weird character studies of themselves. Mary Sue will become a hated genre of storytelling that Hollywood will make for mid-budget, actor driven movies. The spirit of 80s films are completely gone and it's most noticeable in any story that uses 80s nostalgia. There's not going to be any edgy movies critiquing society because any real criticism has to criticize woke society and the Karens that empower it.

Third, it doesn't matter what Hollywood says or does. They've defamed the domestic audience for disliking films like The Last Jedi, Terminator: Dark Fate, and Birds of Prey far too often to get these people back to the theaters. They're now seen as a CCP propaganda arm. One that demands exorbitant premiums for any of their services. They also cannot backtrack their TDS propaganda and criticize West Taiwan as Hollywood would have to admit that Trump was completely right about West Taiwan.

So what we'll probably see is even more woke propaganda out of Hollywood instead of sensible business decisions like course correction and making fun movies. They do not have the kind of people necessary to pull it off.

*Which makes me very jealous of "The nail that stick up gets hammered" thinking the East believes. Yes, yes, I'm aware that kind of conformity has problems too, but our pandering to Karens has not helped our society in the least.
 
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Blamo

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he even postulates that Hollywood will return to making American-centric jingoistic movies where China is the big bad guy.
You don't need that. If you want to provoke the Chinese just tap into their taboo subjects. A dramatization of the student protests of the late 80s early 90s. War movies about the Chinese civil war where we follow the Nationalist side. Remaking 7 years in Tibet. Making a movie about the horrors of the Great Leap Forward or the Cultural revolution. ETC.

Those will make Xi, seethe.
 

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If they finally realize China won't be a media cash cow forever, maybe. But I don't think they'll be bowing out until China has their famine continue to worsen or the big dam goes. Otherwise we'll be waiting for the whole age issue to take effect.
 

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TL: DW: One of Midnight's Edge's recurring guests (don't worry, Tom and Rob are not in this video) argues that Hollywood will now stop trying to market films to the Chinese. Also, lol at John Cena as he made precisely the wrong choice to address Taiwan Numbah Won. At the end, he even postulates that Hollywood will return to making American-centric jingoistic movies where China is the big bad guy. The relationship between China and Hollywood.

First of all, I do not agree with his conclusion that Hollywood will go back to 70s-90s era of filmmaking. The reason why we say "Go Woke, Go Broke" is because at least two generations (Gen X and Millenials) of Western people have been indoctrinated with Howard Zinn history and think America is always bad. These people are aggressively ignorant and do not care about normal business practices like profit margins, customer relations, and brand management. It matters because like with Academia, Hollywood internships all the way to the presidents such as Amy Pascal and Kathleen Kennedy, are the ones that propagate in Hollywood. Even if Pasha is correct in Hollywood severing the relationship with the Chinese, these people have zero interest in depicting America/UK/Germany/Whitey cultures as heroic. SJWs are also hard to liquidate in the West due to "Squeaky wheel gets the most grease" acquiescence.*

Second, 70s experimental films are niche films to today's audiences. Joker made the money it did because it tapped into the Superhero zeitgeist. Most modern character study-type films are about as profitable as Marriage Story or whatever indulgent independent film pretentious actors want to make. And TBH, woke artists love creating weird character studies of themselves. Mary Sue will become a hated genre of storytelling that Hollywood will make for mid-budget, actor driven movies. The spirit of 80s films are completely gone and it's most noticeable in any story that uses 80s nostalgia. There's not going to be any edgy movies critiquing society because any real criticism has to criticize woke society and the Karens that empower it.

Third, it doesn't matter what Hollywood says or does. They've defamed the domestic audience for disliking films like The Last Jedi, Terminator: Dark Fate, and Birds of Prey far too often to get these people back to the theaters. They're now seen as a CCP propaganda arm. One that demands exorbitant premiums for any of their services. They also cannot backtrack their TDS propaganda and criticize West Taiwan as Hollywood would have to admit that Trump was completely right about West Taiwan.

So what we'll probably see is even more woke propaganda out of Hollywood instead of sensible business decisions like course correction and making fun movies. They do not have the kind of people necessary to pull it off.

*Which makes me very jealous of "The nail that stick up gets hammered" thinking the East believes. Yes, yes, I'm aware that kind of conformity has problems too, but our pandering to Karens has not helped our society in the least.
I don't trust Kamran Pusha who literally treats Doomcock as a official source.
 

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People keep saying this and it won't fucking happen, whether be sucking to china or women in video games. The prime reason being that the American audience is almost entirely brain dead and will consoom shit no matter how bad its quality and how it hates them. There is no economic reason to appeal to them whatsoever, while China is (ironically) a far more competitive market and needs companies to actually put an effort to get their foot through the door.

Until this changes, you can expect every new film and game bending their ass backwards to appeal to China while blaming white people for crimes against humanity. Even if by some miracle the west would go against China, studios will just find another ruthless human right violating regime to suck up for.
 

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I think it's possible, but not plausible, if only because public perception of China is becoming more and more negative overall(not including the Taiwan/Hong Kong topic) to the point where supporting the PRC, as John Cena showed, is now a social faux pas. Still optimistic as hell though.
 

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I think it's possible, but not plausible, if only because public perception of China is becoming more and more negative overall(not including the Taiwan/Hong Kong topic) to the point where supporting the PRC, as John Cena showed, is now a social faux pas. Still optimistic as hell though.
I'm waiting for the death camp pictures to see if people really do give a shit about the ongoing genocide.
 

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I'm waiting for the death camp pictures to see if people really do give a shit about the ongoing genocide.
People don't, that was evidenced by society at large glossing over the overhead pictures of the camps and brushed off as migration facilities or other harmless equivalent. But our overstuffed migrant facilities are concentration camps.
 

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We should have separate markets. Any sane producer who saw how badly Disney did with their highly calculated and unbelievably lame live action remake of Mulan would just give up on China. Yellow bug people want awful blockbusters like The Great Wall and hyper-nationalistic trash like Wolf Warrior. The most they want from America is fucking Transformers: quickly moving CGI and noise and nonsense. They want to hear "China Numbah One" and don't care about much else.

And some great films have come from Chinese directors, don't get me wrong. (Never mind, most of them are from Hong Kong, lel.) But you're only going to get one film like Jet Li's Hero every once in a while. Most of it will be incomprehensible, jingoistic crap that nobody outside of China will appreciate or even understand.

I don't trust Kamran Pusha who literally treats Doomcock as a official source.

Hey, he works in Hollywood and refuses to shut his mouth about his actual beliefs. For me, that's worth a lot of respect.
 

InsolentGaylord

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We should have separate markets. Any sane producer who saw how badly Disney did with their highly calculated and unbelievably lame live action remake of Mulan would just give up on China. Yellow bug people want awful blockbusters like The Great Wall and hyper-nationalistic trash like Wolf Warrior. The most they want from America is fucking Transformers: quickly moving CGI and noise and nonsense. They want to hear "China Numbah One" and don't care about much else.

And some great films have come from Chinese directors, don't get me wrong. (Never mind, most of them are from Hong Kong, lel.) But you're only going to get one film like Jet Li's Hero every once in a while. Most of it will be incomprehensible, jingoistic crap that nobody outside of China will appreciate or even understand.



Hey, he works in Hollywood and refuses to shut his mouth about his actual beliefs. For me, that's worth a lot of respect.

I'm not even sure Doomcock is outright lying, rather just hearing false rumours or behind the scenes stuff that tends to be in flux anyway, so much of the time nothing does come of it.
 

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I'm waiting for the death camp pictures to see if people really do give a shit about the ongoing genocide.
Same
We should have separate markets. Any sane producer who saw how badly Disney did with their highly calculated and unbelievably lame live action remake of Mulan would just give up on China. Yellow bug people want awful blockbusters like The Great Wall and hyper-nationalistic trash like Wolf Warrior. The most they want from America is fucking Transformers: quickly moving CGI and noise and nonsense. They want to hear "China Numbah One" and don't care about much else.

And some great films have come from Chinese directors, don't get me wrong. (Never mind, most of them are from Hong Kong, lel.) But you're only going to get one film like Jet Li's Hero every once in a while. Most of it will be incomprehensible, jingoistic crap that nobody outside of China will appreciate or even understand.



Hey, he works in Hollywood and refuses to shut his mouth about his actual beliefs. For me, that's worth a lot of respect.

I'm not even sure Doomcock is outright lying, rather just hearing false rumours or behind the scenes stuff that tends to be in flux anyway, so much of the time nothing does come of it.
What I don't like about Karmen is he is hostile towards alternative entertainment. Like the Daily Wire for instance and just dismissing it. Claiming that no big names would jump aboard with that. Despite many rumors that there are more secret conservatives in Hollywood and honeslty I could see some just jumping ship. Especially as cancel culture becomes worse. Like dude doesn't even give it a chance basically because of a personal grudge. Seriously I just don't trust a person who tells me I should continue to consume contant form people who despise me unless I see actually change.

Edit: Also he dissed chuck Norris.
 
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Francis York Morgan

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The thing to remember about all these "Hollywood insider" types is that they're still people working in Hollywood. I bet there are some big wigs frustrated by the fact that they could release a two and a half hour film of Uncle Sam deepthroating Xi Jinping's dick and the CCP would still be unhappy because Xi's cock wasn't properly depicted. However, I'm sure he's spreading this about to suit either his own or someone else's agenda. Take everything an insider with entertainment or politics has to say with a grain of salt.
 

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Until this changes, you can expect every new film and game bending their ass backwards to appeal to China while blaming white people for crimes against humanity. Even if by some miracle the west would go against China, studios will just find another ruthless human right violating regime to suck up for.
Reminds me of the last month where people were defending Palestine over Israel, while half of the politicians running America’s government were pro-Israel.

They’ll only support China as long as there is monetary and power gains to usurp their power away from the U.S. as time goes on.
 

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And it sucks too. Since China pretty much runs death camps

It's kinda bittersweet tbh because the people in the death camps are the segments of society I don't really like.

Plus it's the Han running the show which as anyone else from that corner of the world knows is extra haram.
 

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People keep saying this and it won't fucking happen, whether be sucking to china or women in video games. The prime reason being that the American audience is almost entirely brain dead and will consoom shit no matter how bad its quality and how it hates them. There is no economic reason to appeal to them whatsoever, while China is (ironically) a far more competitive market and needs companies to actually put an effort to get their foot through the door.
This makes zero sense. If Amerifags gobbled up anything they were fed, that'd mean they wouldn't need Gynahbux to begin with, because American money would be guaranteed from the get-go.
 
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