Artcow Kelsey Lane Myers / Julien Lane Myers / uraniumania / kidaura / julimye - "Feminine gay trans man" who draws comical gay/trans porn, totally not a fujoshi, CWC fangirl

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She really needs to learn to draw arms away from the body in turnarounds.
 

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And to top it all off... we also have an ambigulously brown, non-binary spy.
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That turnaround has some serious issues. there's inconsistent hand size and arm length, whatever the fuck the upper body is doing in the side view, and the unclear silhouette of the front facing view. I'm assuming this was an assignment.
It doesn't help that these characters have roughly similar body proportions, so you probably can't tell these silhouettes apart. That and the confusing hair shape that overlaps and clutters the face.
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She did another turnaround earlier in the year, yet somehow the older one looks slightly more appealing by comparison.
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If someone posted this to one of those bikinidamage blogs they'd rip it to shreds due to thinking it's a big tiddy woman, lol.
From the boob window to the high heels. They're gonna have a real field day with this one.
 
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From the boob window to the high heels. They're gonna have a real field day with this one.
You know, there's so much talk about how clothes aren't gendered, dudes can be feminine, yadda yadda... that's all well and good, but I feel like 99.9% of the time when you see 'effeminate man' being drawn it's just this exact same shit that Kelsey does.
Yaoi fangirls equating the 'bottom' character as basically a girl, and a misogynistic parody of a girl (ditzy, bratty, petulant, bimbo, etc) at that.
 

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Been lurking, but I'm wondering which art college she's supposed to be going to? Is it just one of those expensive yet worthless ones that don't actually teach much? I saw one post saying it was SVA but I've no idea of its reputation. Knew someone that went to art school, small place that focused more on traditional art types, and at least there they did try to hammer in basic anatomy, gesture drawing, and naked model drawing too. If she's going to art school and literally seeing zero improvement than either she's not putting in the effort needed to actually improve or the school is a scam.

Might also depend on her department too, but I'd think anything to do with drawing would start with the basics anatomy/gesture drawing/real life models. It's important to have the basics down before starting to stylize, at least that's what my art friend has told me.
 

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i think the music based-ocs weren't never linked here on kf? i went to look their th profile and noticed they dfe'd all in it.
i think they don't use th anymore, as there's no link for it on their carrd.
i wanted to check how many of those were gay trans guys.
 

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For someone trying to talk like an authority about character design, Kelsey's character lineups are DISASTROUS. The only reason I can tell that the music ones are supposed to all be from one project are from the names, and if the individual names are supposed to inform the designs then they're not doing it very well.

With the first lineup, without the names, I have no idea if they're from a single project or not, and considering you have Hawaiian-flavored Asgore, Bimbo Disney-Hercules, and MLP-Rarity-in-pantaloons in the same lineup I find it concerning I can't tell if this is one project or not.

Her seeming like she wanted one character for every crayola marker in the 24 pack color wise isn't helping either, idk if she's trying to set tone or audience with the painfully consistent saturation but it's... it's not good. Nobody has any cohesion as a cast, every single one has the exact same level of detail and brightness and stuff so there's no way to tell if anyone is particularly important.

And the worst part about so much detail is that it's so much detail while communicating NOTHING. It's especially apparent with the music ones like I already mentioned, but design is supposed to give you instant information about a character and these don't do that; there's no practical details to tell you about their life, but for purely aesthetic outfits they really don't communicate much about theme either. Every character here I can't say much more than that they're supposed to be airheaded and bitchy and probably gay. Other than that, who the fuck knows?

These designs would have made my teachers cry. I'm sad now.
 

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For someone trying to talk like an authority about character design, Kelsey's character lineups are DISASTROUS. The only reason I can tell that the music ones are supposed to all be from one project are from the names, and if the individual names are supposed to inform the designs then they're not doing it very well.

With the first lineup, without the names, I have no idea if they're from a single project or not, and considering you have Hawaiian-flavored Asgore, Bimbo Disney-Hercules, and MLP-Rarity-in-pantaloons in the same lineup I find it concerning I can't tell if this is one project or not.

Her seeming like she wanted one character for every crayola marker in the 24 pack color wise isn't helping either, idk if she's trying to set tone or audience with the painfully consistent saturation but it's... it's not good. Nobody has any cohesion as a cast, every single one has the exact same level of detail and brightness and stuff so there's no way to tell if anyone is particularly important.

And the worst part about so much detail is that it's so much detail while communicating NOTHING. It's especially apparent with the music ones like I already mentioned, but design is supposed to give you instant information about a character and these don't do that; there's no practical details to tell you about their life, but for purely aesthetic outfits they really don't communicate much about theme either. Every character here I can't say much more than that they're supposed to be airheaded and bitchy and probably gay. Other than that, who the fuck knows?

These designs would have made my teachers cry. I'm sad now.
Reading a little more into it, the characters from the first lineup are DnD characters. Hawaiian Asgore for example is supposed to be a DRUID. You know, like these...
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Aren't DnD characters usually medieval/fantasy themed? Here we have a greek soilder, a boy scout, and a 1920's flapper: not exactly "medieval". Guess she didn't even bother to do research on the correct time period or genre, some of these outfits look too modern (especially the one on the fat yuan-ti girl). I mean, I will give her credit... least she tries to do something unique with these classes (even if it doesn't work).
 

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So this dude is going to school for animation, but he's not good at anatomy, or character design, or story writing, and he never really draws backgrounds...Is there anything fundamental to animation that he is good at?
 

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Also, funny how she gives Hazbin shit for for it's character designs
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Yet, take a good look at some of her own characters. Look at how much detail and clutter are in these designs All those belts, buckles, tassels, and random accessories. Doesn't exactly scream "animator friendly" to me.

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I fucking love it when people talk like they're an authority on something and they parrot rules told to them by their teachers and then they apply it and they break every rule they were talking about.

This is a thing that I enjoy.
 

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