Kingdom Come: White Ethnostate - When trying to get a dev fired fails, because he owns the studio.

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Takayuki Yagami

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i want to clarify a little more on this

this game is aiming to be historically accurate. this meant that the developers had to learn about various fighting techniques along with various weapons that were used. Not only this, they also had to find out what it was like being someone in the middle ages. I'm guessing they had to hire historians and experts to make sure that a lot of this stuff is correct and factually accurate.

One example of this is the fact that your character has no idea how to read. You can find someone to teach you how to read, but it won't really help you as much as you think it will considering not many other people knew how to read. Another example, you can't just go to a town and repair your armor. The town has to have an armorer in order for you to repair your armor.

Most of the issues that plague this game are technical. These include things like ridiculously long load times when talking to NPCs, massive texture pop in a trademark of the unreal engine , bad framerate in some areas, not using all the system resources available, save issues, and more. These people cannot afford to even give a shit about any of this. Even if they did, they probably wouldn't even care, I mean it's not like you're going to get penalized for not listening.

These people don't even play video games in the first place, they just bitch and complain for the sake of bitching and complaining.
The game is using CryEngine, not Unreal.
 

RomanesEuntDomus

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The autists at /r/KotakuInAction got you covered...

Twitter Thread, archived:
https://archive.md/JIWwV

KiA thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/7ysge4/pokéjungle_apologizes_for_a_staffers_comments/

Can't be bothered to take screencaps, or go looking for the live twitter thread (assuming it is still up) but it is pretty much what you'd expect anyways.
All these self-declared "poc supporters" do is insinuating that blacks have absolutely -NO- identity of their own.

Constantinople on pilgrimage to Spain
Madrid Constantinople Prague.png

It's 900 miles from Constantinople to Prague and another 1000 miles to Madrid. At their closest, they'd maybe travel through Venice, which would be more than 300miles away, and that is not accounting for terrain, roads, etc.

At this point, I have to take care not to become salty myself at this display of utter stupidity.

More apparent to me was the back-slapping laddishness revolving around bedding women. I'm pursuing a love story over here, while over there bedding a noble and having one-night stands. That's in addition to my Troubadour perk which makes me even more irresistible to women and lets me use the "bathwenches" for free, which ties into a key mechanic of keeping yourself clean and patched up. It also means I get the Alpha Male buff (+2 to Charisma) because I've been satisfied and apparently it shows. It literally says that. The game's Codex even feels the need to describe the ideal woman of the time: "a thin, pale woman with long blonde hair, small rounded breasts, relatively narrow hips and a narrow waist".
At this point I feel compelled to mention there's a medieval diary of a guy who went on a pilgrimage and despite the holy nature of his travels, there's 200 instances of him being intimate with women he met on said pilgrimage.

Also, what's wrong with describing what's (according to every piece of art, every image, every poem, every song and every sculpture) irrefutably true about this period?
Oh right, people back in the middle ages didn't like fat landwhale women with shovel-like hands that constantly fork food towards a gaping maw that's sitting under a huge plume of cyan-colored hair.

All of which means that a shadow lingers over Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Instead of challenging the Dark Age it reinterprets 615 years later, the game seems to delight in it
Honest question: What is wrong with that?

I don't know what's dumber: pointing to The Silk Road as an argument for black traders being in Bohemia when The Silk Road was Chinese and likely would be several times removed from its initial traders by the time it got there, or making up a hypothetical scenario with no historical evidence to back it up while never once considering that an unwed girl getting knocked up in the 1400s by an obviously foreign traveler might become a problem.
The silk road also wasn't a fucking highway all across Europe, the main part was between the mediterranean and modern day China, depending on the time period we talk about, it might have been even shorter.
 

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I listened to it. It's just "bitch bitch bitch", but here's a rundown (because :autism:):
  • Bitch about Witcher 3.
  • Historians can't be 100% sure there were no blacks in 1470 Bohemia, so might as well include them.
  • 22:25 Doesn't know if the Cumans were Turkish, says the map doesn't line up.
    • He doesn't seem to know the Cumans were a Turkic nomadic tribe. There's a difference.
    • An "Oh, no" when Danielle learns the Cumans wear masks (which is apparently accurate).
  • 27:30 Vavra saying "GamerGate had good ideas" = "gaslighting the narrative".
  • 34:45 They were streaming the Remothered game, but stopped when told it had transphobic stuff in it. Think it was part of their "professional responsibility".
  • 38:50 Harvester complaints. Harvester.
    • "Outright homophobia" and "really bad ableism".
  • 41:45 Vavra blew dog whistles to GamerGaters and racist white nationalists.
    • Guy also says he has 30-40 hours in Mount and Blade. That makes him a casual.
  • 48:00 Complaints about Crossing Souls, an indie game set in the 1980s.
    • Complains about racial stereotypes, fatphobia, and homophobia.
  • Waypoint took a stand on PewDiePie.

Waypoint thinks it actually matters in gaming, how cute. Also, if you wonder why most of these cunts hate capitalism, its because nobody buys their shit and they always lose. Somehow they think a corporate produced super-hero movie with huge appeal before a major movie event is an indication they're 'winning'. These people are so fucking stupid.

Oh and their haven, San Francisco, is lined with human shit and dirty needles.

no wonder it looks good but doesn't run that well

Why the fuck are people still using that buggy piece of shit. It has to be one of the worst mainstream engines. Is it super cheap or something?

The Silk Road went nowhere near Africa so i really doubt African nations would use it for trade...especially since they have the Mediterranean.

The darkest skinned people who used the Silk road were likely just bloody Indians and Turks.

Why can't people just accept that there weren't thousands of Dashiki's running around medieval europe

The laugh of it is there were probably more Asiatic peoples running around across Europe thanks to trade rather than blacks.
 

Old Wizard

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Watching Americans who have never looked at a map in their entire lives or taken a college-level European History course try to explain to a Czech man who has been educated in everything Czech since he was a baby that Africans ended up in Bohemia because of an Asian trade route that doesn't even go near it is quite a show.

The first racial minority in the Czech Republic was thought to be Egyptians, but with modern DNA tech we now know they're Indians. That was in the 17th century. This game takes place way before that.
 

MrTroll

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Why the fuck are people still using that buggy piece of shit. It has to be one of the worst mainstream engines. Is it super cheap or something?

Probably because it's good at forests and other large, open-ended naturalistic scenes. With the LOD and texture settings turned up it's really impressive to see highly-detailed fields and treelines stretching out far in the distance.
 

Munchingonfish

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"You just can't know nobody got sick and stayed a longer time," he says. "What if a group of black Africans came through and stayed at an inn and someone got pregnant? Even one night is enough for a pregnancy."

It's not conclusive proof but it's readily available doubt to undermine Warhorse's interpretation.

:story::story::story::story::story::story::story::story::story::story:

"We can't prove it, but a black person could've stayed there once. Therefore 90% of the game's population should be black."
 
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Watching Americans who have never looked at a map in their entire lives or taken a college-level European History course try to explain to a Czech man who has been educated in everything Czech since he was a baby that Africans ended up in Bohemia because of an Asian trade route that doesn't even go near it is quite a show.
It's almost like they're trying to force an Americanized viewpoint on a guy trying to accurately depict his homeland.

One might be able to call it "Cultural Imperialism" or something.
 

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An actually relevant question would be: "Where are the jews?" but since we're oh-so-focused on black people and their pwecious fee-fees, we can't ask legitimate questions. I guess.

I mean, maybe there will be some later on, but if I made a game like this, I would add a sidequest about a small group of jews getting into trouble for performing evil arts and some shit and in the end it turns out some trader is stirring up shit to get the jews expelled from the town since he's indebted to them.
I'd allow the quest to have multiple endings, basically one where you side with the jews and uphold the king's law that protects them or you side with the trader and get delicious medieval bitcoin.

It's almost like they're trying to force an Americanized viewpoint on a guy trying to accurately depict his homeland.

One might be able to call it "Cultural Imperialism" or something.
It's quite ironic how the most america-centred jingoists are now the self-declared protectors of minorities.
The sheer thought that their white guilt complex doesn't extend to people who have jack fucking squiddly to do with black slaves completely eludes them.
 
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Nazi vegeta

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:story::story::story::story::story::story::story::story::story::story:

"We can't prove it, but a black person could've stayed there once. Therefore 90% of the game's population should be black."

Maybe he meant: what if a group of blacks came in and raped some huwhite wimen? Lol that would be more believable.

Probably because it's good at forests and other large, open-ended naturalistic scenes. With the LOD and texture settings turned up it's really impressive to see highly-detailed fields and treelines stretching out far in the distance.

Yeah, crysis3 is still impressive to look at and it is 5 years old.
But still, cryengine is janky.
They would have been better off with ue4, maybe.
 

MrTroll

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Yeah, crysis3 is still impressive to look at and it is 5 years old.
But still, cryengine is janky.
They would have been better off with ue4, maybe.

I don't think UE4 was even available when they started developing. Besides, I'd say the jank is more a result of being a Kickstarter-funded indie game than anything wrong with the engine itself.
 

Nazi vegeta

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I don't think UE4 was even available when they started developing. Besides, I'd say the jank is more a result of being a Kickstarter-funded indie game than anything wrong with the engine itself.

Jank in the sense that the engine itself, is hard to use and mostly to optimize. Almost nobody uses it anymore, probably because of that too.
Even crytek themselves had problems. I remember crysis3 having inconsistent performance, even on some powerful pc and that was their own engine.
 

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That's what I never understand.

"Ok, it appears from the historical record there were 5 black people in the entire country"

"90% OF THE GAME MUST BE BLACK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE BLACK NPCs, ITS PROOF"

"Uh, I don't think you understand numbers."

(This would be different in reconquistia Spain or Scicily tho)

Same with

"Ok, LGBTQ is like less than 2% of the population"

"EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MEDIA MUST HAVE LGTBQ OR YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE"

Is it any wonder people are sick of this fucking shit? You're a minority, you aren't going to be explored in every single thing in the world. Its your fucking life choice. You want to be represented, do it your fucking self. Its nobodies responsibility but your own. Its just that they are whiny little faggot children who want it done for them and it is getting so. fucking. tiring.
 

Ineedahero

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I mean, maybe there will be some later on, but if I made a game like this, I would add a sidequest about a small group of jews getting into trouble for performing evil arts and some shit and in the end it turns out some trader is stirring up shit to get the jews expelled from the town since he's indebted to them.
I'd allow the quest to have multiple endings, basically one where you side with the jews and uphold the king's law that protects them or you side with the trader and get delicious medieval bitcoin.
I want it to go the darklands route, with accusations of sacrificing unbaptised babies and the like.
 

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An actually relevant question would be: "Where are the jews?" but since we're oh-so-focused on black people and their pwecious fee-fees, we can't ask legitimate questions. I guess.

There are Jews, apparently. Vavra got into a slap fight with Reeebecca about it (I went back ten pages looking for the tweets, but it might not have been in her thread). He has some Jewish ancestry and lives next to a Jewish cemetery. They may not self-identify (I haven't bought the final game yet), but they wouldn't necessarily.
 

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Still some salt from Twitter. On a phone so I can't post a screenshot.
https://twitter.com/queer_queenie/status/965698672368410625

Somehow not seeing Vavra as racist means you endorse racism and some other stuff about POC exclusion.
That's another SJW tactic. If you disagree about someone they deem "problematic", they'll denounce you as racist/sexist/etc. in an attempt to shame and humiliate you until you cave in (and even then, they'll never forgive you for your "transgression").
 

jauelu

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I really hope the creator doesn't get overwhelmed by all of those lowlifes with nothing better to do.
I was actually considering getting the game because it looks fun and I really like castles and medieval settings.
 
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