Kiwi Farms Media Mentions -

[Medicated]

Kf doesn't do anything. Literally the main rule here is to not touch the po.op. We're an aggregation, commentary, and shitposting site. We've kept up info when it might've been taken down otherwise but that's it. Like half the cows were doing stuff out in the open under their real names in the first place, and the other half left a pretty easy papertrail.

KF is virtually crowdsourced internet news with crowdsourced curation and peer analysis. This website is a better information source than 90% of the "news" websites out there that have paid ad's. And blows wikipedia out of the water when it comes to covering e-celeb persons of interest, since wikipedia makes sure only its fans and PR people curate their wiki article.

I wonder how many people who produce content actually get leads from kiwifarms, ED, and the like, because trying to actually properly document something is actually quite hard in this day in age, with websites being 90% opinion, wikipedia being a PC-friendly reference source for Buzzfeed, Salon, and advocate groups. I'm finding more often I'm getting information that is a google hit from an archive.md page or something similar, since the first rule these days is to scrub your internet footprint if you want to hide your past.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

I can't wait for the Oscar winning movie they make in 10 years about this site's efforts to dox the dogfuckers. Looking forward to seeing Ryan Reynolds visiting every local ice cream parlor to find some leads. A modern day Spotlight.

 

[buymygame]

The definition of “far right” by media think pieces just keeps getting broader and broader.

Quantity over quality.

 

[plastic holic]

Kiwi Farms, the Web’s Biggest Community of Stalkers

That cannot be a real headline.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

That cannot be a real headline.

It makes us sound like 'There's Something About Mary'.

 

[BustyLady]

Why is anyone that doesn't take it up the ass from SJW hitpiece rags consider the "alt-right"? How dare you be anything but 150% politically correct all time, you RACISTS?!

And you know now that I think of it, why is kiwi farms always depicted as this den of creepy Internet bully stalkers? The majority of posts on this site are reporting's of lolcow happenings and reactions to them. How is lolcow culture in anyway different then celebrity gossip culture?

 

[FriendlyNeighborhoodDaddy]

Nothing will top some Medium.com writer solemnly defining "tard cum" for the uninitiated.

But there seem to be to be two major trends in writing an article on KF:

1.) If we don't like you, you're "far-right" (just pretend the threads on Milo, Zyklon Ben and Richard Spencer don't exist)

2.) Say anything mean about a troon, no matter how vile they are as an individual, you're "transphobic".

 

[buymygame]

why is kiwi farms always depicted as this den of creepy Internet bully stalkers?

For the same reason 4chan is a single entity that hacks poor innocents and stops blacks from entering the local pool with an A4 piece of paper.

They don't like it so they explain it in such a way that it deters others from even thinking of laying their eyes on it.

 

[Dysnomia]

We got cited in a PhD thesis this year. We might get published in a peer reviewed academic journal soon!

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kiwi-farms-cited-in-thesis-for-doctorate-of-philosophy.48341/

Ah yes. I remember that. I knew I'd make my mark in the world of academics someday.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

How is lolcow culture in anyway different then celebrity gossip culture?

The subjects of our conversations are a lot uglier.

 

[Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.]

Nothing will top some Medium.com writer solemnly defining "tard cum" for the uninitiated.

But there seem to be to be two major trends in writing an article on KF:

1.) If we don't like you, you're "far-right" (just pretend the threads on Milo, Zyklon Ben and Richard Spencer don't exist)

2.) Say anything mean about a troon, no matter how vile they are as an individual, you're "transphobic".

If you were here during the Sluthate thread, we were the opposite.
KF was a pack of blue pilled liberal cucktards white knighting the feminist agenda and defending the left.

See, that’s the thing. We’re not the alt right, and we’re not communists, and we’re not centrists or liberals or conservatives or transphobes or cultural marxists. We’re accused of all these things by different groups, but the end result of every objection is “they aren’t me”.
We pick on /pol/ and Sluthate and incels, so we’re bluepilled feminists.
We pick on the rat king, so we’re alt right fascists.

The real beauty of KF is that we are here to piss in your cornflakes regardless of who you are or what you believe in. It’s not a function of politics, it’s a function of being contrarian assholes looking for a laugh.
The idea that we do this for fun is unconscionable and scary, so cows have to ascribe some great meaning to it all.
The reality is that there is no Santa Claus, we don’t give a shit to begin with, and we’re doing it for the sake of starting some shit.

 

[AnOminous]

The idea that we do this for fun is unconscionable and scary, so cows have to ascribe some great meaning to it all.

The fact that they're laughable idiots and a joke to us all is literally inconceivable to them. We must be some vast conspiracy opposed to whatever their ideology is because whatever stupid shit they're doing that got our attention is just so very fucking important.

 

[HG 400]

You guys speak for yourselves, I'm doing this for communism.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

We must be some vast conspiracy opposed to whatever their ideology is because whatever stupid shit they're doing that got our attention is just so very fucking important.

That hilarious moment when they stop naming the Jew and start naming us.

 

[UtopiaGuy]

The reality is that there is no Santa Claus, we don’t give a shit to begin with, and we’re doing it for the sake of starting some shit.

TBH, I was kind of sad to learn the truth about Santa. All that time I spent, trying to be good, all for nothing!

 

[Cool kitties club]

The idea that we do this for fun is unconscionable and scary, so cows have to ascribe some great meaning to it all.

Wait so we aren't trying to stop reddit trannies from playing video games

 

[CatParty]

Politics are tearing tech companies apart, says new survey

archived 1 Mar 2019 12:56:37 UTC

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Silicon Valley lends itself to political stereotypes–called overly progressive by conservatives and overly conservative by progressives. A new survey of 1,924 tech workers around the U.S. indicates that neither view is quite right but why both are so prominent.
In the poll of workers across the tech industry, conducted by survey company Morning Consult and commissioned by the conservative-leaning nonprofit Lincoln Network, about a quarter of respondents identified as having very strong views (14% left, 11% right). A third called themselves moderate, and equal shares (18% each) identified as mainstream liberal or conservative. Just 3% identified as libertarian, challenging a stereotype of tech bro culture.
Among those surveyed, 45% say that their company promotes a political agenda. That leaning tends to be toward the left, with 48% of respondents saying their company has a clear liberal agenda, as opposed to the 38% who reported a conservative agenda.




Whether they agree or disagree with their company’s politics, fear about ideological conflicts with colleagues runs across all political groups: very liberal, liberal, moderate, conservative, very conservative, and libertarian.

Nearly half of employees at companies with political agendas said their ideological views impacted their ability to work. At companies perceived to have a political agenda, 63% of workers said that ridicule in the workplace is commonplace if you disagree with a colleague, while only 21% said that happens at their apolitical companies.
Two thirds of participants worked at privately held tech companies, and a third at publicly traded ones. Among the biggest companies were Amazon, Apple, AT&T, Dell, Facebook, Google, Intel, Microsoft, Qualcomm, Salesforce, Samsung, and Twitter. Among those who took part, 84% worked in a technical role, 75% identified as male, and 49% were between 30 and 44 years old.


Lincoln leans conservative: Its leaders have been active in Republican politics, and they launched the survey effort in 2017 “to collect data on potential anti-conservative bias in Silicon Valley.” Still, it claims to have no influence on the data itself. “Morning Consult, as an independent party, collected all of the quantitative data,” says Lincoln cofounder Garrett Johnson, who worked for Florida governor Jeb Bush and Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana.

Lincoln also conducted an online survey of a few dozen tech workers to solicit opinions and anecdotes, similar to its contentious survey from 2017-2018. Some of those quotes pepper Lincoln’s report on the Morning Consult survey. “I am happy, with the exception of my time at work where I feel like the choices I have made in my beliefs label me as stupid, a bigot, deplored, and more . . . ” one anonymous tech worker wrote. “I am coming to the conclusion that we cannot live or work together any longer.”
In an op-ed for Fox News on Thursday, Johnson echoed his previous complaints about bias against conservatives in tech, saying the new data “confirm a stunning level of viewpoint intolerance in the tech community,” and “reveal an epidemic of polarization and intolerance in Silicon Valley and the broader tech community [that] presents an important opportunity for tech leadership to cultivate a culture of viewpoint inclusion.”
But I’ve also interviewed a handful or workers from major tech companies–on and off the record–over the past year, who have provided some insight on the results that are more nuanced than Johnson’s focus on bias. And when I spoke with a few survey respondents who agreed to an interview, I found their stories of discrimination less severe than appeared in the short comments gathered by Lincoln Network. Still, they do see their workplaces as much more friendly to colleagues who are openly left than even a bit conservative. (Workers spoke on condition of anonymity due to concern about backlash from colleagues.)


“Most people will make choices about how they’re going to talk about politics based on the culture and based on their management,” says a Microsoft engineer who identifies as libertarian. “Some people make the choice that they don’t care at all, and they think their management won’t care, and they’re very open about it. Other people look at it in terms of risk and reward and pick various levels of engagement based on that.”

Perhaps no big company has a more contentious environment than Google, which brims with online forums for discussion and debate, including an internal social network and a meme generator. There is also a profusion of lightly moderated or un-moderated discussion lists where a few enthusiastic members post prodigiously, such as “politics,” “industryinfo,” and “eng-misc” (nicknamed “cringe-misc” by some).
James Damore, the erstwhile Google engineer who authored the highly controversial “Ideological Echo Chamber” memo that many saw as questioning the innate ability of women to be engineers, created a list called pc-harmful-discuss. The discussion group lived on after he was fired in August 2017, with no one in control, says a former Googler.
This dovetails with one fascinating finding in the survey. Overwhelming majorities of all political orientations–between 87% (very conservative) and 95% (libertarian) agreed that “companies in general should foster a diversity of viewpoints.” But groups with the strongest viewpoints also agreed most with the statement, “companies should terminate employees when they express offensive views outside the workplace.” (Emphasis added.) That was true for 52% of very conservative employees and 62% of very liberal employees in the survey.


Absent in these theoretical questions are the details of how dirty some debates inside companies can get–at least at Google, where internal discussions were leaked to radical media and trolls in 2017.

“I and seven other Google employees were publicly blamed by individuals, such as Milo Yiannopoulos, for James Damore’s firing, and that resulted in death threats,” says Liz Fong-Jones, an 11-year Google employee who recently left the company. Fong-Jones is transgender, and was already a target of the anonymous online community Kiwi Farms, which specializes in trolling and defaming members of the trans community.
“That’s obviously very bad,” says a right-leaning Google engineer who opposed Damore’s firing, but agrees with Google’s progressives on some other issues. “[I am] appalled at the $90 million payout for Andy Rubin and all the sexual harassment going on with Google,” he says. Rubin received the payout when terminated for charges of sexual misconduct, part of a larger pattern among Google execs revealed in a 2018 New York Times exposé.
In addition, the engineer was against Project Dragonfly, a censored and monitored search product for the Chinese market, but not Project Maven, an AI contract with the U.S. military–also opposed by Google progressives. That left him with a dilemma: Opposition to Maven was mentioned in an employee petition against Dragonfly. “I really wanted to sign this petition, but Project Maven is why I didn’t,” he says.

FEARS VS. REPERCUSSIONS
There are prominent cases of employees on the progressive side, such as Liz Fong-Jones, facing repercussions for their political or ideological speech–from fellow employees, and from management, based on voluminous reporting in Wired, Gizmodo, The Intercept, and others.
On the other side, I’ve spoken with many conservatives over the past year who fear retaliation from their progressive-leaning coworkers and management–be it firings, negative performance reviews, or other measures. But I’ve not found clear-cut cases to back up these fears. Often people say only that they know someone who is affected.
Secondhand accounts show up in the Lincoln Network/Morning Consult survey, too. At agenda-driven companies, very conservative people were most likely (48%) to agree with the statement: “I know someone who did not pursue or left a career in tech because of perceived ideological conflicts with their company.” (Very liberal was the second-highest group of employees who agreed, at 39%.)
Some participants in Lincoln’s Survey Monkey poll reported instances of people being fired or hired solely based on politics, but none were available or willing to speak with me. One who did talk told the story of a Microsoft employee who was harassed at work over her husband’s politics. When we discussed it, he explained, “I think it was more of an individual thing. I think there was one particularly rowdy person in general.”
That doesn’t mean there isn’t discrimination against conservatives in tech, but neither the survey nor my conversations have been able to pinpoint it. A question I’d love to see in a future survey is whether participants feel they have personally suffered repercussions for their views.
MANAGEMENT SETS THE TONE
Another key divide is between those companies whose leadership jumps into the political and ideological fray and those that at least try to stay out. According to the Lincoln Network/Morning Consult survey, 91% of employees at companies that workers describe as nonpolitical feel they can work in peace. Whereas at companies that employees describe as promoting a political agenda, 49% of employees feel that their ideological views affect their ability to do their jobs.

It’s hard for tech companies to stay out of politics completely, especially as they work on controversial government contracts. Google has learned this the hard way, as has Microsoft. Last summer, the software giant faced an employee petition against its cloud computing contract with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Now it faces a likely bigger employee backlash over a contractto sell its HoloLens augmented reality headsets to the U.S. military. Opponents, known as Microsoft Workers 4 Good, report collecting hundreds of signatures in an open letter demanding the company cancel the contract and cease developing weapons technologies, among other measures.
It seems that conflicts like these will keep happening, but they may not tear a company apart. “I don’t think most people are looking to pick a fight at the professional level, in ways that would affect people’s careers over politics at Microsoft,” says the libertarian engineer. Leadership, he says, tries to stay out of employee debates, unless they blow up and “go viral.” Of course, sometimes they do.

Even companies with strong political agendas at the top might be able to minimize conflict, however. Salesforce and its iconic cofounder and co-CEO Marc Benioff are undeniably political. Between them, Benioff and Salesforce contributed more than $7 million to a San Francisco ballot initiative, Proposition C, that aims to raise about $300 million per year through a new tax on large businesses in the company’s hometown. Benioff went to social media war with fellow billionaires who opposed the proposition, notably Square and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey. That’s merely one example.
“We had a lot of pictures of Hillary Clinton on the walls,” says a Salesforce engineer who also identifies as libertarian. (That said, Salesforce also angered progressives by refusing to cancel a cloud-services contract with U.S. Customs and Border Protection.)
“Everybody knows what I’m into. I’m very outspoken on Facebook, but I try not to bring it to work,” he says.
Despite his philosophical differences with management, the engineer says he hasn’t felt any repercussions at work for his views. And he concedes that Salesforce leadership is trying to appear more welcoming to people with different political views and ideologies, especially as it has expanded in more conservative cities like Indianapolis. “I’ll give them a B-minus,” he says of the company’s effort.

 

[Sir Gawain]

“I and seven other Google employees were publicly blamed by individuals, such as Milo Yiannopoulos, for James Damore’s firing, and that resulted in death threats,” says Liz Fong-Jones, an 11-year Google employee who recently left the company. Fong-Jones is transgender, and was already a target of the anonymous online community Kiwi Farms, which specializes in trolling and defaming members of the trans community.
“That’s obviously very bad,” says a right-leaning Google engineer who opposed Damore’s firing, but agrees with Google’s progressives on some other issues. “[I am] appalled at the $90 million payout for Andy Rubin and all the sexual harassment going on with Google,” he says. Rubin received the payout when terminated for charges of sexual misconduct, part of a larger pattern among Google execs revealed in a 2018 New York Times exposé.
In addition, the engineer was against Project Dragonfly, a censored and monitored search product for the Chinese market, but not Project Maven, an AI contract with the U.S. military–also opposed by Google progressives. That left him with a dilemma: Opposition to Maven was mentioned in an employee petition against Dragonfly. “I really wanted to sign this petition, but Project Maven is why I didn’t,” he says.

So that individual from Google said "Forget about that guy we fired, those dang dirty trolls were bullying me!" Alright cool.

 

[Remove Goat]

There was a Crocels News article about Josh that covered the legality of the Farms.

Joshua Moon questioned over legal status of Kiwi Farms


Joshua Moon, the cyberbully behind the Kiwi Farms website, is facing questions of the legal status of his activities following allegations his websites have been involved in encouraging the suicide of teenagers and celebrating them afterwards.

TROLL: Joshua Conner Moon is an Internet troll who goes by the name of Null. He runs his websites in the name of Lolcow LLC. Courtesy: Matthew Hopkins.
Joshua Conner Moon trades as Lolcow LLC, perhaps to shield liability. But as a spokesperson for the Florida Divisions of Corporationsexplains, Lolcow LLC has be be trading a corporation to enjoy the benefits of limited liability. “If an individual holds them self out to be a Corporation/LLC and they are not, they are liable severally and individually for any claim against the business name,” the spokesperson said.
Concerns have been raised as to whether Joshua Moon is liable for corporate manslaughter, having boasted about driving a member of the public to suicide. One commentator explained how Joshua Conner Moon and his associates groomed a teenager into meeting them offline. “They pretended to want to be someone to date her (the teenager) to the point of actually making a physical date with her in person and wearing wires,” they said about those who form part of websites hosted by Lolcow LLC. “I say Lolcow, but that also goes for Kiwi Farms, CWCki Forums, or whatever, because as far as I’m concerned it is the same group of people.”
It would appear therefore that under the law of Florida, that even though Joshua Conner Moon is running his Kiwi Farm through a corporation, he is still personally liable for any illegal actions he allows to be committed. “Obviously someone would be ill advised to conduct business in this manner,” the spokesperson from the Florida Division of Corporations explained, stressing that if anyone has a personal dispute with a business that is wilfully committing illegal acts that they can “certainly can bring this point out in any legal documents and a court can determine what can be done legally.”


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[YayLasagna]

There was a Crocels News article about Josh that covered the legality of the Farms.

Joshua Moon questioned over legal status of Kiwi Farms


Joshua Moon, the cyberbully behind the Kiwi Farms website, is facing questions of the legal status of his activities following allegations his websites have been involved in encouraging the suicide of teenagers and celebrating them afterwards.
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TROLL: Joshua Conner Moon is an Internet troll who goes by the name of Null. He runs his websites in the name of Lolcow LLC. Courtesy: Matthew Hopkins.
Joshua Conner Moon trades as Lolcow LLC, perhaps to shield liability. But as a spokesperson for the Florida Divisions of Corporationsexplains, Lolcow LLC has be be trading a corporation to enjoy the benefits of limited liability. “If an individual holds them self out to be a Corporation/LLC and they are not, they are liable severally and individually for any claim against the business name,” the spokesperson said.
Concerns have been raised as to whether Joshua Moon is liable for corporate manslaughter, having boasted about driving a member of the public to suicide. One commentator explained how Joshua Conner Moon and his associates groomed a teenager into meeting them offline. “They pretended to want to be someone to date her (the teenager) to the point of actually making a physical date with her in person and wearing wires,” they said about those who form part of websites hosted by Lolcow LLC. “I say Lolcow, but that also goes for Kiwi Farms, CWCki Forums, or whatever, because as far as I’m concerned it is the same group of people.”
It would appear therefore that under the law of Florida, that even though Joshua Conner Moon is running his Kiwi Farm through a corporation, he is still personally liable for any illegal actions he allows to be committed. “Obviously someone would be ill advised to conduct business in this manner,” the spokesperson from the Florida Division of Corporations explained, stressing that if anyone has a personal dispute with a business that is wilfully committing illegal acts that they can “certainly can bring this point out in any legal documents and a court can determine what can be done legally.”


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The amount of things wrong with this article is astounding.