Knives Out - The new film by Rian "subverted expectations" Johnson

The Shadow

Charming rogue
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Well they do say in Hollywood you're only as good as your last picture...

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Irwin M. Felcher

fiery but mostly peaceful
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Oh, it's supposed to be a comedy? I honestly did not get that from watching the trailer, it just seemed like an inexplicably pretentious by-the-numbers Agatha Christie ripoff to me. But now that I know what the pretense is, it's all the worse.
 

Absolutego

Middleman who didn't do diddly
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I'm glad he's finally making something that was intended as a comedy from the outset, but I'd be lying if I said it looked all that funny in this trailer.
 

NumberingYourState

Our fate lies in the moons tilt and shine
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I don't expect someone whose pituitary gland fucked up their craniofacial structure and sense of humor to understand comedy.
 

Truthspeaker

Walking that line between victim and ex-lover
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I'd sooner see Kurtzman and Orci reunite to make the screenplay of a film directed by Kevin Smith.

Get bukkake'd in blue milk fresh from the tits, Rian Johnson!

I'm glad he's finally making something that was intended as a comedy from the outset, but I'd be lying if I said it looked all that funny in this trailer.
A bad writer tends to be a bad writer regardless of genre.

Sure, Ruin directed three if the greatest TV episodes of all time (including The Fly, which is one of the funniest episodes of television ever), but thr emphasis is on "directed". The scripts were all written by actual writers, and Johnson's already admitted he's a terrible writer with bad habits who can barely get out a first draft.

He needs at least two years with daily tutoring from and actual writer, and daily time devoted to practice with an actual writer if he seriously wants to insist on inflicting his lack of talent upon society.
 

Secret Asshole

Expert in things that never, ever happened
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It looks like Clue but worse and more expensive.

Sorry faggot, you'll never beat the ending line of 'I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife'

A bad writer tends to be a bad writer regardless of genre.

Sure, Ruin directed three if the greatest TV episodes of all time (including The Fly, which is one of the funniest episodes of television ever), but thr emphasis is on "directed". The scripts were all written by actual writers, and Johnson's already admitted he's a terrible writer with bad habits who can barely get out a first draft.

He needs at least two years with daily tutoring from and actual writer, and daily time devoted to practice with an actual writer if he seriously wants to insist on inflicting his lack of talent upon society.

...or, you know, just not write? Or have a writer's room? Things that directors who know they can't write do? I don't understand this. Plenty of directors can't write because by being a director you're almost entirely visual orientated, which is why a really good writer director is extremely rare. You basically have to tell a story from two angles if you're writing it, you have to visualize it as well as frame it within a narrative.

Tarantino basically doesn't write scripts, he writes novels. So he basically separates the two tasks out individually. He comes at it from a writing perspective by writing a novel, then translates his novel visually. He breaks the screen-writing format to do this. A lot of writer/directors have styles that are unique and don't really fit traditional molds. There's a reason most directors say 'fuck it' to writing.

I just get the feeling that Johnson has gotten far too egotistical and can't handle someone else controlling or dictating 'his' vision.
 

FaceOfTrueHorror

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Skipping all trailers, not going give him the chance to subverted my expectations.

Will be day one when a webrip hits torrents sites.
 

Gordon Cole

Yep, he's dead
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It looks like Clue but worse and more expensive.

Sorry faggot, you'll never beat the ending line of 'I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife'



...or, you know, just not write? Or have a writer's room? Things that directors who know they can't write do? I don't understand this. Plenty of directors can't write because by being a director you're almost entirely visual orientated, which is why a really good writer director is extremely rare. You basically have to tell a story from two angles if you're writing it, you have to visualize it as well as frame it within a narrative.

Tarantino basically doesn't write scripts, he writes novels. So he basically separates the two tasks out individually. He comes at it from a writing perspective by writing a novel, then translates his novel visually. He breaks the screen-writing format to do this. A lot of writer/directors have styles that are unique and don't really fit traditional molds. There's a reason most directors say 'fuck it' to writing.

I just get the feeling that Johnson has gotten far too egotistical and can't handle someone else controlling or dictating 'his' vision.
To give him some credit, I think that RJ is really strong in terms of directing. He directed some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, and the shot composition was one of the few things I didn't dislike about TLJ.

I wanna believe he was just a poor fit for Star Wars, but this isn't looking too promising.
 
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