KPop Stans - The round eye fans of slant eye bands

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Girls being fans of pop music is not the same as idiots online making death threats and doxxing people because someone doesn't like their dumbass boy band.

As someone who lived through the 90s boy band and early Internet eras, I can guarantee girls were not acting like the BTS Twitter re.tards do today. I was not arguing that there weren't super fans. I'm arguing that Kpop attracts a certain level of absolutely batshit losers.
Batshit losers are everywhere.


L'Homme de la Lune

Janitors are jew-cum garglers.
This is a few weeks old, but no one posted it here (unless I'm mistaken):
An alleged stalker of TWICE member Mina has been questioned by police after being reported by Mina's family, when he tried visiting her in her home in Japan. The foreign fan reportedly went to Japan to see Mina. The account of events were posted by the fan himself as he expressed his disappointment on the female idol. He wrote:

"So I was just leaving the hotel and then the police stopped me and asked for my name and told me I will not be detained but if please I could go to the commissary and talk with them. They took me in the car to the commissary and talked with me with a Spanish translator. They told me that Mina's family is very scared of me. At that moment I was like... seriously?? Do I look like a murderer or something? They told me that I haven't done anything illegal but I have to stop doing it. We had a conversation for like 4 hours telling them my reasons, how much I spent, how I found her, I even showed them the gifts I bought for Mina. So I had to write on a paper like I'm not going to do that again and I'm free to go. They offered to take me to the airport when I leave. Was this really necessary, Mina? You could have just said "no" and I would have left. You're scared of me? Am I a monster to you? If I really was a bad person I would leak your home address but I won't because I'm a better person than you will ever be... I only committed a crime of loving someone, ringing her doorbell and leaving love letter in the mailbox just to get completely ignored and call the police."

Fans have expressed their growing concern on the matter as Mina is still undergoing treatment and is recovering from severe anxiety, which prompted her to halt participation in group schedule last year.

From what I know about this situation, this stalker has already left Japan and flew home after police were called on him. His last posts said he was done with Mina, but he may still try to sell her info. JYPE are likely aware but please take a second to email this to
— misa •ᴗ• (@misayeon) January 23, 2020
TL;DR: Some autist from 4chan's music board is stalking Twice's Mina in a not-so-glorious quest to find love. The nigger knocked on the door of her family's house to give her love letters or something similar. Twitter trannies are going apeshit over it.

Check the source for twitter links.

Kill all whales

dear god ,dear god tinkle tinkle hoy.
True & Honest Fan
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Achieving fame as a K-pop star involves years of intensive training, and often some plastic surgery. Euodias is one of the few British hopefuls to have experienced the gruelling life of a K-pop trainee. Here she describes what it was like, and explains why - after being selected for a girl group - she quit.

I was a child when I made the big move from my home in the north-east of England to South Korea, where I trained for two years to become a K-pop star.

At the time K-pop was largely unknown in Britain. But I'm half-Korean and half-Chinese, so I started watching South Korean TV dramas like Boys Over Flowers and Playful Kiss - and then fell in love with K-pop and the whole culture.

While my classmates were crazy about Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys, I was also listening to Wonder Girls and B2ST.

My burning ambition was to become an actor and perform.

One way of doing that in South Korea is to become an "idol", which means someone who does everything: model, act, sing and dance. So K-pop seemed like a route to achieving my dreams.

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When the first girl sang, the judge barked "Stop. Next!" before she got to the chorus of her song. Nearly everyone got the same treatment.

When it was my turn, I performed a monologue from a Korean TV drama. The judge stopped me halfway through.

"We're looking for singers," he said. "So will you sing?" I hadn't prepared a song, but I had a go at doing A Whole New World from Disney's Aladdin.

The judge halted me and asked to see me dance. I hadn't prepared for that either, and felt like an idiot. So they put on a dance track and I did some freestyling.

After conferring with assistants, the judge gave me a yellow piece of paper. I was through to the next stage.

I was directed to a room where I was asked to walk along a line taped on the floor, and my face was photographed from different angles to see how I would look on camera.

Within days, I was asked to come back with a parent to discuss a contract.

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Under the terms of the contract, I would leave my family and move to South Korea to live and train at the company.

If I chose to leave before the contract was up, I would have to repay the full cost of my training, which would run into thousands of dollars.

Mum reluctantly signed a two-year contract - the shortest they offered - on my behalf.

After the meeting we had an argument and mum didn't talk to me for a month.

Soon after I started as a trainee, the entertainment company that had signed me up transferred my contract to another firm. Such moves are common and trainees don't get any say in the matter.

My new company was strict. I had to live in their building with the other trainees who were all aged between nine and 16. The sexes were separated.

We only left the building to attend our normal school lessons. Korean trainees went to local state schools but because I was British I went to an international school. Other than that we weren't allowed out without permission, which was usually refused.

If parents wanted to visit they had to get approval in advance. Relatives who turned up without notice were turned away.

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On a typical day we trainees would wake up at 5am to get in some extra dance practice before school started at 8am.

When the school day ended we would return to the company to be trained in singing and dancing. Trainees would stay up practising until 11pm or later, in an attempt to impress instructors.

At night we were left to look after ourselves. We had a strict curfew to make sure we'd be back in the dorms before they locked up the building.

Dating was banned, though some secretly did. Trainees were all supposed to act straight even if they weren't. Anybody who appeared to be openly gay was ostracised by the company.

Both male and female trainees would have "managers" - uncle-type figures who would text us at night to keep tabs on us. If we didn't text back, then we would immediately get a phone call, asking where we were.

There was no such thing as weekends or holidays. On national holidays like the Lunar New Year, trainees would remain in the company building while staff took the day off.

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The company sorted us into two main groups, kind of like a Team A and Team B. I was one of the 20 to 30 members of Team A - we were thought to have the most potential.

Team B had around 200 trainees. Some of them had even had to pay their way into the company. They could train for years and years and never know if they would actually "debut" - the word used when someone is launched as a K-pop performer.

Team A trainees slept in dorms with four girls to a bedroom. The regular trainees would sleep together in a huge room and had to make do with mats on a wooden floor.

I saw exhausted Team B trainees sleep in the dance studios after training, because the mats there were just like the ones in their dorms.

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I only ever saw one Team B trainee get promoted to Team A. If Team A trainees misbehaved, or complained about something they might be threatened with being thrown out or moved to Team B.

But generally nobody complained. We were all really young and ambitious. The company's attitude was that everything we experienced was part of learning the discipline needed to be a K-pop idol. So we just accepted everything.

Inside the company building, we didn't use our own names, except with other trainees. We were each given a number and a stage name in keeping with the sort of character they had picked for us.

I was given the name Dia, but our instructors would only ever call us by our numbers, which they read from stickers on our shirts. It felt weird, a bit like we were in some sort of science experiment.

I knew I had the attributes to be a successful idol.

The company favoured me, because I am very small - instructors constantly praised me for being petite. Don't get me wrong, I love eating, but I'm lucky to have a high metabolism and don't gain weight easily.

Weight was the constant obsession of everyone there. Everyone was required to be no heavier than 47kg (7st 6lb or 104lb) regardless of their age or height.

At weekly weigh-ins, your body would be analysed by the trainer, and then they announced your weight to everyone in the room.

If you were over the designated weight, then they would ration your food. Sometimes they would even take away entire meals and those "overweight" trainees would just be given water.

I thought that was really harsh because some of those girls couldn't help being tall.

Starving yourself was really normalised. Some trainees were anorexic or bulimic, and many of the girls didn't have periods.

It was common to pass out from exhaustion. Often we had to help carry unconscious trainees back to the dorms.

I passed out twice during dance practice, probably because I was dehydrated or hadn't eaten enough. I woke up in bed not knowing how I got there.

The attitude among the trainees after that was like, "Good for her! She wants it so much!" Looking back on it now, I think it was really disgusting.

I found that I didn't really have good friends there, everyone was more like a colleague. The environment was way too tense and competitive to forge real friendships.

The stressful atmosphere was heightened by the monthly showcase events. Each trainee would perform in front of everyone and be evaluated by the instructors.

If a trainee didn't get a good grade, then they would be kicked out immediately.

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They would be replaced by a constant stream of new arrivals. What was even more intimidating was that some of the new trainees had already had plastic surgery done, so they already looked more like K-pop stars than the rest of us.

There was also bullying going on among the trainees. One girl was picked on because she was over the maximum weight. Another trainee who was a good dancer had his dance shoes stolen.

I missed my old friends back in England but I couldn't really keep in touch with them as instructors made us hand in our phones so we would focus on our training. The company also wanted to make trainees seem more mysterious before they debuted, and didn't want us posting anything embarrassing on social media.

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We could get our phones back for 15 minutes at night, and I would use that time to call my mum. But most trainees also secretly kept a second phone.

My parents knew that training was difficult, but there really wasn't much they could do because I was under a contract and they were so far away. Most of the Korean trainees wouldn't tell their parents anything at all because they didn't want them to worry.

What kept me going was the belief that I would eventually debut as a member of a group.

However, the company only had spots for fewer than half of the members of Team A. We competed for them through constant examinations in singing, dancing, and interviews.

K-pop groups are typically organised like this: a lead vocalist, dancer, rapper, youngest member, etc. Everyone has a specific role.

I was delighted when they told me I had been picked to be a lead singer. But then the company said they were considering me for an alternative role in the group, the visual.

The visual is the face of the group. You get picked for this because of your appearance, and crucially, how you might look in the future. Another girl was in competition with me for this spot.

She was naturally more attractive than me, but the company predicted that if I got plastic surgery I would end up prettier than her and would then be ready to be the visual.

By Korean standards I have a very big face, so they wanted to change the bridge of my nose and shave my jawline.

The company couldn't force a trainee to have plastic surgery, but it was strongly encouraged. Plastic surgery is very normal in South Korea and the prospect of having surgery didn't bother me at all. I saw it as an investment in my future - the cost of the operation would have been added to my debt to the company.

But my mum had mixed feelings, she realised it meant I would be closer to becoming an idol, but she was also worried for me.

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When the company told me that I was being lined up for the visual spot, I was so happy.

They told me that I was going to be a K-pop star, and that's really amazing to hear, especially when you're an impressionable teenager hearing that from powerful people.

As time went on, the company started to tell us more about what the group was going to be like.

They told us the music genre, the style that we would have, and I started feeling iffy about the whole thing.

I learned about the character behind my stage name, Dia. She was supposed to be very reserved, sweet, and innocent. As the visual, I would be expected to personify those characteristics.

But Dia just wasn't me. I'm opinionated and loud. I doubted I would be able to keep up this docile personality in public.

I thought it might just be worth it if it led to me becoming an actor. But when I tried talking to the company about my ambitions the response was: "No, we think you'll fit better with this girl group."

Someone senior there told me that as I was half-Korean, if I pursued an acting career then the best I could hope for was a supporting role on a TV show.

I felt my dreams slipping away.

My contract came up for renewal before my group was due to be launched - and I said that I wanted out.

It's really unusual to walk away, most trainees want the dream so badly that they'll agree to anything.

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Despite my refusal, I parted on good terms with the company.

Because I left when I did, I had no debts to pay off, I had fulfilled my part of the contract.

If I had stayed and debuted with the group then I would have been charged for the cost of my instructor fees, accommodation, and for any plastic surgery.

Even successful acts have to continue working to pay off all the debt incurred during training, and the new debt that builds up when you're an idol. It's actually really difficult to make money by being a K-pop star.

I returned to England without having had any plastic surgery and was reunited with my old friends. I was able to sit my exams with everyone else.

I went on to do an art foundation course and then got a place at a fashion school in France. I'm really fortunate because so many trainees get dropped at 18, or finish their contracts when they're 21 and feel lost. They gave up everything to try to be a K-pop idol, but that's ended and they find themselves with no qualifications.

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just show that not everything is perfect.


"I got a B+ in lurking!"
Again nobody is denying that crazy fans have existed for a long ass time. I remember seeing pictures of where a girl carved Beiber's name in her arm (was that real or a hoax?). What is being said is that KPop seems to have a disproportionate amount of crazy and even a new brand of crazy.

I don't remember Directioners tweeting "Maybe if Robin Williams stanned Zayn he wouldn't have hung himself" in 2014. I don't remember constant death threats and doxing to those who criticized or joked about Beiber. I don't remember fans trying desperately to bury information about their idol's mistake or accident on twitter like they did with that one KPop plastic-boi who was in a minor auto accident.

Not saying it didn't happen, but if it was as prevalent I'm pretty sure I'd remember it. 2019/2020 isn't my first internet rodeo.

YYS why are you so defensive?
Because KPop fan.

Only a matter of time until a crazy K-Pop stan goes full Mark David Chapman on an idol. At this point, it's not a matter of 'if', it's a matter of 'when'.
It already HAS happened. They just make sure it doesn't make too many waves when it gets out. Theres probably a lot of investors with strong company ties making sure things don't blow up too much.

There have already been suicides, attempted kidnapping, and idol culture in japan has resulted in attempted murder. And yet things continue on. Which means there are people with a lot of money riding on this gig, and you don't rock the boat. Everything else is just unfortunate collateral damage.


Meat Poultry Veg

The staff of life
Not sure if it's been brought up yet but I think it's hilarious how angry kpop stans get when people say they can't tell these dudes apart. You can't tell me that this isn't the same dude just copy+pasted 7 times and given different haircuts.
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To my shame, I can tell them all apart (I got really into Kpoop two years ago, send your Autistic ratings). However, I saw one shooped pic where J-Hope's face was pasted on everyone else's body and I didn't notice the first two times I looked at the picture.

Xerxes IX

Remove Kebab is a meme of peace
Not sure if it's been brought up yet but I think it's hilarious how angry kpop stans get when people say they can't tell these dudes apart. You can't tell me that this isn't the same dude just copy+pasted 7 times and given different haircuts.
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They claim it's racism when those entertainment companies specifically seek out people with certain features and pay for plastic surgery for them. It's like how LA people all look similar because of plastic surgery.

You would think if they're apparently so socially conscious they'd care that the beloved people they "stan" are meat puppets for an uncaring billion dollar industry but I guess not. I can't count how many times I see people saying "fuck capitalism" "eat the rich" and then turning around and buying into/unironically supporting east Asian consumer culture.