Even if Kreia's philosophy is difficult (if not impossible) to put in practice it's also true that when you allow the police to protect you instead of protecting yourself that gives more power to the state.If you always let people fight their own battles, you're basicly arguing for a pure hierarchy based on power. After all we wouldn't want police to fight your battles for you when you get jumped by a bunch of gangbangers, would we?
Well, in real life we don't really have the Force. I think that if you apply her philosophy to real life it would be something like, don't rely on power that you achieve by climbing a hierarchy where you are rewarded by following the leader and playing by their rules but where you alone are no one, and instead learn to be as self sufficient from hierarchies as much as you can even if you are in one.Also, if you're not going to depend on others for power, you're always going to be an island, isolated. You can't really be a ruler without depending on others for power, so her saying that is just some braggadacio.
This is the strangest thing I've read today and I've read the little einstein larp. You're worried about police stopping a gang from robbing, attacking or killing you because it would give power to the state?Even if Kreia's philosophy is difficult (if not impossible) to put in practice it's also true that when you allow the police to protect you instead of protecting yourself that gives more power to the state.
This is arguing for the opposite than what the philosophy set out. If you know the right people and that gets you a job, then how does your power not derive from other people?ie. the employee who has gotten to a leadership position by working for that company most of his life has less "power" than an employee who got that job because he knows the right people or has other skills
No, I am saying that power is having the monopoly of (legitimate) violence. Same idea behind gun control. I'm not saying I don't think the police shouldn't exist or protect you either.This is the strangest thing I've read today and I've read the little einstein larp. You're worried about police stopping a gang from robbing, attacking or killing you because it would give power to the state?
(Note that I am not an expert on philosophy much less Kreia's). I think that that is achieved by not depending on just one or a few people that belong all to the same group. Picking no sides.This is arguing for the opposite than what the philosophy set out. If you know the right people and that gets you a job, then how does your power not derive from other people?
It's a metaphor.Which is why you shouldn't rely on a philosophy ascribed by a fictional character. Star Wars is a world where true power LITERALLY comes from inside you (Or medichlorians or some shit I dunno.)
How is that metaphor in a universe where people can conjure lightning and acts of telekinesis from within themselves? Its not metaphor if its literally factual. "True Power comes from within" takes on a completely different meaning when you're clairvoyant and can project your image across worlds.It's a metaphor.
Why is power limited to "Legitimate violence" and who determines legitimacy? Your conception of "Power" seems really simplistic. Some would say power is having the capacity/ability to affect change and can thus be manifested under a variety of circumstances in a variety of ways. Why needlessly limit yourself to power being purely a matter of violent action?No, I am saying that power is having the monopoly of (legitimate) violence.
She does have a point on the beggar situation. It shows that there is no "good" way to go about it. Kreia's whole premise is to show that the world isn't black and white, I think that situation illustrates it well. There's should be a 3rd option where you point the beggar to the next unemployement center or send them on an errand where you can pay him and win something but I guess the idea behind the beggar situation was just to make the point that neither Jedi or Sith ideology would help you there.Kreia's philosophy is "Haha I'm contrarian". There are a number of quests where she gives you shit no matter which way you solve it. Give money to a begger? Oh, of course, he gets mugged and murdered. Don't give him money? Some other bad thing happens to him. Either way it's your fault for choosing wrong.
Seriously, at least rip your philosophy from GoT like everyone else.
We have faggots using Star Wars for philosophy even though there hasn't been a good movie in about 40 years.
>It's basically some Ayn Rand-light faggotry.
Hey, I mean at least no one's ever really gone
Some of it was also basic utilitarianism.Sometimes fictional stories and setting contain interesting and novel ideas that might be used as inspiration for real-world thought on how things are. The point being "used as inspiration". Star Wars is really shitty fiction to begin with, and if you take something directly and literally out of there and try to make it work in real world...it just doesn't work. At best you might get your head wrapped around it so hard that you believe it works, and from that point there is not a long road to the mental asylum.
As far as the "real world influences" behind this "Kreia's philosophy", I would hazard a guess that someone has read some Satanic Bible, and perhaps one or two paragraphs out of the "Might is Right". Both are shit, for more reasons than I care to go in to here.