Laments... I have a few, dear Kiwis. -

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Jaimas

YOUR PEACEFUL LIFE IS NO MORE!!
True & Honest Fan
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Sometimes, Kiwis, this old Moderator has to let off some sad. Heed my words well, Kiwis, for they may harbor a story you yourselves may learn from.

PTWeZE1.png


It's no small secret that I'm politically, pretty leftist. I have been since I was old enough to make my own decisions. When I was growing up, my mom - a real firebrand of a political activist who had been involved with the civil rights movement - told me that I should never accept anything I'm told at face value, and to do my own research. My mom was also an environmental advocate, multiple times calling the Parks department to task for trying to use one of the beaches as a staging area for road salt and for essentially destroying the local ecology of the place by using half the place as a dumping ground. She was someone who effected real - if minor - change right here in our community and did so by having the balls to stand up when nobody else would.

I still hold close to my heart the lessons I learned there, Kiwis. I was politically active for my entire life through my 20s. I did work for the DNC and I was active at the local level, too. I was a Democrat because I genuinely believe in helping other people, and because I feel that we have a moral imperative to try to leave things better than how we got them, so future generations can have an better time of it than we did.

But over time, there's something else I learned. Something I never would have learned had I simply immersed myself in Democratic activism - and something I learned only because I did my own research. Over time, I realized just how small the differences between parties politically there was. I'm friends with many people who don't agree with me politically. Rather than simply argue, however, like my mom tended to do with my uncles and aunts, I instead decided to keep my ears open and pick up on the underlying causes of their objections. In time, I learned that a lot of them felt the same fucking way I did about things. They disagreed on some things - foreign policy, gay rights, etc - but otherwise, they all felt similarly about issues that actually mattered, like socioeconomic issues. Over time, I learned that the words of the opposition were not to be feared, but to be listened to and analyzed, because even if you don't agree with them, there are facts to be learned and information to be gleaned by carefully looking at their message, and one of the most critical facts one learns from this is that we aren't that different at all.

But the thing is, whilst my idealism was tempered by experience and worldliness, and an understanding of greater issues and the opposition alike, many people I went to school with or associated with went completely off the deep end. They never questioned things, and when things started to go wrong, their solution was to double-down. Within a few years, I watched with no small amount of horror, Kiwis, as otherwise well-meaning and well-intentioned people had, via some exrtremely exploitative people, been turned into the very thing they sought to oppose - extremists.

I can not, in mere words, describe the balls-out terror I felt, the first time I heard, from someone on my own side - the very same "If you're not with us, you're against us" rhetoric I had mocked when Bush did it from my fellow Democrats. For someone like me, who had become a Democrat to help others, who valued personal liberty, this was like a kick in the balls. And so I did the only thing I could - the stupidest thing, perhaps.

I called them on it. I used the big words, even. I called them Antidemocratic.

The blastback was pretty big. I was accused of backsliding and treated as haram by people on my own side. I backed off online, but I never forgot the response to it. And as someone who has a long memory, Kiwis, that stuck with me.

Over time, I kept trying to prod my nose in to try to do... I don't know - some small effort to direct the crazy train that the website that had helped form my political first steps away from the abyss. It's like a missile you see flying towards a Village in the middle distance. You know it's going to hit, and you know that the damage is going to be catastrophic, but you still want to try to go there before the thing hits and maybe save someone. Anyone.

The actual event horizon came around the time of the Duke Lacrosse scandal. Less said about it the better, but the entire thing was a hoax and those on that website were still claiming that they were rapists after being found innocent. I was disgusted. I butted in again, again getting savaged by the locals.

That's when I realized what had happened. And when GG began, I noticed how the pattern had played out. A site I had cut my teeth on now stood in direct opposition to almost everything, as a Democrat, I had held dear, and did so whilst essentially regurgitating talking point from the SJW class. When you can get hide-rated into fucking oblivion for daring to suggest that White People being called Satan is wrong, well... There's not a whole lot of hope left for a community at that point, is there?

For someone like me, GG was a seminal moment. Proof of everything I had learned - that political party didn't matter as much as being willing to stand up for what's right. Libertarians, Conservatives, Democrats, all in one big camp and all because of Video Games.

But you know me, dear Kiwis. Can never leave well enough alone. I never got banned from the site of my origin, so I'd go back there to be a dick. I'd call identity politics ideologues out on their shit, to defend the downtrodden, and to point out that - yes - racism against white people is a thing, and I'd appreciate you stop saying it isn't, asshole. For a long time, the preferred target of my aggression was Margaret Pless, who I later found out was an Anti-GGer.

Color me unsurprised.

Today, however, I found the best example of just how far the site of my origin had fallen, and.... Well, fuck, Kiwis, I'll let you judge:


That is the Admin of that site, clickbaiting that Breitbart was involved with terrorism.

You know, whilst fucking ignoring that they were a fucking DailyKos poster.

Kiwis, it's a dark day when a site officially shits the bed so hard it blasts through to the floorboards, but... Fucking look at that. Within the span of two years, the site went form "More and better democrats" to "How we can demonize anyone who tangentially disagree with us?"

There's no looking objectively at this any longer. The second you make a claim like Kos did in the above, the game's over - you have officially stopped caring about objectivity and care only about your own personal bullshit.

The blade has dropped, and your head is in the basket.

And now we get to the reason for this lengthy lament, my Kiwis: I should have seen this coming, but I didn't. I can't divorce myself of this feeling that if only I had warned people, tried to get the word out about it, we'd have been better prepared for the lunacy that we've seen in recent years.

I know that it isn't my fault, but I'm Irish and an overdeveloped sense of personal responsibility that I tend to drown in potent alcohol when it pisses me off too much is practically a requirement. Had I actually done so, they'd have demonized me the same way they demonized the others who dared question "the narrative." I merely wish that there was more I could have done before this nonsense hit critical mass.

All I wanted to do is help people, and that brought me directly into opposition with Social Justice, Identity Politics ideologues, and maniacs. I've been called everything from an MRA to a Gamergate Harasser for daring to simply disagree, and the fact of the matter is that really the only thing I ever did was what I always did - what my mom did, and what a lot of people I respect did.

...And I'll do it again in a heartbeat.
 

Wallace

Cram it in me, baby!
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I remember back ten or twelve years years ago when criticizing or disagreeing with President Bush made you an al-Qaeda sympathizer who hated America and freedom. It didn't take long for this shield to extend to the ersatz mouthpiece of the Republican party, Fox news. Today, it seems that this same line of faulty logic has been co-opted by the left.

Casting yourself as the aggrieved is a strong stance to take. It gives you a position of moral superiority, and allows you to claim that you only seek justice or fairness. You're not against justice or fairness, are you? You're not going to take the side of the violator, are you? If things get heated, it allows you to claim self-defense. It's great if you only care about winning the war of words; not so much if you're trying to persuade someone else or make a meaningful change in society.

I can tell you this from personal experience: carrying around a basket of grievances that can never be satisfied is a horrible way to live. It breeds nothing but frustration and anger. The way you get better is you learn how to forgive. To be clear, forgiveness is something that you do for yourself, not others. It does not condone the actions of others that have hurt you, rather it is freeing you of the mental burden that you carry around with you. I highly recommend Forgive for Good by Dr. Fred Luskin. It helped to give me a lot of closure over many things I was still carrying around.
 

Philosophy Zombie

No Gods No Masters
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I read this over like four times and I'm not sure what you're trying to say except that GG and ethics in VIDYA JOURNALISM is the most important political issue of our era, and when your favorite vidya website lied that's when you lost your faith in humanity or something? I don't know about you, but if a video game website starts to make shit up for clicks, I don't treat that as the biggest thing in the world. Is it unfortunate? Sure, I guess, but it's not like they're reporting on al-Qaeda. It's just video games.
also this is petty but you do not have to italicize every other fucking word, christ
 

IronJustice

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Jaimas, I really think your political opinion is interesting and a breath of fresh air on the internet. There is absolutely a culture brewing of ingesting information without criticizing it. Some of this could be blamed on our education system, that teaches a curriculum suited to doing well on assessment tests, especially the ones that determine state funding. The emphasis on being spoonfed information to be later regurgitated and not being taught how to formulate and criticize arguments is detrimental to individual growth.

For myself, I grew up politically right. I was a member of the Young Republicans in high school. I watched the news regularly and was eager for political debate, with factoids ready to go. What really began to bring about change in me was seeing the corruption that gripped both of the main parties. Democrats and Republicans are both equally guilty of perpetrating a political machine that trades money for policy and squashes the opposition in a completely undemocratic way. Secret societies and cronyism are at work to an extent that will never fully come to light.

I consider myself an independent conservative. The Libertarian party is appealing to me, as I believe that in general, minimal government is best. Power will ultimately lead to corruption given enough time. Virtually every government in history that has staying power will gradually progress towards more control and corruption. There is always a move to sacrifice rights for more 'protection' from the government, which breeds more opportunity for corruption. The occasional selfless leader in office will do little but delay the inevitable. Those that crave power are psychopaths, and will go to any length to achieve that power. Those with morals often can't compete.

I have worked for the government and in the military (Air Force), and the bureaucratic mess we work in is beyond broken. Anyone who thinks it can be fixed in any tangible length of time has never seen the inside. Positive change in this country is impeded by the worst red tape imaginable. Every year regulation increases. Those at the helm don't realize or don't care about the far reaching effects of their policies on the broad scope they cover, and instead of repealing ineffective laws they pile new ones on top of each-other. Its a patchwork on a blanket that fixes a small hole with 15 layers of patching, none of which fit soundly over the hole, but all of which spill over to other areas. The solution is worse than the problem.

This country has a dark future, regardless of which side wins in 2016. I wont be voting, because nobody can fix this system.
 
A

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I read this over like four times and I'm not sure what you're trying to say except that GG and ethics in VIDYA JOURNALISM is the most important political issue of our era, and when your favorite vidya website lied that's when you lost your faith in humanity or something? I don't know about you, but if a video game website starts to make shit up for clicks, I don't treat that as the biggest thing in the world. Is it unfortunate? Sure, I guess, but it's not like they're reporting on al-Qaeda. It's just video games.
also this is petty but you do not have to italicize every other fucking word, christ

@Jaimas is basically railing against certain brands of political opportunists who have co-opted the democratic party and the Daily Kos Website.

He has watched as the people he believed in became everything he and his mother believed were wrong in the world. A site and a cause he stood for have become the exact types of monsters that set society back. It hurts him dearly.

If you live long enough you can sometimes watch as everything you believed and fought for turn on you. :(
 
J

JU 199

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Sometimes, Kiwis, this old Moderator has to let off some sad. Heed my words well, Kiwis, for they may harbor a story you yourselves may learn from.

PTWeZE1.png


It's no small secret that I'm politically, pretty leftist. I have been since I was old enough to make my own decisions. When I was growing up, my mom - a real firebrand of a political activist who had been involved with the civil rights movement - told me that I should never accept anything I'm told at face value, and to do my own research. My mom was also an environmental advocate, multiple times calling the Parks department to task for trying to use one of the beaches as a staging area for road salt and for essentially destroying the local ecology of the place by using half the place as a dumping ground. She was someone who effected real - if minor - change right here in our community and did so by having the balls to stand up when nobody else would.

I still hold close to my heart the lessons I learned there, Kiwis. I was politically active for my entire life through my 20s. I did work for the DNC and I was active at the local level, too. I was a Democrat because I genuinely believe in helping other people, and because I feel that we have a moral imperative to try to leave things better than how we got them, so future generations can have an better time of it than we did.

But over time, there's something else I learned. Something I never would have learned had I simply immersed myself in Democratic activism - and something I learned only because I did my own research. Over time, I realized just how small the differences between parties politically there was. I'm friends with many people who don't agree with me politically. Rather than simply argue, however, like my mom tended to do with my uncles and aunts, I instead decided to keep my ears open and pick up on the underlying causes of their objections. In time, I learned that a lot of them felt the same fucking way I did about things. They disagreed on some things - foreign policy, gay rights, etc - but otherwise, they all felt similarly about issues that actually mattered, like socioeconomic issues. Over time, I learned that the words of the opposition were not to be feared, but to be listened to and analyzed, because even if you don't agree with them, there are facts to be learned and information to be gleaned by carefully looking at their message, and one of the most critical facts one learns from this is that we aren't that different at all.

But the thing is, whilst my idealism was tempered by experience and worldliness, and an understanding of greater issues and the opposition alike, many people I went to school with or associated with went completely off the deep end. They never questioned things, and when things started to go wrong, their solution was to double-down. Within a few years, I watched with no small amount of horror, Kiwis, as otherwise well-meaning and well-intentioned people had, via some exrtremely exploitative people, been turned into the very thing they sought to oppose - extremists.

I can not, in mere words, describe the balls-out terror I felt, the first time I heard, from someone on my own side - the very same "If you're not with us, you're against us" rhetoric I had mocked when Bush did it from my fellow Democrats. For someone like me, who had become a Democrat to help others, who valued personal liberty, this was like a kick in the balls. And so I did the only thing I could - the stupidest thing, perhaps.

I called them on it. I used the big words, even. I called them Antidemocratic.

The blastback was pretty big. I was accused of backsliding and treated as haram by people on my own side. I backed off online, but I never forgot the response to it. And as someone who has a long memory, Kiwis, that stuck with me.

Over time, I kept trying to prod my nose in to try to do... I don't know - some small effort to direct the crazy train that the website that had helped form my political first steps away from the abyss. It's like a missile you see flying towards a Village in the middle distance. You know it's going to hit, and you know that the damage is going to be catastrophic, but you still want to try to go there before the thing hits and maybe save someone. Anyone.

The actual event horizon came around the time of the Duke Lacrosse scandal. Less said about it the better, but the entire thing was a hoax and those on that website were still claiming that they were rapists after being found innocent. I was disgusted. I butted in again, again getting savaged by the locals.

That's when I realized what had happened. And when GG began, I noticed how the pattern had played out. A site I had cut my teeth on now stood in direct opposition to almost everything, as a Democrat, I had held dear, and did so whilst essentially regurgitating talking point from the SJW class. When you can get hide-rated into fucking oblivion for daring to suggest that White People being called Satan is wrong, well... There's not a whole lot of hope left for a community at that point, is there?

For someone like me, GG was a seminal moment. Proof of everything I had learned - that political party didn't matter as much as being willing to stand up for what's right. Libertarians, Conservatives, Democrats, all in one big camp and all because of Video Games.

But you know me, dear Kiwis. Can never leave well enough alone. I never got banned from the site of my origin, so I'd go back there to be a dick. I'd call identity politics ideologues out on their shit, to defend the downtrodden, and to point out that - yes - racism against white people is a thing, and I'd appreciate you stop saying it isn't, asshole. For a long time, the preferred target of my aggression was Margaret Pless, who I later found out was an Anti-GGer.

Color me unsurprised.

Today, however, I found the best example of just how far the site of my origin had fallen, and.... Well, fuck, Kiwis, I'll let you judge:


That is the Admin of that site, clickbaiting that Breitbart was involved with terrorism.

You know, whilst fucking ignoring that they were a fucking DailyKos poster.

Kiwis, it's a dark day when a site officially shits the bed so hard it blasts through to the floorboards, but... Fucking look at that. Within the span of two years, the site went form "More and better democrats" to "How we can demonize anyone who tangentially disagree with us?"

There's no looking objectively at this any longer. The second you make a claim like Kos did in the above, the game's over - you have officially stopped caring about objectivity and care only about your own personal bullshit.

The blade has dropped, and your head is in the basket.

And now we get to the reason for this lengthy lament, my Kiwis: I should have seen this coming, but I didn't. I can't divorce myself of this feeling that if only I had warned people, tried to get the word out about it, we'd have been better prepared for the lunacy that we've seen in recent years.

I know that it isn't my fault, but I'm Irish and an overdeveloped sense of personal responsibility that I tend to drown in potent alcohol when it pisses me off too much is practically a requirement. Had I actually done so, they'd have demonized me the same way they demonized the others who dared question "the narrative." I merely wish that there was more I could have done before this nonsense hit critical mass.

All I wanted to do is help people, and that brought me directly into opposition with Social Justice, Identity Politics ideologues, and maniacs. I've been called everything from an MRA to a Gamergate Harasser for daring to simply disagree, and the fact of the matter is that really the only thing I ever did was what I always did - what my mom did, and what a lot of people I respect did.

...And I'll do it again in a heartbeat.

I'm sorry this happened to you. If it's any consolation I've had my own experiences along similar lines so I know what you must feel like. The subject was different but It went against liberal orthodoxy and therefore I must be guilty of 'other offences'.

The left as a political platform doesn't win elections often anymore. If you check a map of Europe or the Americas conservative parties dominate everywhere. This is on the back of the largest economic inequality in history, deep financialization of the economy and a money influence in politics so blatant none of the actors involved even bother hiding it. You would think that the left as a platform would do well in a climate like this? They obviously aren't. Its partly due to a web of finical interests protecting the flow of easy cash that may or may not get cut off were a true and honest left platform would succeed. I think the a larger problem in how liberals communicate, assumption creep and the organisation of general politics around cultural issues while excluding economic ones.

Due to those factors. 'The left' (in a broad context) lose often. Though you wouldn't think they were if you glanced at their twitter feeds or tumblr pages. The Huffington post is always pumping out feel good puff-pieces and the DNC mailing list always reminds it's readers that they're special. That's what the support network is about, maintaining the left's release valve. They wouldn't wan't to feel like losers, would they? All it would take is glancing at a global political map or counting winnable issues you've lost on.

Its why they've become so obsessed about gender. Why grapple with the depressing issue of financialization or the minutia of how broken the Veterans Affairs department is when you can invent new genders and scream at shitlords all day? You get to feel like you're a smug winner and the hard issues remain ignored. You don't have to convince anyone your right when you isolate yourself on the Daily Kos or Tumblr.

Unfortunately their psychodrama and insecurity sometimes produces moments where they'll gladly burn their own. I'm sorry you were the collateral damage @Jaimas :(

 
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LazarusOwenhart

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I don't get that attitude. Hate never effects change. I'm pretty right wing. I'm not Hitler, I believe in helping all people as much as the leftest Left but I just differ in my definition of 'help'. Thing is my best friend, the closest thing I have to a brother is a parliamentary candidate for a mid-left party. We disagree on politics, but there's no hate. Frustration maybe, debate certainly. No hate.
 

IronJustice

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I don't get that attitude. Hate never effects change. I'm pretty right wing. I'm not Hitler, I believe in helping all people as much as the leftest Left but I just differ in my definition of 'help'. Thing is my best friend, the closest thing I have to a brother is a parliamentary candidate for a mid-left party. We disagree on politics, but there's no hate. Frustration maybe, debate certainly. No hate.

I think the main difference between the left and right concerning 'help' is that the left believes the government is responsible for the redistribution of wealth and social programs. The right believes more in personal responsibility and voluntary charity.
 

LazarusOwenhart

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I think the main difference between the left and right concerning 'help' is that the left believes the government is responsible for the redistribution of wealth and social programs. The right believes more in personal responsibility and voluntary charity.
Well put. I believe that personal responsibility is important. A society that cushions its citizens from consequences is a society that loses it's ability to react to a crisis. WW2 was a prime example of the English spirit. People worked together because they knew how to deal with hardship. They knew how to make a bad situation into a good one. If such a conflict happened today our country would be full of people standing around going, "Not my problem, government will sort it out. What do you mean food and fuel rations? Fuck it I'm gonna go and smash up Ladbrokes in protest then go and get my benefits." Also on the subject of voluntary charity, the British aristocracy (IE the Right wing), traditionally, make MASSIVE charitable contributions which, yes does allow you to dodge a little bit of tax BUT it's still a huge amount of charity money regardless of its origin. The reason you don't hear about it is that it's considered uncouth in British high society to talk about ones charitable donations as you shouldn't do it for bragging rights, it should be done for the benefit of the needy and nothing else. Hell even I don't talk about my charity contributions and it makes me really angry when American new money go on TV and start spouting about how many hundreds of thousands they donated so whatever organisation.
 

Jaimas

YOUR PEACEFUL LIFE IS NO MORE!!
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It's not a lost cause.

Check below the spoiler tag for more.

Today, I attended the mandatory DASA (Dignity for All Students Act) refresher and safety course. It's a three-hour session of us learning shit we already knew, mostly, caged with me having the opportunity to meet up with an old friend who is also the DASA Coordinator and is always a delight to talk with. Unfortunately, when I got the pamphlet for DASA today, something was wrong.

Something that made my blood run cold.

Something I immediately took a photo of and sent to both @Meowthkip and @KidKitty.

An entire six-page pamphlet about Trans students and "Gender Non-Standard" (nice wording, New York State) individuals being added to DASA. Included was a section involving preferred pronouns. "Mother fucker," I thought to myself. "This is the day I'm going to get fired for being pathologically unable to keep my fucking mouth shut, isn't it..?"

Such was not the case. As the Coordinator went on, she did something I didn't expect - she admitted that she knew nothing about this. Indeed, nobody in the entire educational section knew anything about this. I saw an opportunity, and even though I tend to be pretty quiet and introverted, I'm also willing to call bullshit where I see it and buck the system when required. My co-workers are old-school, and regular people. They work, they go home, they tend their kids. They have no idea about the seething morass of insanity that is Social Justice. I knew I couldn't discuss SocJus directly - you can't discuss SocJus directly. But because of the change in legal precedent, a perfect opportunity was handed to me. So, I did the only thing I could:

I spoke up.

I brought up that the changes to the DASA legislation bring about a highly unpleasant legal situation, and I elaborated that I had been studying this law and what brought it about for over a year, and that I had concerns about how it could be applied towards our own employees, and specifically, those within the Department of Education. Neither the DASA Coordinator, nor any of the administrative staff at the bus company or school had any idea that this law could be as far-reaching as it was. For ten minutes, I held the floor and talked with the staff and indeed, other employees about an area where, uniquely, I had a bit of critical knowledge they didn't - and they were damned grateful to have it.

The issue with the DASA Law change is very simple: It's a slippery slope paradigm. I made it clear that if the district wanted to avoid both lawsuits and a hell of a lot of damage to its already-mediocre reputation (Northport has never had a good rep as far as bullying goes, with good reason), it had damn well better look into every case and insist on documentation and medical diagnosis for every single student who claims to be trans.

The reason is quite simple: Anyone with any real veterancy on the internet knows now that claiming to be "trans" is trendy, and they traditionally self-diagnose. Without this critical establishment, it's entirely possible, and indeed, probable that DASA legislation itself will be used to instead institutionalize bullying via the system, essentially doing the exact opposite of what the law was specifically intended to do - and that if this does happen, administrative, school, and transport officials - I.E. the gathered audience here - were going to be the fucking first on the chopping block.

Afterwards, I gave the DASA coordinator more information about the issues this new legal precedent sets, and what she can expect to see in the next few months. The transportation coordinator, in turn, also thanked me for my insight on the issue, and my Terminal Manager mused that things like this were why I was still employed despite being a ball-buster.

It was something small. It was something local. But I helped my home town, to quote my favorite copypasta, prepare for the storm, maggot.
 

IronJustice

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It's not a lost cause.

Check below the spoiler tag for more.

Today, I attended the mandatory DASA (Dignity for All Students Act) refresher and safety course. It's a three-hour session of us learning shit we already knew, mostly, caged with me having the opportunity to meet up with an old friend who is also the DASA Coordinator and is always a delight to talk with. Unfortunately, when I got the pamphlet for DASA today, something was wrong.

Something that made my blood run cold.

Something I immediately took a photo of and sent to both @Meowthkip and @KidKitty.

An entire six-page pamphlet about Trans students and "Gender Non-Standard" (nice wording, New York State) individuals being added to DASA. Included was a section involving preferred pronouns. "Mother fucker," I thought to myself. "This is the day I'm going to get fired for being pathologically unable to keep my fucking mouth shut, isn't it..?"

Such was not the case. As the Coordinator went on, she did something I didn't expect - she admitted that she knew nothing about this. Indeed, nobody in the entire educational section knew anything about this. I saw an opportunity, and even though I tend to be pretty quiet and introverted, I'm also willing to call bullshit where I see it and buck the system when required. My co-workers are old-school, and regular people. They work, they go home, they tend their kids. They have no idea about the seething morass of insanity that is Social Justice. I knew I couldn't discuss SocJus directly - you can't discuss SocJus directly. But because of the change in legal precedent, a perfect opportunity was handed to me. So, I did the only thing I could:

I spoke up.

I brought up that the changes to the DASA legislation bring about a highly unpleasant legal situation, and I elaborated that I had been studying this law and what brought it about for over a year, and that I had concerns about how it could be applied towards our own employees, and specifically, those within the Department of Education. Neither the DASA Coordinator, nor any of the administrative staff at the bus company or school had any idea that this law could be as far-reaching as it was. For ten minutes, I held the floor and talked with the staff and indeed, other employees about an area where, uniquely, I had a bit of critical knowledge they didn't - and they were damned grateful to have it.

The issue with the DASA Law change is very simple: It's a slippery slope paradigm. I made it clear that if the district wanted to avoid both lawsuits and a hell of a lot of damage to its already-mediocre reputation (Northport has never had a good rep as far as bullying goes, with good reason), it had damn well better look into every case and insist on documentation and medical diagnosis for every single student who claims to be trans.

The reason is quite simple: Anyone with any real veterancy on the internet knows now that claiming to be "trans" is trendy, and they traditionally self-diagnose. Without this critical establishment, it's entirely possible, and indeed, probable that DASA legislation itself will be used to instead institutionalize bullying via the system, essentially doing the exact opposite of what the law was specifically intended to do - and that if this does happen, administrative, school, and transport officials - I.E. the gathered audience here - were going to be the fucking first on the chopping block.

Afterwards, I gave the DASA coordinator more information about the issues this new legal precedent sets, and what she can expect to see in the next few months. The transportation coordinator, in turn, also thanked me for my insight on the issue, and my Terminal Manager mused that things like this were why I was still employed despite being a ball-buster.

It was something small. It was something local. But I helped my home town, to quote my favorite copypasta, prepare for the storm, maggot.

The LGBT rights thing really has nothing to do with the problems I was bringing up when I said its a lost cause.
 

bearycool

The Movie Night Queen
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The death of a system or a group is when it becomes absolutely extreme, with no though or logic.

Great example are the radicals during the French Revolution.

Also, that's why EDF is such a shithole, and cannot really produce lolcows.
 

Whatisgoingon

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True & Honest Fan
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Yeah, after all the shit happening the past year or so, I've started to simply not consider what "party" I am affiliated to or if I'm "left or right". It just makes people pick sides as if we were opposing teams that have to support our team mates even when they are wrong or awful, when instead we should be figuring out how to solve problems and cooperating. So instead I try to vote for who I think has the best grasp of the issues, although sometimes I feel like no one has a grasp on anything. *sigh*
 

Dudeofteenage

Mister Standfast
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It just makes people pick sides as if we were opposing teams that have to support our team mates even when they are wrong or awful, when instead we should be figuring out how to solve problems and cooperating.

Sometimes the best way to solve problems precludes cooperation. There are people whose interests are fundamentally opposed to one another and no amount of appeal to unity as an abstract can cover this up.
 

Jaimas

YOUR PEACEFUL LIFE IS NO MORE!!
True & Honest Fan
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I think the best thing I ever did, when it comes to politics, is to stop taking it so fucking seriously all the time. I had times where I took it too seriously, in the past, and it can take a toll on you. At the end of the day, it's useless; you vote for people. People who promise to do things a certain way. But they don't hold a majority, they have to compromise, and then they compromise on the very things that made you vote for them in the first place.

So what I did was, I shifted my views and began to see politics as something amusing. Something you can have a fun discussion about, something you can be interested in, but something you aren't going to personally influence in any way. I just focus on my own life instead and the lives of those closest to me, because that's an area in which I can have actual influence. Too much idealism is just pointless, because it will only lead to you becoming disillusioned.

I'm never going to solve world hunger, climate change or the Syrian refugee crisis, but just a week ago I was able to pay for the hospital bills of someone dear to me. I am helping a girl through college, pay for someone's medication, and support my family. I'm able to impact things that actually matter... on a small scale, but one that allows me to see the results with my own eyes. That's enough for me.

There is wisdom in the Prince of Darkness' words.
 

RepQuest

Unfunny
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Having been a political minority in my place of residence all my life, I sympathize with the lot of you. It doesn't help that people who act like there is no possibility of their political opponents having any good ideas whatsoever make up the majority of my lot, too, especially among the younger generation. Even though I loathe hearing people jumping up and down about how there needs to be "compromise" (which seems to be higher in my country whenever a certain political party is in power and not the other, but I digress), people who refuse to work with their opponents when they agree on certain issues because it lends the opposition legitimacy are holding their own agenda back in the long run. And yes, there are times when ideological divides are so great between political opponents that there really is no feasible room for compromise, which really needs to be an accepted reality in the current political mind, but the people who spurn help from nominal opponents are cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
 

Duke Nukem

Leader of the Anti-Chad Extermination Squad
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I grew up in a very political family, and I must say that as I grew up I found that a lot of their ideas just didn't add up or make sense. Like @Jaimas, my family is somewhat leaning to the left, and it really permeated a lot of their thinking and whatnot. Definitely hardcore Bush haters back when I was growing up and living with them, and they still try to throw their beliefs at me, even though I've kind of veered off that path.

Honestly, if the party told them that throwing newborn babies off of cliffs would help the economy or end world hunger or some dumbass bullshit like that, my family would probably happily go along with it unquestioningly.

If you want to be part of a political party because "you want to help people" or some other idealistic notion, you're probably in the wrong line of business.

People going along with their party of choice without questioning the ulterior motives is perhaps this country's biggest problem.

Yeah, after all the shit happening the past year or so, I've started to simply not consider what "party" I am affiliated to or if I'm "left or right". It just makes people pick sides as if we were opposing teams that have to support our team mates even when they are wrong or awful, when instead we should be figuring out how to solve problems and cooperating. So instead I try to vote for who I think has the best grasp of the issues, although sometimes I feel like no one has a grasp on anything. *sigh*

This. Fucking THIS

This country has a dark future, regardless of which side wins in 2016. I wont be voting, because nobody can fix this system.

The more I watch about potential contenders for the primaries, the more attractive I find the idea of leaving the country.
 
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