Yeah, their definition of 'hate group' was so strict they were flagging pro-self-defense groups as white supremacists.RICO sounds like a Hail Mary to me, but defamation may be a viable argument in some of these cases.
The argument goes something like this.
SPLC has a definition of "hate group" that seems to be somewhat strict:
Therefore, when they list an organization as such in their official list, they are essentially saying that it is an organization that by its very nature does these things.
To the extent such a statement is an opinion, it is probably protected, i.e. if they say fact A, fact B, fact C, therefore hate group, that probably passes muster.
To the extent such a statement is a factual assertion, it may not be.
If it is a protected opinion, then it doesn't matter in the least whether it's damaging to the targets of it. The audience of these claims can reach their own opinions, and if they choose not to do business with what they agree is a hate group, what the SPLC is doing is protected.
It isn't if it's a factual assertion that the organization is like or does things like the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazis, unless that's actually the case or they have a solid factual basis for it. Generally a public-facing organization is going to be a public figure for such purposes so if false, the claims must also be made with actual malice.
(This is about the CIS claim, not the claim this thread is about which is possibly not about a public figure at all.)
Oh boy, so they can settle any ongoing stuff and say "It was all that crazy asshole, we got rid of him, problem solved."Hmm, they just fired their founder for being a dirty racist...
You mean hunting a few hundred speds out in the middle of nowhere, three-quarters of whom are actually federal agents?Oh boy, so they can settle any ongoing stuff and say "It was all that crazy asshole, we got rid of him, problem solved."
Better than nothing, but I want to see the whole thing burn down. Hopefully to be replaced with a group actually doing what these asshole claim to do.
Maybe he's sick and about to die, so they are setting up a game of let's blame the dead guy. I don't think much is likely to come of the McInnes suit, although the lawyer this thread is about has some chance, but the real threats are probably years out when Dees will be conveniently dead.Oh boy, so they can settle any ongoing stuff and say "It was all that crazy asshole, we got rid of him, problem solved."
Well that's why it's gotta fall apart. A legitimate version would be by definition much, much smaller. But then, they wouldn't operate like an extortion racket either.You mean hunting a few hundred speds out in the middle of nowhere, three-quarters of whom are actually federal agents?
It was to fight poverty in the south in the beginnings but now it's only in name only.What i have to ask since i'm not even sure what the SPLC does besides discrimination for wrongthink, do they actually fight poverty in the south or is that only in name only?
I bet the SPLC board is kicking themselves right now for firing Morris the day before the New Zealand massacre. If they had Morris working the phones right now, how much do you think the SPLC could gross off this one horrible event?