Leftists who didn't fall for Trump Derangement Syndrome -

Higgins

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I'm pretty left leaning for the most part though the current political landscape has made it nearly impossible to talk like adults. Politics is the console wars for normalfags. I avoid the bottomless pit of exceptionalism that is TDS due to one reason: perspective. Growing the height of the Bush years, to see this generation of lefties demand I treat my friends and loved ones the same way bible thumpers treat their gay offspring over different political positions sickens me. Slight powerlevel, but my family comes from a shithole country. After learning about their country's history and the shit my family lived through to give me a decent life, hearing privileged middle/upper middle white kids sperg over Trump fell on my deaf ears.
 
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RavenCrow

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I consider myself more on the left, but the ridiculousness that comes from self identified democrats is retarded. Instead of focusing on how shitty their party is, and WHY they lost the last election and will probably lose the next, they can't stop bitching about how bad Mr. orange man is. I didn't believe "Trump Derangement Syndrome" was a thing until I started seeing it with my own eyes. I had to cut a few people off because I couldn't take their constant mental breakdowns.

So yeah, me lol.
 

Safir

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If anything, I got better. I'm a Soviet commie living in Russia, too poor to travel, so my view of worldwide immigration was informed by the local situation and kool-aid provided by the first-world "commies" at a forum I frequented, who seemed sensible at the time (on Gamergate, furries, troons, etc).

Trump won, the forum went full TDS on every single issue ("EXCEPTIONAL PRONOUNS ARE A RIGHT-WING FALSE FLAG OPERATION! EVERYONE MUST HAVE SEX WITH TROONS WHENEVER THEY WANT UNDER THREAT OF TORTURE AND EXECUTION"), I noped out of there and read up on things.
 

Slap47

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I consider myself more on the left, but the ridiculousness that comes from self identified democrats is exceptional. Instead of focusing on how shitty their party is, and WHY they lost the last election and will probably lose the next, they can't stop bitching about how bad Mr. orange man is. I didn't believe "Trump Derangement Syndrome" was a thing until I started seeing it with my own eyes. I had to cut a few people off because I couldn't take their constant mental breakdowns.

So yeah, me lol.
That is because there has been a shift in the left spectrum.

Both liberal and socialist parties have become extremely corporate and now use race issues to neglect workers issues.
A good example would be Jeremy Corbyn in the UK. He was viciously anti-EU because he liked democracy and hated workers getting undercut by slaves in other countries. Now he has shut up because hating the EU is racism.

Bernie has had to walk a fine line on race issues while the corporate Democrats have been going all all in on nonsense like slave reparations.
 

Feline Darkmage

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Literally a marxist who's favorite 2020 candidate is the grouchy vermont man and I'm here to say Trump Derangement is not okay. So count me in.

My personal favorite leftist take on #resistance Russiagate bullshit is, if Putin meddled after all, it's karma for those coups the imperialist CIA did on behalf of big oil. Payback's a bitch!
This take is true. It's karma for what they did and continue to do in places like Latin America and the Mid East.

Notice something? My critiques are usually from the left. Most of the critiques of TDS lefties are from the right. They literally keep attacking Trump for doing the few things I like him for.
I blame neoliberalism for this shit. It's as bad as neoconservatism but more pretentious because it added woke fake-populist bullshit that doesn't even help minorities, women, or workers.
 

vanilla_pepsi_head

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I'm a Conservative but would be considered left if I were American (I'm Canadian, I like our health care system and think most of our welfare programs are overall a good thing). In the US I get the sense that a lot of people just vote with whichever political party is less of a national embarrassment at any given time - Trump may be a fucking moron, but he starts looking pretty good when you put him in the same room as Ocasio Cortez or Maxine Waters. The over-the-top reactions to Trump were pretty great at first but NPCs screeching "ABLEISM RACISM TRANSPHOBIA RUSSIA" at everyone instead of making actual arguments got boring a long time ago.
 

welcometotherock

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So... for the bulk of his 2016 campaign, I was among the group that screeched autistically about Trump. I'm honestly ashamed to admit that, but it's the truth. If I really had to say why, it would most likely be the company I kept 3 years ago. A lot of the more vocal "friends" I had at that point (who eventually went on to block me) were LGBTQ+ and all about making sure you check your privilege and that and they'd often share shit from Occupy Democrats, The Other 98%, among other such pieces. Now, I was all about Bernie at that point so of course we had common ground. Add to that how some of Trump's own rhetoric at that point in time (i.e. forced registration of Muslims) actually disgusted me and I guess that's how we got along.

Of course, those "friendships" I had at that point ended up dissipating rather quickly when I said "I hate Trump, but I won't vote for Clinton either" after Bernie got fucked by the DNC. It didn't matter what my reasoning for disliking Clinton was because at the end of the day, I was saying a big "fuck you" to POCs, LGBTQ+ people, Muslims, and all sorts of other threatened minorities by NOT voting for her... meanwhile, a few months earlier, voting for Clinton meant we were giving a giant middle finger to those groups. A month after the DNC, I actually ended up befriending a far-right (and I do mean "far right," as in he's very much pro-capitalism) dude that I met through another friend of mine. We did have a lot of heated disagreements, but we also both agreed on a shitload of things. More to the point though, he pointed out a rather haunting fact: If Clinton won, she could literally start WW3 and the media would either gloss over it, vindicate her by saying that she's doing it for the greater good, or just not even care. If Trump won, every single thing he does - right down to the bowel movement - will be audited.

That statement alone basically got me to vote for Trump. At least this time if the POTUS turns another country into an anarchy-ridden shithole, he won't be able to walk away scot-free. My own disdain for the man is still there, mind you but still... that's my rationalisation for voting that way. As of right now, I firmly believe that Trump is poised for another victory. There are MANY factors working against him, but with the Democrats scrambling to find their establishment candidate who'll go over well with voters, there's no way that he can lose
 

HeyYou

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I was a kool-aid drinking anarchist with heavy inclinations towards Marxism. I was pretty okay with antifa showing up to defend peaceful protesters, which happened in a few cases. Then you get all the stories of antifa bashing people with bike locks or attacking veterans because they're too fucking stupid to realize those veterans aren't part of an event they're attacking. At that point, I realized just being on the left doesn't make you moral, and more importantly that authoritarian communism/marxism had infested anarchism and there's no way they're separating any time soon. The funny thing is that I didn't stop being an anarchist, but I want nothing to do with ancoms or even the idea of anarchism being extreme left wing. Left unity is a joke, and every time anarchists team up with communists or support communists they get gulag'd by the tankies. Also, not only is TDS rampant in the anarchist community, but they seem unable to accept that ostracizing the cops and veterans of America is just making them into a joke.

Max Stirner was 100% right, but not in the way ancoms think. He predicted obsessive idpol on the left before the Communist Manifesto was even published.
 
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queue-anon

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I'm a Conservative but would be considered left if I were American (I'm Canadian, I like our health care system and think most of our welfare programs are overall a good thing). In the US I get the sense that a lot of people just vote with whichever political party is less of a national embarrassment at any given time - Trump may be a fucking moron, but he starts looking pretty good when you put him in the same room as Ocasio Cortez or Maxine Waters. The over-the-top reactions to Trump were pretty great at first but NPCs screeching "ABLEISM RACISM TRANSPHOBIA RUSSIA" at everyone instead of making actual arguments got boring a long time ago.
The new Godwin's Law should be how quickly someone gets called "Boris" in an internet forum. And, really, if anything, the stereotypical Russian name should be Ivan.
 

Kiislova

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I'm pretty left leaning for the most part though the current political landscape has made it nearly impossible to talk like adults. Politics is the console wars for normalfags. I avoid the bottomless pit of exceptionalism that is TDS due to one reason: perspective. Growing the height of the Bush years , . To see this generation of lefties demand I treat my friends and loved ones the same way bible thumpers treat their gay offspring over different political positions sickens me. Slight powerlevel, but my family comes from a shithole country. After learning about their country's history and the shit my family lived through to give me a decent life, hearing privileged middle/upper middle white kids sperg over Trump fell on my deaf ears.
No one seems to remember the "good" old days of Bush, bible thumpers, and good-ol discrimination based on Ideology... Just like now but from the other side.

If Trump won, every single thing he does - right down to the bowel movement - will be audited.
I came to that reasoning during the campaign. If the clown got elected (it did) the whole world would be watching over the shoulder every single movement (and that is what is happening) while if "Her" won, we would have another "nobel peace price with tens of thousands of casualties" in the house.
 
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queue-anon

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No one seems to remember the "good" old days of Bush, bible thumpers, and good-ol discrimination based on Ideology... Just like now but from the other side.



I came to that reasoning during the campaign. If the clown got elected (it did) the whole world would be watching over the shoulder every single movement (and that is what is happening) while if "Her" won, we would have another "nobel peace price with tens of thousands of casualties" in the house.
The outrage over Janet Jackson's nip seems quaint by comparison.
 
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I was utterly sickened by how batshit insane the entire left got in late 2015 as the Trump train was accelerating. I definitely didn't want the Orange Man as my president (although back then I was a commie and more left-wing on social issues than I am now), and I thought Bernie was the only chance to stop him so I voted for him (I thought Bernie was too right wing on some issues though). Didn't vote in the election because I don't like Jill Stein and like hell am I voting for Killary Klinton. Meanwhile the left wing got even crazier--it seemed like the message they took home after years of electoral defeats was "go batshit insane, the Tea Party had the right idea", and then they decided to top the Tea Party. The left-wing equivalent of the lunatic fringe of the Tea Party is the mainstream left, blared 24/7 in the media which has gone to such utter shit that it makes Fox News and Breitbart look like top-tier journalism. Even fucking Infowars looks good compared to shit like Vice or Buzzfeed.

As for Donnie Drumpf himself, most of his policies are shit, especially his foreign policy (although still better than Hillary "Cold War II" Clinton). He's also not very good at his job--I'm not convinced he actually does much, I'm pretty sure his bros in the Senate and Mike Pence are behind most of his administration. His social policies on abortion are shit, and the fact he's appointed all these Supreme Court justices is proof we need term limits (maybe 12-16 years) since Trump's Supreme Court is making a new Lochner era which will fuck us over for years. He can't even do shit like the Muslim ban right, since it looks terrible and excludes countries like Saudi Arabia (the First Bank of Terrorism). His signature Wall is an utter waste of money and not fiscally conservative at all--I'm all for immigration control (we need less immigrants and we need to deport more illegals) but holy shit, why not kick half the money allotted for the wall to ICE and Border Patrol and shit and you know, create more jobs for Americans and stop/deport a ton of illegals? I bet the Wall will be built mostly by illegals anyway.

On the other hand, he has some sensible policies here and there, and I do respect the man for his ability to make retards lose their mind. I like to think of Trump as a villain, but the villain you can't help but love. I love his shitposting, and I sincerely hope we have more shitposters-in-chief in the future.
 

Jeremy Galt

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I had ODS. Obama derangement syndrome. I like Trump because:

  1. He's got enough money, so how do you bribe him? (Obama was worth 200,000 as senator, now he's worth 100mil+ ???))
  2. Trump just totally craters his enemies, leaves them in tears
  3. He already fulfilled a lot of his promises
  4. He's a big blowhard, and his skin is a foot thick and nothing penetrates it
  5. He's generally pro gun and anti abortion
  6. Lock her up!
  7. Anyone who has seen his rallies knows how good he is at arousing people
  8. His hair is a miracle of engineering
  9. He wants us to get back in space
  10. Pretty decent economy
  11. brought back a lot of manufacturing, which was thought to be impossible during the Obama years
  12. A LOT more, but I'm going to bed........
 

Midlife Sperglord

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I am left leaning, but my biggest issue with Trump is that his obsession with his image and his massive overreactions to criticism make him come across as extremely insecure and way too easy to troll.
 

VIVIIXI

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I always thought I leaned to the left, support rights for the gays, pro-environment and all that shit, but the more I get called a nazi or white supremacist because I don't blindly hate everything Trump does makes me question it. I'm not crazy about Trump and I thought it was baffling when he won (the freakouts were hilarious and totally worth it though), but the media going out of their way to demonize him and supporters as mini-Hitlers is disgusting and is causing a big divide between Americans that doesn't need to exist. If Trump runs again, I'm probably gonna vote for him if just because I trust him more than the left right now.
I'm left leaning and I voted for him.
Pretty sure there are a fair number of middle lefts who may not like Trump but don't consider him the second coming of Hitler. The noise factory gets too much airtime, IMHO.
I actually kind of like him because he pisses off the right people. Don't approve of his every decision and take what he says with a grain of salt, but we could do worse. I've also found myself pleasantly surprised by Pence, who was my bigger concern for personal reasons.
To be honest, I voted for him because the SJWs were becoming too much of a problem (especially in the media) and we needed a release valve because 4-8 more years of aquiescing to them could have had a similar effect to what Terrant was trying to do according to his manifesto, and I'd hate to have minorities made into scapegoats when that shit went down.

tl;dr I voted for him out of concern for the very reasons you mentioned.
 
I had ODS. Obama derangement syndrome. I like Trump because:

  1. He's got enough money, so how do you bribe him? (Obama was worth 200,000 as senator, now he's worth 100mil+ ???))
  2. Trump just totally craters his enemies, leaves them in tears
  3. He already fulfilled a lot of his promises
  4. He's a big blowhard, and his skin is a foot thick and nothing penetrates it
  5. He's generally pro gun and anti abortion
  6. Lock her up!
  7. Anyone who has seen his rallies knows how good he is at arousing people
  8. His hair is a miracle of engineering
  9. He wants us to get back in space
  10. Pretty decent economy
  11. brought back a lot of manufacturing, which was thought to be impossible during the Obama years
  12. A LOT more, but I'm going to bed........
Yeah, that stuff. Except 4, I don't think he has thick skin at all, judging by his whining about SNL making fun of him. But hey, what can you do, presidents are narcissists. I can only imagine how much Obama or Obama shills would have cried if Obama was represented with half the utter fucking hatred that they show toward trump.
 

Absolutego

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Yeah, that stuff. Except 4, I don't think he has thick skin at all, judging by his whining about SNL making fun of him. But hey, what can you do, presidents are narcissists. I can only imagine how much Obama or Obama shills would have cried if Obama was represented with half the utter fucking hatred that they show toward trump.
Can you imagine the apoplectic rage media coverage of the death of Anwar Al-Awlaki and his son would be if Obama had a (R) next to his name? They never want to take responsibility, but the ass-kissing the media gave to Obama is a huge part of why the progressive wing got so disillusioned with party leadership and shouty in 2016, and a huge part of the radical Justice Democrat movement the DNC has to deal with now came about.
 
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