Leftists who didn't fall for Trump Derangement Syndrome -

Can you imagine the apoplectic rage media coverage of the death of Anwar Al-Awlaki and his son would be if Obama had a (R) next to his name? They never want to take responsibility, but the ass-kissing the media gave to Obama is a huge part of why the progressive wing got so disillusioned with party leadership and shouty in 2016, and a huge part of the radical Justice Democrat movement the DNC has to deal with now came about.
Oh no fucking kidding. Could you imagine the stern looks Lester Holt would have given his viewers when talking about what a violation that was? Could you imagine the weird wall of teeth possessed by Savannah Guthrie being bared at us while she showed her moral outrage?

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(It's shocking how hard it was to find a picture of her making that face, considering if you watch her interview someone she's making that face the entire time)
 

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I consider myself quite left-leaning and when the race for presidency was underway, I thought Trump was the joke character and couldn't imagine him actually winning. Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I think he's Hitler and those comparisons need to stop too.

I thought I'd also share that I had a professor, who I assume is a leftist because he looked like he could have attended Woodstock in his younger years, looked like a beardless Tommy Chong even, who told the entire class "I know some of you might be upset about the election but try not to worry, you don't know what will happen; I'm 75, I've seen a lot of things".
 

Absolutego

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I consider myself quite left-leaning and when the race for presidency was underway, I thought Trump was the joke character and couldn't imagine him actually winning. Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I think he's Hitler and those comparisons need to stop too.

I thought I'd also share that I had a professor, who I assume is a leftist because he looked like he could have attended Woodstock in his younger years, looked like a beardless Tommy Chong even, who told the entire class "I know some of you might be upset about the election but try not to worry, you don't know what will happen; I'm 75, I've seen a lot of things".
Man I wish we had more of that sentiment from Boomers. Too many I know are full-on chicken little-ing over the Trump administration because they're part of the last demographic that takes 24/7 news channels seriously.
 

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I've always thought of myself as left leaning, but the sheer retardedness of a lot of the "liberal" people I came into contact with at college turned me off to the mainstream Democratic school of thought in a big way. The way people reacted after the 2016 election kind of solidified that for me. The liberals were so smug and assured in the intellectual superiority of their worldview that they didn't even consider that Clinton could lose the election. They never stopped to think that Hillary Clinton is easily one of the most vilified politicians in the history of the country. Of course she lost.

That being said, I still think Trump is a sleazebag and a terrible policy maker. Anyone who thinks he actually knows what he's doing is delusional in my opinion. But most of our presidents have been douchebags in a major way, they were just closeted about it. I do think the standard of leadership has been lowered though. There's no way the guy would have been elected 20 years ago.

In my opinion, The U.S. is a society in decline. I don't think our society can be improved in any significant way until some sort of terrible disaster befalls us and people actually experience real suffering on a massive scale. In that way, I kind of like Trump. I believe he can (and is) catalyzing and facilitating the process of the collapse of American society.
 

Starkiller88UnitedOwl9

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Koncorde is one of the Wikipedians and is one of the leftists who didn't fall for Trump Derangement Syndrome.



Ralgar is one of these. He didn't fall for the TDS.


BatteryIncluded (AKA Rowan Forest) hasn't fall into TDS.


JustARandommer of Reddit also.


Wyvernkeeper didn't.

 

DeadFish

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I don't even know where I'm at anymore, right or left. None of this shit makes any sense to me anymore, categorically, it all just feels so damn arbitrary. I thought I was left because I don't give a fuck what people do with their personal lives as long as they're not trying to fuck up society as a whole to accommodate it, but apparently that is more common in the right wing than I thought. I don't like seeing people who really need help end up suffering and starving to death in the streets and shit but I don't like seeing people who can pull their weight get coddled either. Which political party is "I don't fucking care, just make shit work right"
Try agorism. As for me I always had anarchist tendencies but didnt become conscious of it until af te r 2016.
 

Slap47

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I've always thought of myself as left leaning, but the sheer retardedness of a lot of the "liberal" people I came into contact with at college turned me off to the mainstream Democratic school of thought in a big way. The way people reacted after the 2016 election kind of solidified that for me. The liberals were so smug and assured in the intellectual superiority of their worldview that they didn't even consider that Clinton could lose the election. They never stopped to think that Hillary Clinton is easily one of the most vilified politicians in the history of the country. Of course she lost.

That being said, I still think Trump is a sleazebag and a terrible policy maker. Anyone who thinks he actually knows what he's doing is delusional in my opinion. But most of our presidents have been douchebags in a major way, they were just closeted about it. I do think the standard of leadership has been lowered though. There's no way the guy would have been elected 20 years ago.

In my opinion, The U.S. is a society in decline. I don't think our society can be improved in any significant way until some sort of terrible disaster befalls us and people actually experience real suffering on a massive scale. In that way, I kind of like Trump. I believe he can (and is) catalyzing and facilitating the process of the collapse of American society.
Liberals fail to recognize the disaster that is neoliberalism. Reigning in neoliberalism would solve most problems, especially those affecting poor minorities.

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DeadFish

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I've always thought of myself as left leaning, but the sheer retardedness of a lot of the "liberal" people I came into contact with at college turned me off to the mainstream Democratic school of thought in a big way. The way people reacted after the 2016 election kind of solidified that for me. The liberals were so smug and assured in the intellectual superiority of their worldview that they didn't even consider that Clinton could lose the election. They never stopped to think that Hillary Clinton is easily one of the most vilified politicians in the history of the country. Of course she lost.

That being said, I still think Trump is a sleazebag and a terrible policy maker. Anyone who thinks he actually knows what he's doing is delusional in my opinion. But most of our presidents have been douchebags in a major way, they were just closeted about it. I do think the standard of leadership has been lowered though. There's no way the guy would have been elected 20 years ago.

In my opinion, The U.S. is a society in decline. I don't think our society can be improved in any significant way until some sort of terrible disaster befalls us and people actually experience real suffering on a massive scale. In that way, I kind of like Trump. I believe he can (and is) catalyzing and facilitating the process of the collapse of American society.
I've noticed those on the right tend to be more conscious and comfortable way the world is. Many I know who voted for trump often said it's time to downgrade America cause we re in decline
 

Dick In a Drawer

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Liberals fail to recognize the disaster that is neoliberalism. Reigning in neoliberalism would solve most problems, especially those affecting poor minorities.

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100%, I'm probably on the political left for this forum, neoliberalism is a big issue in America but I don't consider myself a Marxist or even a socialist persay; I don't think neoliberalism == capitalism & way too many leftists have this nihilistic view that America is fundamentally fucked so you shouldn't like any aspects of it. I'm also way too distrusting of governments to truly support most leftists. I always saw obbessing over Trump as a distraction & an excuse from looking at how we got to Trump which after 4 years a good chunk of the left still hasn't understood. I'd say Matt Taibbi is probably one of the most sensible people on the left who never gave in to the TDS, I think he's said in recent years he's focused on trying to find issues that a majority of Americans should be able to agree on yet both parties have the opposite position from the public like being antiwar, being for free speech & the legitmate problems with our economy that never got fixed post 2008.
 
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Koncorde is one of the Wikipedians and is one of the leftists who didn't fall for Trump Derangement Syndrome.



Ralgar is one of these. He didn't fall for the TDS.


BatteryIncluded (AKA Rowan Forest) hasn't fall into TDS.


JustARandommer of Reddit also.


Wyvernkeeper didn't.

It’s still Reddit and they will be replaced with moderates who tow the line to leftists that will purge these pages from the web.
 

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I consider myself more left, pro BLM and all that even, so I’m no fan of Trump. But I dont even think the most dangerous thing about him is racism or sexism or that whole nine yards. I think it’s moreso his incompetence, and that his temperament is ill suited to lead this country. He’s a shitty president who can’t do his fucking job.
 

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This has been interesting to read.
I have to say that all of you are at least honest with yourselves, looked at the people around you, and asked "The hell is wrong with you? Your diatribes aren't helping anyone."
I am not a leftist at all, but in some cases, I can relate to some of you.
In 2016, I didn't vote for Trump and thought the whole election was a dumpster fire.
Flash forward to this year, my opinion on him has changed in that he hasn't entirely treated The Constitution like toilet paper and the fact he hasn't placated to the insanity currently platformed by the Democratic Party like a RINO would.
Sure he wasn't my first pick, but he is better in comparison to those running against him.
I still can't believe the Democrats haven't learned a damn thing in four years.
 
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Mrs Paul

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I'm probably a lefty compared to most people here, (surprise surprise), but then others think I'm not left enough. I'm the "FDR", look out for the little guy type, and as far as social issues, (race, religion, LGBT, etc), hey, as long as you're not hurting anyone, you do your thing. I've got way more important things to worry about than who has what in their pants, (unless I'm dating them), or what god you worship, as long as you don't want to force the rest of us to worship them too.

I can't stand Trump because I find him an obnoxious jackass, and I felt that way long before he became president. I don't find myself foaming at the mouth at each new action of his, more just facepalming at how fucking stupid he is. He's narcississt, and he can't ever admit it when he's wrong, nor can he disavow anyone who supports him, no matter how disgusting and vile they are. That's not a good thing for a politician. As a president, he's not so much evil but incompetant. (He's GREAT for The Onion, though. Especially his sons.)

But let's face it: "Derangement Syndrome" for a president is nothing new. People are STILL ranting about Bill Clinton, and he's been out of office for 20 years. NOT Hilary, but Bill. My grandfather was always blaming everything on Reagan. We're still hearing about Obama this, and Obama that, blah blah blah -- give it a rest.

I didn't like Hilary, but I felt she was the lesser of two evils. And if she had won, I guarantee you there would be the same kinds of bitching and moaning about her that there is about Trump. Biden's pretty "meh", although I think he'll do a decent job. He's old, he most likely won't run again. (Speaking of The Onion, I AM dissapointed that they didn't bring back "Diamond Joe".)

Sorry to ramble, I'm bored as shit.

I'd also like to add: I don't think Trump supporters are generally the enemy. There are people out there I love dearly who disagree with me totally when it comes to politics. Life would be boring if everyone agreed with everyone else.

(Although if you start tattooing your candidate's face on your boobs, no matter who it is, I do not know you)
 
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jeb-sama2

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But let's face it: "Derangement Syndrome" for a president is nothing new. People are STILL ranting about Bill Clinton, and he's been out of office for 20 years. NOT Hilary, but Bill. My grandfather was always blaming everything on Reagan. We're still hearing about Obama this, and Obama that, blah blah blah -- give it a rest.
Kinda surprised that we never hear anything at all about Dubya anymore
 

Syaoran Li

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Kinda surprised that we never hear anything at all about Dubya anymore
Bush mainly avoids the worst criticisms in retrospective mainly because of the fact that Obama continued nearly all of Bush's worst policies and the only other things to criticize about him is already covered with the Woke Left's hysterical hatred of Christianity. The Religious Right is dead and the neoliberals were every bit as scumfuck as the neocons, so the mainstream media sees no value in digging up that dead horse.

I'd also say a lot of it has to do with Bush more or less keeping his head down and staying out of the political sphere and public eye after he left office. Clinton and Obama still remained active in politics and the public eye years after they left office while Reagan still gets flak because the 1980 election was the point where the Sixth Party System had fully codified itself. The neocons and the Religious Right both really became a major force in the GOP thanks to Reagan.

Really, most of the criticisms of Bush in the modern era are either rolled into the criticisms of the Obama Administration or the general dunking on neocons and the Religious Right.

A lot of SJW's seem to think the dominant trend in the right is still Bush era conservatism when it's not even a thing outside the most milquetoast neocons like Ben Shapiro who's smart enough to throw his lot in with the populists or incumbents like Romney and Kristol.
 

Jon Conroy

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Honestly as a lefty I've just accepted that not every president is going to have my same political ideologies. I know President Trump is not a terrible president. He's not a good one though. Honestly trump was fucked from day one because the msn couldn't puppeteer its way into Trump. In countries like NK and CHN the government controls the news. In America news controls the government. Freedom of press has seemly become a double edge sword. On one head the press for local and state is still very beneficial. But on a federal level and nation wide the big news outlets are swaying your average citizen into thinking whatever agenda they are pushing. Even non political news sites seem to push things on the consumer and reader. People use to just flat out trust the news. And when the news pushes the idea that Trump is going to end American life as we know it then you get ideology and people who are so afraid of him and he becomes the boogeyman. I genuinely believe that if the media wasn't run by people who tend to lean left and by people who are more traditional or blue color then you would find that the presidents approval ratings skyrocket. Honestly I voted for him even as a Democrat. Hillary Clinton has flip flopped on so many issues that I'm surprised that she is called Flippary. Biden on the other hand is by far worse for the country simply because he has put more citizens in jails because of drug crimes. Mostly weed. Honestly I'm more afraid if Pence the prince of Praying the gay away would do to us. Even more so I'm afraid that Biden would somehow mishandle the country into a civil rights era levels of race hostility. To this as a citizen I simply take the approach that if my president is ever not up to the ability we as a people can take our government the way it was formed. It seems extreme to say a revolution would even remotely work. The Battle of Blair Mountain is a prime example of what happens. I am not afraid of Trump. I am afraid of what happens if Trump and the government fails.
 

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Honestly don't know if I can even count as a leftist. Took the political compass test and it listed me as a liberal. As a libtard, I could be leftist in the eyes of right wingers and yet funnily enough to people left of me, I can't be left wing because liberals are right wing or some shit, I dunno. I can say American politics may as well be its own beast. That said, if I can count as leftist, I haven't fell for TDS mainly because I just wasn't much of a politically active guy. My views were as some have stated: don't give a shit about a person being straight, gay, Christian, etc. so long as they aren't harming others and the like, women can abort or not so long as its their choice though I could disagree on certain abortions like sticking a metal stick on a fully grown fetus if that's actually a thing still being done, and better rights for workers in regards to the fields they work in. On that same note, I'm pretty much 90% pro-gun ownership though I could see how one might want some gun control at least in examining the mental health of another and not minding capitalism so long as it's not really screwing most if not all people and the corporations and their monkey suits pay their fair share in taxes and the like, and like some Californian Kiwis, I like to make a crack at my own state with its share of problems and fuck ups.

All this said, I'm not a fan of Trump either. I see him as nothing more than an old man full of hot gas that drained the swamp to put in his own Trump brand of political swamps., and with a fellow Kiwi I spoke with off-site I can see him as incompetent. And more over, I'm not really trusting of the politicians of the US. Pretty much cynical in seeing them as self-serving and willing to say sweet nothings and the like at worst to secure your vote and at best, they may truly want to help but are either over their head or are gonna be cock-blocked by other politicians because those guys want shit their way or more money from their lobbyist and corporate friends and the like.

This may as well be a consequence of me not being politically aware or active but I feel this current climate is completely fucked by extremist on both sides. Leftist that may as well sling chud and nazi at whatever they don't like just as there's Right wingers slinging cuck and commie at whatever they don't like. Fuck it all, those guys may as well just be two sides of the same autistic screeching coin, whether they are truly big in number or are just inflated by their own insanity fromwhere they circlejerk on places like Twitter and Reddit.
 

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Kinda surprised that we never hear anything at all about Dubya anymore
So many aspects of the Dubya years have been memory holed so thoroughly it's like they never even happened at all, which is honestly kind of eerie.

There's also so much that is bitterly ironic today like the left going on and on about how the Dubya years were just like 1984 while today making sure everyone loves Big Brother BLM.
 
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