Lemme talk about "Great Art" in comics, featuring: Olivier Ledroit - and it's only part one!!!

edricluffie

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All right, as the subject says, I wanna discuss about great comic artwork today. When I say "great", I really mean it, it's not just good but GREAT.
As an artist, I would love nothing more than to post my own art to showcase my superior skills and compels plebeians to worship me, but today is not the day, today is the day where I use my credential as an artist to worship another artist.

Enter Olivier Ledroit, perhaps most famously known as the artist to the comic Requiem:Vampire Knight. Olivier is not exactly an unknown, he is pretty well known in certain circles, especially among French artists. But Olivier is not exactly the name that comes to mind when weebs think of an artist. It was only recently that I came across Requiem: Vampire Knight (RVK) that my jaw was dropped due to seeing his art.

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Basically, this is the art quality of the comic pages, ALL OF IT.

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I don't want to show too many pages for the fear of spoiling it, but man.... in the category of the most detailed comic art, he is the no.1 spot, no contest.

Have you ever picked up a comic due to it's gorgeous cover and felt disappointed when reading it because the interior art is a far cry from the cover? Not only the quality is lower (which is ok, since it's comic), but the style is also very different?

Olivier does no such thing, every single panel is as meticulous as the cover, and it never drop in quality throughout subsequent volumes, but instead, it goes even more epic than the last. I could almost describe every volume as an artbook with a story (the author isn't him). Yes each volume does take a long time, but as an artist, even in the time he took to produce so much artwork, it's actually damn fast.

I rate his art objectively through the lens of effort, detail, consistency and style. Personally, I don't like his style of aesthetic, but it fits very well with the story & universe that he is doing. I could go on in detail about the pros and cons of his artwork, but it will be too long, so I'll probably write about it another time on my tumblr blog.

So, I just hope he gets more exposure here, as I find it a pity that an artist of his caliber is not too well known in the mainstream comic art. Such a talent is extremely rare, I've read too many comics, jaw dropped by many of the arts, but never in my life felt so overwhelmed by the sheer magnitude of a comic art. Olivier Ledroit has no equal in the arena of details.

I wish I was rich enough, cause I will be commissioning him immediately if I do. He will paint for me until he dies.
 

LazyLizard

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Jin-joon Park's art in Her Summon is amazing, mixes weeb trash with amazing grand art
 

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Very happy to see someone talking about Requiem Vampire Knight. It should be much better known for how bizarre and amusing the story is and how high-quality the artwork is. I remember being baffled when I first picked them up six or seven years ago that I'd only found out about them from tracking down the writer's other work (he's best known for Marshal Law, superhero satire both better and funnier than anything Garth Ennis has produced).

I'll briefly cover one artist while I'm here.

The first is Sean Phillips. He's best known for his work in collaboration with Ed Brubaker across a range of projects. I think he has an almost-perfect ability to capture a noir feeling (I'm unable to give any detailed technical explanation of why it's good, not being a visual art guy - I'm merely reporting some of the artists that I've noticed in my far larger experience of being a comics nerd). Here's one of the covers from a cosmic horror/noir book they did together.

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And another from within one of the books that merges noir, adventure pulp and superheroes (genres with a lot of common DNA, to be sure):

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Brubaker and Phillips work together fantastically; if anyone likes the look of the art but doesn't want to read mega-nerd stuff, they have a series of comics that are straight-up noir crime tales in the real world, entitled, appropriately, Criminal. Very good.

I may return here to gush about John Cassaday and Gary Frank later, who do more conventional superhero stuff but do it incredibly well (Cassaday's work in Planetary is nonpareil)! Edit: Oh, and Tomm Coker from Black Monday Murders is fast earning himself a plac in my heart. The work there is absolutely beautiful noir horror, with amazing shading and some of the best use of colour.
 
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sadbird

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Jin-joon Park's art in Her Summon is amazing, mixes weeb trash with amazing grand art
not sure if joking or just didn't pick a better example.
I read through a good portion of Requiem. It's amazing but it's also so ridiculously over the top and hilariously edgy- BUT it doesn't actually take itself seriously. Of course you can't have a good comic art thread without talking about Juanjo Guarnido, the artist behind Blacksad.
The comic is done in watercolor, and in the books he also discusses the processes he took to make scenes which is a real treat.
With a lot of artists resorting to cheap tricks such as throwing in models, tracing and paintovers, i'm happy when I can look at something that is authentic and full of life.

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LazyLizard

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not sure if joking or just didn't pick a better example.
I read through a good portion of Requiem. It's amazing but it's also so ridiculously over the top and hilariously edgy- BUT it doesn't actually take itself seriously. Of course you can't have a good comic art thread without talking about Juanjo Guarnido, the artist behind Blacksad.
The comic is done in watercolor, and in the books he also discusses the processes he took to make scenes which is a real treat.
With a lot of artists resorting to cheap tricks such as throwing in models, tracing and paintovers, i'm happy when I can look at something that is authentic and full of life.

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check it out for yourself, story is garbage as is the characters but the art is amazing
 

edricluffie

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I find Alex Ross's art really unique and beautiful, reminds me of the 60's
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Yeah, Alex Ross, is amazing too. I put him somewhat similar to Marvel's Adi Granov, technically great, but there something I can't quite convey that doesn't put him on the same pedestal as Ledroit. (in terms of details, not quality)
Ledroit is like, one, there is only one that puts in so much details as him. His level of details is not something that an artist can just one day say "Imma do details as much as Ledroit", because it's that insane, and I say that as an artist myself. Adi and Ross, does great art, but usually for one volume, Ledroit did it for 11 consecutive volumes! And Ledroit has to design and visualize all the concept by himself!
Quality wise, they are all great, but effort/details wise, it doesn't seem similar.
not sure if joking or just didn't pick a better example.
I read through a good portion of Requiem. It's amazing but it's also so ridiculously over the top and hilariously edgy- BUT it doesn't actually take itself seriously. Of course you can't have a good comic art thread without talking about Juanjo Guarnido, the artist behind Blacksad.
The comic is done in watercolor, and in the books he also discusses the processes he took to make scenes which is a real treat.
With a lot of artists resorting to cheap tricks such as throwing in models, tracing and paintovers, i'm happy when I can look at something that is authentic and full of life.

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This is nice, there is really a sense of artistry here, I would say he is a little similar to Alex Alice in terms of details, whom I want to cover about soon.
I am gonna check out this Blacksad comic, but it seems this Juanjo Guarnido doesn't have a lot of comic done yet?
 

edricluffie

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check it out for yourself, story is garbage as is the characters but the art is amazing
This is good, in fact I like it, but man..... this isn't even close to the level of details in Hongkong manhwa, much less Ledroit. It's good, but not unique.
I am not putting down the artist, but here I want to mention artists that are so out there, beyond good, separate from others.
As I've mentioned, I don't even like Ledroit's aesthetic choice, but his dedication on details put him so far beyond others.
 

sadbird

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Yeah, Alex Ross, is amazing too. I put him somewhat similar to Marvel's Adi Granov, technically great, but there something I can't quite convey that doesn't put him on the same pedestal as Ledroit. (in terms of details, not quality)
Ledroit is like, one, there is only one that puts in so much details as him. His level of details is not something that an artist can just one day say "Imma do details as much as Ledroit", because it's that insane, and I say that as an artist myself. Adi and Ross, does great art, but usually for one volume, Ledroit did it for 11 consecutive volumes! And Ledroit has to design and visualize all the concept by himself!
Quality wise, they are all great, but effort/details wise, it doesn't seem similar.

This is nice, there is really a sense of artistry here, I would say he is a little similar to Alex Alice in terms of details, whom I want to cover about soon.
I am gonna check out this Blacksad comic, but it seems this Juanjo Guarnido doesn't have a lot of comic done yet?
There's 5 stories available, but they're all full length, my personal favorite is "A Silent Hell", Red Soul comes in a close second.

The webtoon is okay, it seems more like the artist is character focused but in majority backgrounds are unfocused if they have a part at all (not counting being in literal space) and when they are it's kind of bland and lifeless. Not to discredit their ability to do better, anyone can if they try, i'm just not keen on the recurrent use of paintovers.
 

Koresh

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tbh I'm not a big fan of the more realistic comic styles. I don't really know how to put it in words. I just don't see the point of having a medium where you can do literally fucking anything and then just doing realism. That's just my opinion though.

Lee Weeks and Nathan Fox are fucking gods though imo. I've seen people rank them lower than Greg Land because it's less realistic, but that's fucking ridiculous to me. Imo Lee and Nate are top tier comic artists.

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Chris Ware

Probably best known for his Acme Novelty Library series and the graphic novels Jimmy Corrigan, the Smartest Kid on Earth. He’s one of the best alternative comics creators out there but I think it’s best not to read his works if you’re suffering from depression and have suicidal tendencies. As a story teller he’s pretty bleak.

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Chris Ware

Probably best known for his Acme Novelty Library series and the graphic novels Jimmy Corrigan, the Smartest Kid on Earth. He’s one of the best alternative comics creators out there but I think it’s best not to read his works if you’re suffering from depression and have suicidal tendencies. As a story teller he’s pretty bleak.

The smartest kid on earth looks like the inspiration for the Pipboy. Also

"An indefensible attempt to justify the despair of those who have never known true tragedy." I'm stealing this.
 
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