Let's Sperg Let's Play Victoria: An Empire Under the Sun - With actual audience participation!
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Honka Honka Burning Love
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Kiwi Russia : Primary Export...Russian Meme Videos.
well, we're drinking all the vodka, so...
Honka Honka Burning Love
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Challenge
ACCEPTED
Though really despite voting for USA (I had to) I kinda wanted Netherlands to win because we could cause mass chaos while not actively taking one of the big players out of the game.
Rebel Wilson
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I would like to be involved in this especially since we are playing Russia. To Tsargrad! To Isfahan!
Pl: this thread is a real blast from the past. I still have my copy of this game on CD ROM.
Pl: this thread is a real blast from the past. I still have my copy of this game on CD ROM.
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Radical Cadre
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QUIT PUSSY FOOTING AROUND, FAGGOTS. YOU ARE ALL A DISGRACE.
AND IF IT ISN'T ACCOMPANIED BY A HOCKEY GAME, FUCK YOU!!!
AND IF IT ISN'T ACCOMPANIED BY A HOCKEY GAME, FUCK YOU!!!
That was half my reasoning, the other half was equal parts owning Indonesia and being in a good spot to fuck with France, because I hate the French.
After about ten seconds I was asking myself, "Hey, wait, isn't that the trailer audio for Mother Russia Bleeds?"
I have full faith we'll make it appropriate for this run.
JongleJingle
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With Russian supremacy confirmed, I will now officially change my title from Obersturmführer to Polkovnik. It's only thematically appropriate really.
As a quick aside, I must place attention to Egypt. If we are to expand into Africa, we must ensure an absolute control over Egypt. Right now I'm thinking of pathways that would be the quickest but most efficient to gaining a stranglehold, so I made this map of our immediate surroundings.
Dubbed the Dzhingl Dzhongl Plan, my idea is that by charging through Syria and avoiding Saudia Arabia, Iraq and Iran for the time being, we can grab Egypt with little trouble. From there, our focus can be placed on China, Germany and potentially the Koreas. In fact, another plot of mine is that we infiltrate China THROUGH Korea; Using N.Korea as a staging point, we can hit Beijing right in the pussy.
At least, that's how I'm HOPING this will go down.
As a quick aside, I must place attention to Egypt. If we are to expand into Africa, we must ensure an absolute control over Egypt. Right now I'm thinking of pathways that would be the quickest but most efficient to gaining a stranglehold, so I made this map of our immediate surroundings.
Dubbed the Dzhingl Dzhongl Plan, my idea is that by charging through Syria and avoiding Saudia Arabia, Iraq and Iran for the time being, we can grab Egypt with little trouble. From there, our focus can be placed on China, Germany and potentially the Koreas. In fact, another plot of mine is that we infiltrate China THROUGH Korea; Using N.Korea as a staging point, we can hit Beijing right in the pussy.
At least, that's how I'm HOPING this will go down.
That's very optimistic. if Iranq or Arabia hits turkey or Syria your Dzhongl gets cut right through the middle.
JongleJingle
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Yeah, looking at it now the Saudis or Iranians would fuck our supply lines. How about holding in Syria for a while and making sure the sandies don't try to pull some shit off?
Rebel Wilson
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Persia. I believe at the 1836 start Muhammad Ali controls all of the Levant which means we can avoid conflict with Constantinople (and its dog in London) completely. But it will be a race to Cairo as they tend to declare war almost immediately
Persia and Nejd are soft targets in vanilla i seem to recall.
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Yob tyovu mat.
Literally means fuck your mother, general term for Russian cursing that has double (or more) meanings. Can also just be called mat.
Like saying "fuck your mother?" means "really?" and saying back "fuck your mother!" means "yes, really!" etc.
We'll hit our enemies so hard their cocks will fly off and fuck them right in their new clapped-out cunts, comrades.
As Russians we now must speak in mat constantly, refer to the Devil's relations when things go wrong, and say nichevo (it can't be helped, there's nothing to be done, etc.) a lot.
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I'm just going to put this up front, I'm joining the "Genocide bugmen" caucus, and will support all actions against China.
Zaryiu2
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My idea, in no particular idea, as far as territorial expansion:
Satellite the Ottoman to avoid the westerners from attacking us in a Crimean war, stop Germany formation, take Poland,, the Prussian provinces so even if Germany is made it will be with a crown from the gutters, colonize Siberia, the balkans are ours, side with China against the Brits but looking for an opening to get Vladivostok territory, Manchuria and either Ally or conquer Korea, central Asia (aka the Stans) aren't a difficult target and from there Persia can be brought in our sphere of influence in one way or another, India can be wrested from the brits. Colonially there are options: Alaska as a base to expand a colony in North America, potential, among others, springboards for colonial expansion in se Asia include Brunei, Johore or Dai Nam and in Africa Zanzibar, Kenya, Egypt or The Zulu territory can serve the same role
Not all are realistic but the options exist. Для России-матушки!
Satellite the Ottoman to avoid the westerners from attacking us in a Crimean war, stop Germany formation, take Poland,, the Prussian provinces so even if Germany is made it will be with a crown from the gutters, colonize Siberia, the balkans are ours, side with China against the Brits but looking for an opening to get Vladivostok territory, Manchuria and either Ally or conquer Korea, central Asia (aka the Stans) aren't a difficult target and from there Persia can be brought in our sphere of influence in one way or another, India can be wrested from the brits. Colonially there are options: Alaska as a base to expand a colony in North America, potential, among others, springboards for colonial expansion in se Asia include Brunei, Johore or Dai Nam and in Africa Zanzibar, Kenya, Egypt or The Zulu territory can serve the same role
Not all are realistic but the options exist. Для России-матушки!
Russia, 1836
Russia in 1836 is a deeply backwards country that still lucked out a great deal in the Congress of Vienna, recieveing the lion's share of Poland (that bulge-like zone, known as Congress Poland). We have few enemies at the moment except for the British, who are determined to keep our expanison in check as they have designs on India and China themselves. Relations right now with other countries are mild, but its clear that they consider Russia an Asiatic country with little actual relation to Europe.
The Council is looking to change that.
I begin by performing my usual tactic of pushing taxes across all three classes to maximum. The population will start ot gain militancy (and thus revoltrisk) at 49% tax, so effectively I will never tax any of them beyond that level as no amount of money is worth the crazy revolts you'll get if you push things too far. Tariffs are pushed all the way to 100%, which nets the government piles of money in exchange for weakening the ability of our Capitalists to do business.
However, we are currently a backwards shithole mostly ruling over a tremendous population of uneducated serfs. The rich in this country are overwhelmingly Aristocrats, who essentially exist in this game to collect money and do nothing useful. We have a few Capitalist pops, but they are not relevant right now. With the money I've begun raising from the tremendous budget surplus I have pushed Education, Crime Fighting and Defense Spending to maximum. Education will increase the literacy of our population over time, something Russia desperately needs right now. Crime Fighting will stamp out criminal enterprises that lower our profits and raise revoltrisk, and Defense Spending will cause more of the population to mobilize into soldiers and thus raise our Manpower, which you will notice is currently at zero (its those two soldiers standing next to each other in the top left of the map frame).
Here are the relevant stats for our Voting Rights, Reforms and Population. Population will of course change significantly as we conquer, but otherwise will stay the same as nobody is going to want to immigrate to Russia. We will get significant emigration, but that will mostly be minorities out of Russia which is what we want since that leaves us with more living space for Russians to colonize.
Voting Rights are right where I like them to be. In pieces, with the journos beaten and stomped on like the scum that they are, and with traffic-blocking protests illegal. Reforms are a little more grim as they openly reflect that our country is a shithole with no healthcare, no workhour limits, minimum wages, unemployment subsidies or, importantly, pensions. Pensions are a particular sticking point as a lack of them will eventually raise the militancy of your Soldier popualtion, since they know they're basically fucked when the army uses them up. Right now this is nothing to worry about as our population's Consciousness and Plurality are quite low. I will get into those later.
We have a pitiful army, composed of only about 12 Infantry divisions with some attachments and about 9 Cavalry divisions, which are mostly useless except for the fact that they gain morale very quickly. They also get slaughtered in battle very quickly so I find their morale bonus to be dubious. They do however move across the map like three times as fast as Infantry on a forced march, so I like to break them up and use them as patrols . We have two based in our capital in St. Petersburg, two based in Congress Poland, two based in Crimea and two based in the east in Ufa on the off chance the Yakutians get uppity. The rest of our infantry I have assemble at Moscow so I can divide them up into more formidable units.
While I'm at it I import enough arms and canned food to raise our Mobilization pool. Mobilization is essentially how you can avoid having to pay for having a large army, at the cost of needing a couple of months to mobilize your reserves when you hit the button. The catch is certain policies will limit how large your mobilization pool can be, on top of the fact that its limited by population anyway. Additionally, you can only increase the pool every couple of years, and it requires 40 Small Arms and 40 Canned Food to do so. Canned Food is fairly cheap, but Small Arms are one of the most important resources in the game since you need them to set up military units. Our economy takes a dip long enough for me to get the first increase off.
Belgium comes into existence with its independence guaranteed by like every single European power that borders it. This relationship is why its incredibly hard to retake Belgium as the Netherlands, though its not quite impossible.
France also goes to war with Aldjazair, a tiny Muslim sultanate rulling a portion of Northern Africa. In reality Aldjazair covered more territory, but its empire was weak and kind of liminal in its control so the game represents that by just making them something of a rump state. France almost always annexes this country.
With our strategic situation made clear and my efforts underway to expand the army and stabilize the economy, the time has come for the Council to vote.
Ruling Party
The blue flower means Conservative, the yellow means Liberal, while the blue sword is Reactionary and the yellow sword is Anarcho-Liberal. ALs are more or less old-timey Libertarians, mixed with a bit of proto-Randian Objectivism. If you like having zero control over anything in this fucking game, vote AL every time and watch your country get ripped to shreds. The population will also gain militancy based on how much the ruling party differentiates from their ideology. So Conservatives will be more fine with a Reactionary government than Liberals will, etc.
Political parties are nice and easy this time around. Only four of them currently exist. Economy and Trade are almost interchangable, with the exception that Economy will give bonuses to Capitalists allowing them to build factories easier. Right now, Interventionism, Laissez Faire and Free Trade are of no special benefit to us as the Capitalists are about as broke as the peasants and mostly non-existent as a class. If we vote in a party with any one of those economic poliicies, we will have no control over whether or not we can build factories, and nobody to actually build them. The State Capitalism of the Panslavics is essentially a planned economy, with the difference in this game being that it doesn't penalize Capitalists as strongly as the actual Planned Economy type would. Under State Capitalism, I would have the maximum control over the government's industry.
Religion is basically unimportant. I've put full on Atheist regimes in power over devout Muslim nations before and if the people actually revolt, its usually over literally anything else. Minority is somewhat important in that Full Citizenship allows you to promote peasants of any race or ethnicity to the more educated classes that would allow them to work in your factories (regular dipshit farmers and laborers cannot work in factories). Limited Citizenship allows minority pops to convert to accepted pops easier, while Residence means that the smelly foreigners should be happy we aren't just straight up killing them all. Russia has a very large Russian population, and also various minorities in the country are accepted citizens such as Ukranians, Byleorussians, etc, so we don't have to worry as much about Citizenship right now as we already have a very large labor base.
War Policy determines how much money we can spend on Defence Spending and Military Upkeep. Defence Spending raises your Manpower and Leadership while Military Upkeep determines the maximum size of your Divisions (up to 10,000 troops in each). Basically, if either of these get limited, our neighbors will walk all over us. Pro-Military and Jingoism do not limit our spending, and Jingoism actually makes it cheaper at the cost of damaging our relations with all neighboring countries slowly over time.
Your Options Are:
The Slavophiles (Conservative)
The Westernizers (Liberal)
Panslavic (Reactionary)
Radicals (Anarcho-Liberal)
Remember to vote for us, not for yourself. You may hate Fascism, Monarchy, and/or Communism etc in real life but here they could mean the difference between the life and death of our great nation!
Where to Expand?
Both the Pan-Slavics and Slavophile parties propose that we invade and dismantle the Ottoman Empire as soon as possible, to free our oppressed Orthodox brethren in the Balkans from Muslim rule. Moldavia, Wallachia and Serbia are Ottoman satellites and the Ottomans will be compelled to defend them if we declare war, so we can sidestep any European alliances the Ottomans might make in the unfolding Second Oriental Crisis.
Council member JongleJingle has proposed a radical plan to reach Africa by crossing the entire Middle East, which would mean taking Iraq/Mesopotamia from the Ottomans instead of the Balkans, leaving our Orthodox brethren in bondage while we race for a piece of the African pie. However, our border with the Ottomans in Caucasus is exstensive, and there is a significant population of Orthodox Armenians still under Ottoman rule that we could free in the process of seizing the Middle East. Persia is also an option for expansion but it will almost immediately bring us into conflict with the British. Taking Egypt will surely bring us into conflict with the British in Africa anyway, so why not take Persia on top of that?
Central Asia is a harsh and savage land, filled with many small petty bickering Khanates. It is the historical route the Russian Empire took colonially, and I would also spend resources colonizing those empty portions in Siberia while I'm at it. This is the safest route and would require almost zero effort from our military to subjugate the Khanates and Afghanistan. However, aside from some opium, the gains would be pitiful.
China is vast but uncivlized. Its armies would be no match for ours. I could quite easily carve off Mongolia and Manchuria in only a single war. This would, however, afford the Ottoman Empire time to win its war with Egypt and grow more powerful. Focusing on China will also make our forces concentrated in the Far East, where they will be quite useless if we are attacked by a European power.
Your Options Are:
The Slavophile Plan (Invade the Ottomans, seize the Balkans)
Polkovnik JongleJingle's Plan (Invade the Ottomans, seize Mesopotamia and Armenia, specify whether or not you want us to go after Persia too)
Subjugate Central Asia (Again specify whether or not you want to include Persia)
Cut China Down to Size (Take Mongolia and Manchuria)
Who is Our Enemy?
Prussia is smaller and weaker than us right now but that can change fast if they manage the feat of German Unification, which they surely will. Defeating Prussia means we could carve off more chunks of Poland's lucrative industrial territories. Additionally, achieving an overwhelming victory on Prussia and turning them into a Satellite State would end the threat of German Unification once and for all, but it would make acquiring more of Poland essentially impossible.
Austria is large and currently formidable but will weaken as time goes on. Ruthenia-Galicia is rightful Russian land as far as the Pan-Slavics are concerned, while Transylvania will have to be wrested from their grasp if we are to realize an independent Romanian client state. Slovenia and Croatia are Slavic, but are Catholic rather than Orthodox.
If we are going to focus on taking Ottoman territory anyway, perhaps it would be pertinent to destroy as much of their empire as quickly as possible, damn whatever the Germans are up to.
Your Options Are:
Prussia
Austria
Ottoman Delenda Est
Who is Our Friend?
Given the way this game goes we will border the UK sooner or later. It may be a good idea to try and buddy up to them right now. The UK AI is programmed to clash with us over Persia howver.
Its possible we could make German Unification work for us and buddy up with Prussia right now. Allying with Austria is a pointless waste of time as they will swiftly be overpowered by Prussia in a few years anyway. Germany would be a very powerful ally indeed, but would we be able to keep them interested?
Or at the end of the day we could save the money we would spend making friends and not bother increasing relations with anyone.
Your Options Are:
The British Empire
Prussia
The Bear Stands Alone
Remember your
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Russia in 1836 is a deeply backwards country that still lucked out a great deal in the Congress of Vienna, recieveing the lion's share of Poland (that bulge-like zone, known as Congress Poland). We have few enemies at the moment except for the British, who are determined to keep our expanison in check as they have designs on India and China themselves. Relations right now with other countries are mild, but its clear that they consider Russia an Asiatic country with little actual relation to Europe.
The Council is looking to change that.
I begin by performing my usual tactic of pushing taxes across all three classes to maximum. The population will start ot gain militancy (and thus revoltrisk) at 49% tax, so effectively I will never tax any of them beyond that level as no amount of money is worth the crazy revolts you'll get if you push things too far. Tariffs are pushed all the way to 100%, which nets the government piles of money in exchange for weakening the ability of our Capitalists to do business.
However, we are currently a backwards shithole mostly ruling over a tremendous population of uneducated serfs. The rich in this country are overwhelmingly Aristocrats, who essentially exist in this game to collect money and do nothing useful. We have a few Capitalist pops, but they are not relevant right now. With the money I've begun raising from the tremendous budget surplus I have pushed Education, Crime Fighting and Defense Spending to maximum. Education will increase the literacy of our population over time, something Russia desperately needs right now. Crime Fighting will stamp out criminal enterprises that lower our profits and raise revoltrisk, and Defense Spending will cause more of the population to mobilize into soldiers and thus raise our Manpower, which you will notice is currently at zero (its those two soldiers standing next to each other in the top left of the map frame).
Here are the relevant stats for our Voting Rights, Reforms and Population. Population will of course change significantly as we conquer, but otherwise will stay the same as nobody is going to want to immigrate to Russia. We will get significant emigration, but that will mostly be minorities out of Russia which is what we want since that leaves us with more living space for Russians to colonize.
Voting Rights are right where I like them to be. In pieces, with the journos beaten and stomped on like the scum that they are, and with traffic-blocking protests illegal. Reforms are a little more grim as they openly reflect that our country is a shithole with no healthcare, no workhour limits, minimum wages, unemployment subsidies or, importantly, pensions. Pensions are a particular sticking point as a lack of them will eventually raise the militancy of your Soldier popualtion, since they know they're basically fucked when the army uses them up. Right now this is nothing to worry about as our population's Consciousness and Plurality are quite low. I will get into those later.
We have a pitiful army, composed of only about 12 Infantry divisions with some attachments and about 9 Cavalry divisions, which are mostly useless except for the fact that they gain morale very quickly. They also get slaughtered in battle very quickly so I find their morale bonus to be dubious. They do however move across the map like three times as fast as Infantry on a forced march, so I like to break them up and use them as patrols . We have two based in our capital in St. Petersburg, two based in Congress Poland, two based in Crimea and two based in the east in Ufa on the off chance the Yakutians get uppity. The rest of our infantry I have assemble at Moscow so I can divide them up into more formidable units.
While I'm at it I import enough arms and canned food to raise our Mobilization pool. Mobilization is essentially how you can avoid having to pay for having a large army, at the cost of needing a couple of months to mobilize your reserves when you hit the button. The catch is certain policies will limit how large your mobilization pool can be, on top of the fact that its limited by population anyway. Additionally, you can only increase the pool every couple of years, and it requires 40 Small Arms and 40 Canned Food to do so. Canned Food is fairly cheap, but Small Arms are one of the most important resources in the game since you need them to set up military units. Our economy takes a dip long enough for me to get the first increase off.
Belgium comes into existence with its independence guaranteed by like every single European power that borders it. This relationship is why its incredibly hard to retake Belgium as the Netherlands, though its not quite impossible.
France also goes to war with Aldjazair, a tiny Muslim sultanate rulling a portion of Northern Africa. In reality Aldjazair covered more territory, but its empire was weak and kind of liminal in its control so the game represents that by just making them something of a rump state. France almost always annexes this country.
With our strategic situation made clear and my efforts underway to expand the army and stabilize the economy, the time has come for the Council to vote.
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The blue flower means Conservative, the yellow means Liberal, while the blue sword is Reactionary and the yellow sword is Anarcho-Liberal. ALs are more or less old-timey Libertarians, mixed with a bit of proto-Randian Objectivism. If you like having zero control over anything in this fucking game, vote AL every time and watch your country get ripped to shreds. The population will also gain militancy based on how much the ruling party differentiates from their ideology. So Conservatives will be more fine with a Reactionary government than Liberals will, etc.
Political parties are nice and easy this time around. Only four of them currently exist. Economy and Trade are almost interchangable, with the exception that Economy will give bonuses to Capitalists allowing them to build factories easier. Right now, Interventionism, Laissez Faire and Free Trade are of no special benefit to us as the Capitalists are about as broke as the peasants and mostly non-existent as a class. If we vote in a party with any one of those economic poliicies, we will have no control over whether or not we can build factories, and nobody to actually build them. The State Capitalism of the Panslavics is essentially a planned economy, with the difference in this game being that it doesn't penalize Capitalists as strongly as the actual Planned Economy type would. Under State Capitalism, I would have the maximum control over the government's industry.
Religion is basically unimportant. I've put full on Atheist regimes in power over devout Muslim nations before and if the people actually revolt, its usually over literally anything else. Minority is somewhat important in that Full Citizenship allows you to promote peasants of any race or ethnicity to the more educated classes that would allow them to work in your factories (regular dipshit farmers and laborers cannot work in factories). Limited Citizenship allows minority pops to convert to accepted pops easier, while Residence means that the smelly foreigners should be happy we aren't just straight up killing them all. Russia has a very large Russian population, and also various minorities in the country are accepted citizens such as Ukranians, Byleorussians, etc, so we don't have to worry as much about Citizenship right now as we already have a very large labor base.
War Policy determines how much money we can spend on Defence Spending and Military Upkeep. Defence Spending raises your Manpower and Leadership while Military Upkeep determines the maximum size of your Divisions (up to 10,000 troops in each). Basically, if either of these get limited, our neighbors will walk all over us. Pro-Military and Jingoism do not limit our spending, and Jingoism actually makes it cheaper at the cost of damaging our relations with all neighboring countries slowly over time.
Your Options Are:
The Slavophiles (Conservative)
The Westernizers (Liberal)
Panslavic (Reactionary)
Radicals (Anarcho-Liberal)
Remember to vote for us, not for yourself. You may hate Fascism, Monarchy, and/or Communism etc in real life but here they could mean the difference between the life and death of our great nation!
Both the Pan-Slavics and Slavophile parties propose that we invade and dismantle the Ottoman Empire as soon as possible, to free our oppressed Orthodox brethren in the Balkans from Muslim rule. Moldavia, Wallachia and Serbia are Ottoman satellites and the Ottomans will be compelled to defend them if we declare war, so we can sidestep any European alliances the Ottomans might make in the unfolding Second Oriental Crisis.
Council member JongleJingle has proposed a radical plan to reach Africa by crossing the entire Middle East, which would mean taking Iraq/Mesopotamia from the Ottomans instead of the Balkans, leaving our Orthodox brethren in bondage while we race for a piece of the African pie. However, our border with the Ottomans in Caucasus is exstensive, and there is a significant population of Orthodox Armenians still under Ottoman rule that we could free in the process of seizing the Middle East. Persia is also an option for expansion but it will almost immediately bring us into conflict with the British. Taking Egypt will surely bring us into conflict with the British in Africa anyway, so why not take Persia on top of that?
Central Asia is a harsh and savage land, filled with many small petty bickering Khanates. It is the historical route the Russian Empire took colonially, and I would also spend resources colonizing those empty portions in Siberia while I'm at it. This is the safest route and would require almost zero effort from our military to subjugate the Khanates and Afghanistan. However, aside from some opium, the gains would be pitiful.
China is vast but uncivlized. Its armies would be no match for ours. I could quite easily carve off Mongolia and Manchuria in only a single war. This would, however, afford the Ottoman Empire time to win its war with Egypt and grow more powerful. Focusing on China will also make our forces concentrated in the Far East, where they will be quite useless if we are attacked by a European power.
Your Options Are:
The Slavophile Plan (Invade the Ottomans, seize the Balkans)
Polkovnik JongleJingle's Plan (Invade the Ottomans, seize Mesopotamia and Armenia, specify whether or not you want us to go after Persia too)
Subjugate Central Asia (Again specify whether or not you want to include Persia)
Cut China Down to Size (Take Mongolia and Manchuria)
Prussia is smaller and weaker than us right now but that can change fast if they manage the feat of German Unification, which they surely will. Defeating Prussia means we could carve off more chunks of Poland's lucrative industrial territories. Additionally, achieving an overwhelming victory on Prussia and turning them into a Satellite State would end the threat of German Unification once and for all, but it would make acquiring more of Poland essentially impossible.
Austria is large and currently formidable but will weaken as time goes on. Ruthenia-Galicia is rightful Russian land as far as the Pan-Slavics are concerned, while Transylvania will have to be wrested from their grasp if we are to realize an independent Romanian client state. Slovenia and Croatia are Slavic, but are Catholic rather than Orthodox.
If we are going to focus on taking Ottoman territory anyway, perhaps it would be pertinent to destroy as much of their empire as quickly as possible, damn whatever the Germans are up to.
Your Options Are:
Prussia
Austria
Ottoman Delenda Est
Given the way this game goes we will border the UK sooner or later. It may be a good idea to try and buddy up to them right now. The UK AI is programmed to clash with us over Persia howver.
Its possible we could make German Unification work for us and buddy up with Prussia right now. Allying with Austria is a pointless waste of time as they will swiftly be overpowered by Prussia in a few years anyway. Germany would be a very powerful ally indeed, but would we be able to keep them interested?
Or at the end of the day we could save the money we would spend making friends and not bother increasing relations with anyone.
Your Options Are:
The British Empire
Prussia
The Bear Stands Alone
Remember your
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I have a different proposal (to jiggles). We need to break into the Mediterranean.
Step 1. Liberate the balkan states of Bulgaria and the rest of Greece, building a sphere in the Balkans. (1 to get a land route to Constantinople, 2 a staging ground for the seizure of Libya and Tunisia, and 3 to box in the Hapsburgs)
Step 2. Grab up middle north Africa (I am worried about the french influence over Cairo at the start of the game, so these will have to do)
Step 3. I believe that seizing Persia and Mesopotamia will further our Oil monopoly in the old world, (taking Perisa can be accomplished during steps 1 or 2 tbh)
Step 4. Crush the turks and take Anitolia (and Egypt if they manage to hold it that long).
I am of the opinion that Russia needs a strong warm water Navy, and holding the eastern med will make taking (or making) the Suez a possibility. Causing trouble in India through Iran will be worth it if only to making the Anglo raw material mountain smaller and a lower pop. I have no clue what to do about the Germans though, my guess is break Austria and have Hungry and the liberated Balkans as puppet states to get the AI to spit or divert their army.
Step 1. Liberate the balkan states of Bulgaria and the rest of Greece, building a sphere in the Balkans. (1 to get a land route to Constantinople, 2 a staging ground for the seizure of Libya and Tunisia, and 3 to box in the Hapsburgs)
Step 2. Grab up middle north Africa (I am worried about the french influence over Cairo at the start of the game, so these will have to do)
Step 3. I believe that seizing Persia and Mesopotamia will further our Oil monopoly in the old world, (taking Perisa can be accomplished during steps 1 or 2 tbh)
Step 4. Crush the turks and take Anitolia (and Egypt if they manage to hold it that long).
I am of the opinion that Russia needs a strong warm water Navy, and holding the eastern med will make taking (or making) the Suez a possibility. Causing trouble in India through Iran will be worth it if only to making the Anglo raw material mountain smaller and a lower pop. I have no clue what to do about the Germans though, my guess is break Austria and have Hungry and the liberated Balkans as puppet states to get the AI to spit or divert their army.
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