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Dumb Bitch Smoothie

All I Want for Christmas is the GFM
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Man they're overcomplicating shit and it isn't gonna go over well. Kids who are too young to understand sexuality (anything before puberty) really can't wrap their head around LGBT issues no matter how much these people want to push it.

No, drag queen story time isn't going to be some life changing experience for a kid because all they're gonna take away from that is "funny dude in a dress."

So what if little Jenny has two moms? It's not a big deal. It's no different from a kid having one parent, a kid being raised by another family member, a kid in foster care, whatever. Pushing too much in at a young age gets complicated fast because kids are still in the process of understanding the world around them. Adding LGBT and social issues isn't the way to teach kids to be tolerant.

The easiest and most effective way to teach kids to be tolerant is to answer a question or present a fact as simply as possible. And when it comes to trans people specifically, it is better to let the child ask the questions because understanding how that child perceives the situation is key to understanding what sort of answers they would like.

If a kid trips and falls and bleeds and everyone freaks out, the kid freaks out because everyone is freaking out.
But if you teach the kid to pick himself back up and move on they'll move past it quicker without it causing a problem in front of their peers.

The same goes for educating children about things that you want them to learn but not complicate. You give them an answer that is simple and satisfactory and you move past it and they'll retain that information but it won't cause a dilemma.

The only time dilemmas happen is when an outside source injects a new opinion into the kid, and oversaturation of social issues causes that. Look at the way young teens and pre-teens are now behaving towards politics when previously they were indifferent. Because politics have now become a constant swarm of opinion, children are forming their own conclusions quicker because they are heavily exposed to the political opinions of just about everyone.

So, this is a lot of rambling but in short the ideas of the people trying to do this tell me that they have absolutely zero idea of how to work with children and the fact that they want to make these decisions and somebody might just let them disturbs me.
 

Trig.Point

I wouldn't start from here.
True & Honest Fan
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Back when this first hit the news, I called it for the trannies.

They don't think Muslims really believe in Islam, because they don't think anyone really believes in religion at all. They assume Islam will as malleable as Christianity, in the face of the decadent technical wonders of Western modernity.

All signs point to them being right. https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/us/pew-muslim-american-survey/index.html
This is the problem with fanatics, they assume that everyone that might oppose them is either an idiot or evil.

Islam particularly in the UK is playing the long game, they're only kicking off when LGBT activists try to move into Muslim dominated schools.

Sargon idiot that he is, has been the only figure on the right that I've seen that's reached out to Islamic activists. There's never going to be any coalition between Islam and the right. In the end this will end in however many years time, with the LGBT community trying to talk to an Islamic community that aren't interested in talking.
 

Positron

No more Jingle Bells, hon!
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gay and transgender issues in classes such as Maths and Design
The creation of stink ditches is a good introduction to Topology, and is an object lesson in design failures.

"Hey Billy, you'll get the answer to that question in a moment after you tell me the importance of the 1969 Stonewall Riots."
"How do you prove, without explicit factorization, that the number 1969 is divisible by 11?"
You don't! When you see the number 1969 you'll weep and scream uncontrollably and cannot do any logical reasoning.
 

Pokemonquistador2

Electric Boogaloo
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Back when this first hit the news, I called it for the trannies.

They don't think Muslims really believe in Islam, because they don't think anyone really believes in religion at all. They assume Islam will as malleable as Christianity, in the face of the decadent technical wonders of Western modernity.

All signs point to them being right. https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/us/pew-muslim-american-survey/index.html
All civilizations are prone to irreligiousity and liberalism during times of prosperity. Even in the past, Islam has had periods of progressivism:

"The works of the contemporary historians of Baghdad in the early tenth century are still available. They deeply deplored the degeneracy of the times in which they lived, emphasising particularly the indifference to religion, the increasing materialism and the laxity of sexual morals. They lamented also the corruption of the officials of the government and the fact that politicians always seemed to amass large fortunes while they were in office. The historians commented bitterly on the extraordinary influence acquired by popular singers over young people, resulting in a decline in sexual morality. The ‘pop’ singers of Baghdad accompanied their erotic songs on the lute, an instrument resembling the modern guitar. In the second half of the tenth century, as a result, much obscene sexual language came increasingly into use, such as would not have been tolerated in an earlier age. Several khalifs issued orders banning ‘pop’ singers from the capital, but within a few years they always returned. An increase in the influence of women in public life has often been associated with national decline.

The later Romans complained that, although Rome ruled the world, women ruled Rome. In the tenth century, a similar tendency was observable in the Arab Empire, the women demanding admission to the professions hitherto monopolised by men. ‘What,’ wrote the contemporary historian, Ibn Bessam, ‘have the professions of clerk, tax-collector or preacher to do with women? These occupations have always been limited to men alone.’ Many women practised law, while others obtained posts as university professors. There was an agitation for the appointment of female judges, which, however, does not appear to have succeeded."

It's the next paragraph in "The Fate of Empires" that the modern day Britons might want to pay close attention to....

" Soon after this period, government and public order collapsed, and foreign invaders overran the country. The resulting increase in confusion and violence made it unsafe for women to move unescorted in the streets, with the result that this feminist movement collapsed. The disorders following the military takeover in 861, and the loss of the empire, had played havoc with the economy. At such a moment, it might have been expected that everyone would redouble their efforts to save the country from bankruptcy, but nothing of the kind occurred. Instead, at this moment of declining trade and financial stringency, the people of Baghdad introduced a five-day week. "

The UK can't say that no one warned them...
 

Otterly

Primark Primarch
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So what if little Jenny has two moms? It's not a big deal. It's no different from a kid having one parent, a kid being raised by another family member, a kid in foster care,
yeah this is the level you work at for little ones. Families can be different (adopted, widowed, grandparents etc) what matters is blahblah...

and that was what the focus used to be on, just making being gay a regular and unremarkable thing. So if the headmaster has a husband that’s just as dull as him having a wife. That’s what decades of campaigning sought to do. And it succeeded.

now it’s degenerates all the way down. Same as ‘why don’t we let boys play with dolls without mocking them’ has turned into your are actually a girl!’ It’s like any sensible movement gets twisted and then exaggerated into something nightmarish.
No one wants section28 back. But kids being exposed to sexual stuff too young (straight or gay) is grooming and abuse.
 

Pitere pit

Do you like my car?
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LGBT issues in every subject is a very bad idea, this reminds me of how my parents were taught in school when they were kiddies during the dictatorship's years. Every time they were reminded about how Jesus died for our sins, even on math . At the end they made them agnostics, ma and pa were saturated about God that every time something goes wrong they scream at the sky and say Fuck You God.
The point is, no matter how much can you try to indoctrinate kiddies about something, whether God or LGBTWBBBP rights, they will rebel at these.
Most LGBT people just want to live their lives, working the same jobs, pay the bills, drinking and smoking to forget their problems like anyone else. Sure there are degenerates fucks, but the normal ones aren't screeching about teaching kiddies of how many genders are there on Math or where did Stonewall happen on Geography. These faggots activists don't have jobs, they don't contribute to society and they only survive because people are too stupid to realize that they are the priests of the modern world. Like religion, LGBT issues must be taught because you want to, not by force. And as someone said, the dumb kid of yore got to be a priest, nun or whatever, now, they are activists.
Make School Boring Again. Children only need to know Math, History, Language, Science, some PE, Biology, Physics and that's it. As I say about religion classes, LGBT ones must only be taught to those who want it, make them extra-curricular not obligatory.
 

Amber the Hedgehog

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I don’t think homosexuality needs to be covered in school at all until teenage sex education even there just how to keep safe while doing anal, oral and/or hand stuff. Maybe acknowledging that it might take time to figure out what sexuality you have as hormonal, social and other pressures can be confusing. But that’s kinda it. There is nothing else kids need to know. I don’t mind if homosexuality gets mentioned in other situations like history of civil rights or talking about current events but there absolutely no reason purposefully bring it up outside of sex ed. Trans stuff doesn’t need be covered at all. Teachers aren’t medical professionals and so shouldn’t be covering anything medical beyond basic biology, history, safety and first aid.
 
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