TGWTG Linkara / Lewis Lovhaug - HMMMMMMM? (Dead Gay Muppet Gangbang)

[PeriodicTrouble]

Think so

It makes me wonder how much he's making? He does have more revenue streams now, with his merchandise, patreon, and his livestream superchats. So it's possible that he could be doing better than his days on Blip, but probably not with the whole having to get his teeth pulled one at a time at a dental school.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Lewis was a terrible influence. I looked up how to self publish because of him but self published indy comics have more pote tial than self published novels if you're good enough.

Also there's more opportunity to sell. If you have a comic book, you can get a table at a con and sell it there. Also, if you manage to get into Diamond, you just have to convince your nearby comic stores to pick it up until you sell enough copies to meet their $2500 minimum to stay in (That was the minimum when I was looking into making comics). You probably won't sell enough to get rich but you can establish enough of an audience to keep you going for a while, which will hopefully grow if you can keep on schedule.

With a novel, you don't really have as many options. You have Amazon, but that's a pretty crowded market.

 

[MisterBee]

It makes me wonder how much he's making? He does have more revenue streams now, with his merchandise, patreon, and his livestream superchats. So it's possible that he could be doing better than his days on Blip, but probably not with the whole having to get his teeth pulled one at a time at a dental school.

IF he really did owe $7k in taxes 2 years ago, he's making around $38k yearly. His patreon numbers are around $2.6k monthly, and if you include any cash he gets from youtube revenue, that gets close to under $40k.

 

[skykiii]

90% of anything is shit, but superheroes pervail in media because they strike a cord with people, and you can still tell great stories with them.

But given it never really changes and is just years and years of the same old same old with occasional shake up events, like turning dick grayson into "rik" because the writer has issues with penis envy...

Anyway great power comes with great responsibility and the writers have lots of power but no responsibility to tell good stories.

So, they put the shit in capeshit.

Yeah, most of my problem is that even the supposedly "good" superhero comics like Watchmen or What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way? are kinda shitty.

Granted the problem is partly my expectations being too high. That latter is supposed to be a serious evaluation of classic morality and how it still works in a modern world, but in practice it first gives the Elite a geniune point that Superman never actually solves problems, just delays them (and tries to make this some sort of winning statement), so the only way to make the Elite look worse is by upping their evil 1000%. Anyone over the (mental) age of fifteen knows that morality is not this binary. Even past that though, the comic's message basically comes down to "yeah, both options suck, but at least Superman won't dump acid on you just for fun, so he's better by default."

But when I think about it, these are still stories for (man)children, so this is probably the exact amount of "discussion" they're capable of handling without their heads exploding.

At the risk of sounding like a weeb, superheroes really need their own version of people like Hideaki Anno or Hideo Kojima, to go completely crazy on the medium and jack shit up.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

Yeah, most of my problem is that even the supposedly "good" superhero comics like Watchmen or What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way? are kinda shitty.

Granted the problem is partly my expectations being too high. That latter is supposed to be a serious evaluation of classic morality and how it still works in a modern world, but in practice it first gives the Elite a geniune point that Superman never actually solves problems, just delays them (and tries to make this some sort of winning statement), so the only way to make the Elite look worse is by upping their evil 1000%. Anyone over the (mental) age of fifteen knows that morality is not this binary. Even past that though, the comic's message basically comes down to "yeah, both options suck, but at least Superman won't dump acid on you just for fun, so he's better by default."

But when I think about it, these are still stories for (man)children, so this is probably the exact amount of "discussion" they're capable of handling without their heads exploding.

At the risk of sounding like a weeb, superheroes really need their own version of people like Hideaki Anno or Hideo Kojima, to go completely crazy on the medium and jack shit up.

Yeah those people were Warren Ellis and Garth Ennis.

 

[Thundershlock]

Yeah, most of my problem is that even the supposedly "good" superhero comics like Watchmen or What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way? are kinda shitty.

Granted the problem is partly my expectations being too high. That latter is supposed to be a serious evaluation of classic morality and how it still works in a modern world, but in practice it first gives the Elite a geniune point that Superman never actually solves problems, just delays them (and tries to make this some sort of winning statement), so the only way to make the Elite look worse is by upping their evil 1000%. Anyone over the (mental) age of fifteen knows that morality is not this binary. Even past that though, the comic's message basically comes down to "yeah, both options suck, but at least Superman won't dump acid on you just for fun, so he's better by default."

But when I think about it, these are still stories for (man)children, so this is probably the exact amount of "discussion" they're capable of handling without their heads exploding.

At the risk of sounding like a weeb, superheroes really need their own version of people like Hideaki Anno or Hideo Kojima, to go completely crazy on the medium and jack shit up.

I'm not inclined to agree that comics are actually only intended for children. Now, they're not intended for anyone but librarians. Anyway I think I really do want to shake things up with my work, just I have plans for the status quo.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

I'm not inclined to agree that comics are actually only intended for children. Now, they're not intended for anyone but librarians. Anyway I think I really do want to shake things up with my work, just I have plans for the status quo.

I think he only meant American Comics because I sure as hell wouldn't call Mobius' works, Loan Sloane, or any decent 2000AD adventure 'Manchildish' in general.

 

[Thundershlock]

I think he only meant American Comics because I sure as hell wouldn't call Mobiu's works, Loan Sloane, or any decent 2000AD adventure 'Manchildish' in general.

American comics don't have to be bad, but in the main stream? Yeah, mostly.

I used to enjoy a few select titles from DC, used to read ultimate spiderman, but I quit in the 2000s when they decided to kill all my characters and write ridiculous sex scenes in the comics. Like, do I really wanna know who thor is banging? Or see him naked? Its like they're trying to copy prime time TV and doing really poorly at it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The problem comics have is that they haven’t managed to turn the boom of the Dark Knight Trilogy, MCU, DCEU, and Arrowvwrse into higher comic book sales. And then there’s the “woke” aspect driving customers away but that’s another conversation

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

The problem comics have is that they haven’t managed to turn the boom of the Dark Knight Trilogy, MCU, DCEU, and Arrowvwrse into higher comic book sales. And then there’s the “woke” aspect driving customers away but that’s another conversation

I think the main problem is that comics are kinda incestous, not in terms of creators this time.

How many times have they been rebooted and stopped and have lore stretching back decades that you need to know whose who in this place?

I can binge those shows in a week.

American comics don't have to be bad, but in the main stream? Yeah, mostly.

I used to enjoy a few select titles from DC, used to read ultimate spiderman, but I quit in the 2000s when they decided to kill all my characters and write ridiculous sex scenes in the comics. Like, do I really wanna know who thor is banging? Or see him naked? Its like they're trying to copy prime time TV and doing really poorly at it.

Only time I agree with Linkara, I'm no prune, but I remeber why I didn't buy American Comics out in the open anymore that doesn't cover a lot of skin.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I think the main problem is that comics are kinda incestous, not in terms of creators this time.

How many times have they been rebooted and stopped and have lore stretching back decades that you need to know whose who in this place?

I can binge those shows in a week.

Yeah, that’s another issue. And it could also explain why comics are having their asses kicked by manga.

 

[Thundershlock]

I think the main problem is that comics are kinda incestous, not in terms of creators this time.

How many times have they been rebooted and stopped and have lore stretching back decades that you need to know whose who in this place?

I can binge those shows in a week.

Only time I agree with Linkara, I'm no prune, but I remeber why I didn't buy American Comics out in the open anymore that doesn't cover a lot of skin.

They dont leave anything to the imagination. I'm not prudish enough to get on Starfire or Black CAnary, I like their designs.

But sometimes it's pretty stupid.

Cosmic boy had a very... uh... homoerotic skin showing costume in the 80s. Its from Legion of Superheroes. Apparently the costume pushed him into insanity considering how he ultimately turned into the time trapper.

But All the crappy storytelling side, the characters are generally what I'm following. When the characters are ultimately destroyed by bad writing, that's when I tap out. I tapped out of main stream comics when they killed my character, Bart Allen. And bringing him back didn't help. They're basically fucking with Tim DRake which one of my other characters and it's like, what reason do I have to go back? Nothing matters, nothing makes sense, and any continuity I was following was over a decade ago.

I don't know how to solve the problem of long continuity. Seems like the same problem a lot of Shounen anime like Case Closed and One piece has.

How long do you expect me to follow this shit, exactly? Of course I never really followed One Piece or Case closed but the anime has over 1000 episodes a piece. It's absurd.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

They dont leave anything to the imagination. I'm not prudish enough to get on Starfire or Black CAnary, I like their designs.

But sometimes it's pretty stupid.

Cosmic boy had a very... uh... homoerotic skin showing costume in the 80s. Its from Legion of Superheroes. Apparently the costume pushed him into insanity considering how he ultimately turned into the time trapper.

That's what I mean. I felt like I was buying a swimsuit issue more than a comic.

I don't know how to solve the problem of long continuity. Seems like the same problem a lot of Shounen anime like Case Closed and One piece has.

How long do you expect me to follow this shit, exactly? Of course I never really followed One Piece or Case closed but the anime has over 1000 episodes a piece. It's absurd.

Long continuity is not that much of a problem, Oda is still on One Piece and Aoyama still, I believe, controls Case Closed. They're long, true, but they're consistent with their works.

Sometimes comic runs end with a different set of writers than the beginning. I like to say the difference between comic versus manga is that one is a straight line while the other is a branch.

One's long and but easy to follow, while the other is reaching everywhere. You can end up with many different tones and 'voices' for characters that it gets really absurd.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

The problem comics have is that they haven’t managed to turn the boom of the Dark Knight Trilogy, MCU, DCEU, and Arrowvwrse into higher comic book sales. And then there’s the “woke” aspect driving customers away but that’s another conversation

The funny thing is you can translate that into comic sales, as Walking Dead proved. Its sales jumped up after the show started and it became one of the highest selling books every month. But in that case, I think it was because it was one series with one writer and one artist after the first 6 issues.

 

[Mnutu]

To hit the nail on the head that’s been hammered before; what makes manga work where comics fail is the consistency of the story. Manga banks more on the author, while comics banks more on the IP. Clearly, the former was a wider decision. Go back 10 years, then 20 years, and compare what the big two were doing compared to Jump. It’s the same shit against a mostly rotating stable of stories with a few big mainstays sprinkled through it.