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Best "Living Dead" Movie?

  • Diary of the Dead (2008)

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  • Survival of the Dead (2010)

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  • Return of the Living Dead: Necropolis (2005)

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BrunoMattei

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Does Argento's cut eliminate the helicopter head chopping when they land to refuel? That sticks out to me, but it's been years since I saw that version.
I believe it did and also the pie fight scene. Little bits of character building are cut out too that hurt the film despite the Goblin music being amazing.
 
It's just missing some elements (that I can't really name, it's kinda one of those things that you have to see in action to say "THAT'S THE STUFF!") that put the oomph on all the things it does right. It's got all the things there that are really good...but they kinda fall JUST a little short when looking at the flick as a whole. It doesn't take away from how good it is, but it could be that much better if there was something else there. It's like making stew and there's just some spice that would make it all taste amazing but it's still great as is.

Dawn is a killer watch. But I'd also agree it's just a tad overrated.


I love Dawn, but can see why some people don't like it, or would find it hard to get into today. I don't think anyone would never claim Romero's main skill was getting good performances from his actors, but I can see how that would be an annoyance to some. The zombies don't look as creepy as Night or as realistic as Day, with the ketchup blood and that whilst there are notable exceptions, many just have some blue facepaint and you can see in several scenes they didn't paint their palms.
 

Schmeckel

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The zombies don't look as creepy as Night or as realistic as Day, with the ketchup blood and that whilst there are notable exceptions, many just have some blue facepaint and you can see in several scenes they didn't paint their palms.
Yeah, but some of that is largely due to limitations of the time, like how the grey makeup looked blue during filming. And, I guess Romero liked the blood because of the sort of "comic book" style he was going for. Some of the stuff (dated effects and the like) can be easily forgiven. I agree with @BrunoMattei in his post with regards to being able to nitpick things, and I'll even admit to having never really thought about the initial raid and what their reason is for being there. Not saying that it has to be spelled out, but even a line like "These folks refuse to evacuate! We gotta go in there!" or something can clear that up since the world is apparently falling apart, so a police raid seems...out of place.
 

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Some of the stuff (dated effects and the like) can be easily forgiven.
I generally agree on this. One of my favorite movies (and somewhat zombie-related) is the original Evil Dead, which unlike the subsequent movies, is unrelentingly dark. The special effects are often laughable, but somehow the movie itself manages to be terrifying. It's amazing how much Sam Raimi did with so little.

I also can't really blame Dawn for the flaws in the opening, at least not much. It's easy to look at it after over 40 years of subsequent zombie movies, where they've nearly perfected the art of the opening montage of society collapsing, and see they've done the general concept better, but Dawn was the originator. There are clunky bits.

My actual favorite opening montage is the one in the Zach Snyder remake. Absolute perfection. If the rest of the movie had been up to the same level, it would rival the original. Its main flaws were things like shooting scenes like they were a music video. Just shaking the camera doesn't make it scarier. Overly busy scenes where too much is happening don't either, they just make it incoherent, like the third Matrix movie. That said, I generally like that film.
I don't think anyone would never claim Romero's main skill was getting good performances from his actors, but I can see how that would be an annoyance to some.
That batch of negatives is somewhat confusing, but I think you're saying Romero was not a director who necessarily brought out the best in actors. I'd generally agree with that, but some performances were actually really good. I'd specifically note Terry Alexander in Day (particularly the 14 mile tombstone speech) and John Leguizamo in Land.
 

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My actual favorite opening montage is the one in the Zach Snyder remake. Absolute perfection.
That was probably the best thing Snyder has done in any of his movies. While there is no shortage of dumb shit in the remake, it IS one of my favorites, especially among just a movie I can put on any time and still be entertained. While I know that the bit where CJ tosses a propane bomb out the top of the bus was just a huge dose of CGI, I very much like seeing the wave of zeds just toppling over from the blast.
 

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I'd generally agree with that, but some performances were actually really good. I'd specifically note Terry Alexander in Day (particularly the 14 mile tombstone speech) and John Leguizamo in Land.
Are you seriously overlooking Joe Pilato going full ham like its bad? Bruh.

Nobody in GRs films were good but i'd argue Joe and Terry deserved more work, they did the best with their lines.
 

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Ken Foree is great and he's had a fairly successful career.
he's cool, but he's got kind of a weird skull for a leading guy
I love Dawn, but can see why some people don't like it, or would find it hard to get into today. I don't think anyone would never claim Romero's main skill was getting good performances from his actors, but I can see how that would be an annoyance to some. The zombies don't look as creepy as Night or as realistic as Day, with the ketchup blood and that whilst there are notable exceptions, many just have some blue facepaint and you can see in several scenes they didn't paint their palms.
yeah Dawn is one of the worse offenders for "Front Row Zombie" compared to the ones in the back, and then some of the ones in the back end up in front
 

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he's cool, but he's got kind of a weird skull for a leading guy

yeah Dawn is one of the worse offenders for "Front Row Zombie" compared to the ones in the back, and then some of the ones in the back end up in front

True, although honestly a lot of that has to do with the fact Dawn was made on a low budget.

Day of the Dead was the only one of the original Romero flicks that had anything resembling a budget. Night and Dawn were both made for less than a million dollars.

Night of the Living Dead was able to get away with it because it was in black and white and that helped sell the creepy factor with less overall effects.
 

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