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Culture 'Long Time, No See' Is Racist Against Asians, Colorado State Warns Students"How, White Man" is still acceptable

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  1. https://www.pluralist.com/posts/208...-against-asians-colorado-state-warns-students

    'Long Time, No See' Is Racist Against Asians, Colorado State Warns Students

    "It has gotten to the point where students should carry around a dictionary of words they cannot say."

    Administrators at Colorado State University have apparently deemed the saying "Long time, no see" to be non-inclusive language.

    Student Katrina Leibee reported in an op-ed for the campus newspaper that the common greeting appeared on a list of taboo phrases that she was shown by the student association's director of diversity and inclusion, Zahra Al-Saloom.

    According to Leibee, the phrase was included on the list because it was seen as "derogatory toward those of Asian descent" and thus contrary to the university's commitment to fostering inclusion.

    Leibee said that the university also instructs students to avoid gendering each other by using traditional pronouns, the word "freshman," or the phrase "you guys." "First year" and "y'all" are the preferred nomenclature, she explained.

    While Leibee averred that she and most of her classmates "actively respect people’s gender pronouns," she complained that the university was getting carried away.

    "A countless amount of words and phrases have been marked with a big, red X and defined as non-inclusive," she said. "It has gotten to the point where students should carry around a dictionary of words they cannot say."

    Al-Saloom did not respond to a request for a comment.

    The actual etymology of "Long time, no see" is unclear. But there are two leading theories.

    One is that the phrase came from the broken English of Chinese or Native American speakers. However, the earliest usages are by American writers describing the supposed speech of foreigners, and those descriptions could be inaccurate.

    The other main theory is that "Long time, no see," is a literal translation of a Mandarin phrase.

    In a 2012 investigation of the phrase, the Applied Applied Linguistics blog concluded that it was probably originally "a way to mock people for not speaking standard American English." However, the blog suggested, the phrase likely has real Chinese roots of some kind, which would explain why it seems to have been embraced by Chinese learners of English "as a kind of symbolic victory for Chinglish."

    In other words, Chinese English speakers may have been proud that "Long time, no see" was adopted into common usage.

    Is it really a good idea, then, to make what is now a characteristically American phrase racist again?

    Some would no doubt argue that "Long time, no see" is essentially a lesser version of blackface, an artifact of America's racist past that is best discarded along with its oppressive baggage.

    But for others, it is the policing of language that is the problem. They could point to Jordan Peterson's concerns about free speech, Jonathan Haidt's warnings about the coddling of American youth, and Francis Fukuyama's manifesto against identity politics.

    As Leibee put it in her op-ed: "We should all consider the possibility that these words were not a problem until we made them a problem. These phrases were not exclusive until we decided they were."
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  2. Yeah there are real problems we could be solving in the world but we better double pad the hallway so no "adults" get their feelings hurt. Don't think bad thoughts, that's punishable by a rat mask. Are they gonna outlaw the phrase "chink in the armor" too?

    I'd guess this is one of those "colleges" that is only one in name, basically one of those coddling diploma-mills?
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  3. We can't just take words from years ago that may of have an iffy past and then change them just because of a vague context. Many terms we use today come from things that weren't good to use as phrases in the past. But words can evolve with time. If you go into history to cleanse every single vaguely offensive phrase because you find some iffy context, you have too much time on your hands and need help.
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  4. Zahra Al-Saloom has already locked down her twitter. Screenshot_2018-11-08 زهرة ( AdrenalineGuts) Twitter.png
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  5. Me Chinese, me not woke
    Me write pidgin as a joke
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  6. Did they actually ask any Chinese students if the phrase offended them?

    No wait. Why am I asking? Of course they didn't.
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  8. Literally, what?

    Besides, Fukuyama's piece wasn't a manifesto, you stupid sandnigger. It was a bland commentary on IDpol from both sides. It wasn't anything like a manifesto.
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  9. Do whatever you want suckers. I'll (hopefully) be long dead by the time this generation's all coked up on soy, warm feelings and a firm asylum seeking fist up the behind.
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  10. You know what else is racist?

    Human existence.
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  11. i thought "long time no see" was the title of a movie or play or something
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  12. Hypersensitivity at its finest.
    I literally just said that phrase today too.
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  13. Stop culturally appropriating rural southern people. You're not a cowboy.
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  14. Fucking why. Why have this position. Eliminate it and 99.99% of these problems go away. It only exists to create and inflame tensions by "finding" problems and manufacturing controversy which they then use to get all their asshole buddies hired on who then "find" more issues. It's a scam. Stahhhhhp.
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  15. I use that phrase all the time. I had no idea it was racist. Honest Injun.
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    #15 J A N D E K, Nov 8, 2018
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  16. Always sounded like laid-back surfer or hippie talk to me. These people really stretch for this stuff.

    This is like when they were calling the doge meme racist because they insisted it was mocking Asians with its broken English and saying it was meant to be read in a pidgin accent.

    I'm pretty sure that if you see a Shiba dog saying wow and the first thing that pops in your head is "Asian dog, ching chang chong!" You're probably the racist.

    I didn't think anything would top that, but here we are...
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  17. Guarantee you that fucking nobody knew anywhere near enough about the history of this phrase to even begin to consider that it might be racist until somebody hit the books
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  18. It's a calque of Chinese 好久不见。
    Stop fucking getting triggered at languages. They spread shit all over all the time. At this rate they'll make everyone learn fucking Lojban because English is the bastard child of French deep-throating German.
    Oh wait, Lojban used statistical practices that only included the top most spoken languages in the world? That's racist.
    Guess everyone is going to have to learn how to speak Nǁŋǃke now to communicate. Oh, no its from Africa nevermind thats verbal blackface.
    Well we're stuck with communicating nonverbally now. Oops thats offensive to monkeys, check your evolutionary privelege shitlord.

    God, where does this end. Humanity was a mistake.
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  19. Rong time no see.
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  20. "It's a beautiful thing, the Destruction of words. Of course the great wastage is in the verbs and adjectives, but there are hundreds of nouns that can be got rid of as well. It isn't only the synonyms; there are also the antonyms. After all, what justification is there for a word, which is simply the opposite of some other word? A word contains its opposite in itself. Take ‘good,’ for instance. If you have a word like ‘good,’ what need is there for a word like ‘bad’? ‘Ungood’ will do just as well – better, because it's an exact opposite, which the other is not. Or again, if you want a stronger version of ‘good,’ what sense is there in having a whole string of vague useless words like ‘excellent’ and ‘splendid’ and all the rest of them? ‘Plusgood’ covers the meaning or ‘doubleplusgood’ if you want something stronger still. Of course we use those forms already, but in the final version of Newspeak there'll be nothing else. In the end the whole notion of goodness and badness will be covered by only six words – in reality, only one word. Don't you see the beauty of that, Winston? It was B.B.'s idea originally, of course," he added as an afterthought.

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