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How many people in your life have you seen troon out?(not including cows)


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NerdShamer

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Thought I was enby for a bit, turned out I was just an autistic woman. My best friend is also autistic and has started to talk about being non-binary but she is still attending the women's circle I run so it can't be that triggering for her....hopefully it is just a phase. She's very socially progressive, mostly out of a genuine desire for people to be happy. Not in her nature to be a very angry person.

She knows I am happy about the UK banning kids from transitioning, while she calls the UK terf island--but she didn't slap me in the face and scream that I was a TERF when I let the cat out of the bag about that one. I just asked if we could not talk about it and she said sure, that was okay, hopefully I would change my mind through exposure to it as we conversed over time.

Not great as it's still a conversion speech, but far from the worst thing ever.

I'm still trying to figure out how to talk to her about this shit in more detail, or if I even should. I'm so scared. I love her to bits, I can't stand the thought of her drinking this kool aid any longer.

I've made up my mind while writing this, if she tries to hold a mini intervention for me to try and change my mind, that's when I'll have a list of links ready to go, and I'll tell her if she reads mine, I'll read hers.

And then I'll link her to Kevin Gibes' thread. It's all I've got.

Didn't realise how emotional I'd get writing this. I just want her to be happy and safe from this cult mindset, I love and care about her so so much, and I don't even care how faggy it is to say that, cause I do.
Kinda a late, but you should also use Yaniv's thread. He's been having fun with the firefighters, earlier this year.
 

Aaa0aaa0

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Well, if we are on less sad things, good news : my mum won't drink the Trans soda yet :optimistic: No lesbian step-father for me!
(To sum up for those who weren't there: she was the target of a pretty aggressive FTM lesbian)
She had an argument with her over motherhood and now she told me FTM are just bitches who are too cowardly to be real women she's so angry lol. Seems I worried too much.

More seriously, I have the impression that the gap between internet hug box and reality is widening and now people in general are starting to see how more lunatic this movement is than anything else. The fad won't stop quickly but still, I have hope.
:woo:

Bless your mom. She can think for herself and stands by her principles, what a woman. At least the two of you can now bitch together.


And I do too. The more I talk to people offline, the more I get the distinct impression that there are more "TERFs" than trans people ever realized. A woman who is fine with men who had bottom surgery entering the woman's restroom is going to draw her limit at men who haven't. There was a UK poll that showed that thought for men and women and in spite of how many other things they were ok with (trans people arent evil etc), the troon community went REEEEEEEEEEE WE ARE TERF ISLAND!!! TRAs online tend to be all or nothing. Normal people are not that stupid. We will have a troon war and it will not end well for the troons.
 

Legoshi

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My former best friend of like eight years at that point trooned out and it's hard for me to put this shit into words because of how mad it makes me to think about it still.

I met the guy when I was 12 and he was 14. He was a typical spoiled fucking brat, like his parents bought him and his brother anything they asked for, but he still insisted his parents were just the absolute worst. I always ignored him when he'd complain about them being sooooo unfair because of some bullshit he made up. When he wasn't doing dumb shit like that him and I played vidya together, talked about books, talked about the animes we watched, or just watched dumb shit together to laugh at.

When he turned 16 he came out to me as bisexual and I accepted him for who he was because of me being bi too. He'd talk to me about guys and girls he found attractive and I'd joke around with him and call him a faggot while he called me a dyke. He never came out to his parents, though, because he kept saying they'd never accept him because they hated gay people de to being Christian. That was bullshit because they knew about me being bi and were totally okay with it.

Around the time he turned 18 is when he came out to me again and insisted that he was actually gay. Once again I accepted him because it would have been hypocritical of me not to. It was around then that I saw the starts of him being a bit... Odd. He wanted to be called the Ultra Pope and said he was really from outer space. I thought it was some kind of joke and ribbed him for it but he was being deadly serious. He was also going off to college so we saw less and less of each other. When we did get the chances to hang out he'd go on about his Ultra Pope shit and I'd just tune it out. When he finally left for college we'd keep in contact with each other through the phone and by messaging each other online. He'd told me that he joined the LGBT club at his college and I was pretty happy for him because he'd found some nice, like minded individuals to be friends with. Boy was I fucking wrong.

His second year of college he told me he wanted to be called by a womans name (I don't want to say what it is because I'm scared he'll find this post somehow since it's a not very common name). I thought it was weird but I adapted to it like I did with the Ultra Pope bullshit. He didn't drop that dumb shit either, he still insisted he was a pope from outer space on top of wanting to be called by the lady name. He'd told me he became friends with a group of dykes from his LGBT club and he'd always let them in on our calls so they could talk to me too. The problem is that these dykes were actually men LARPing as women and they made me real fucking uncomfortable. He started mimicking their speech and calling me problematic for any little thing which grated on my nerves. I ended up cutting contact with him because I was sick of being called problematic and homophobic for dumb little things.

We ended did eventually start talking to each other again but he was still the fucking same as the last time I talked to him. Always with the fucking shit of calling things I did or said problematic and wanting to be called by a womans name. Not long after we started talking again is when he came out to me as trans. I accepted it because at the time I was okay with troons. If anything I looked at them with pity because I thought it sucked for them to be born in the wrong body. My opinion on those fucks has long changed of course. He always felt the need to detail his sex life to me like typical troons do. Always fucking telling me about his disgusting fetishes despite me telling him not to talk about that shit to me. When I'd get on his case for the oversharing he'd call me transphobic or fucking racial slurs and tell me because I was non-white is why I'm so transphobic. That was the straw that broke the camels back for me again, honestly. I couldn't deal with having racist shit hurled at me constantly so I broke off our friendship there again.

There are times where I miss the old him before the tranny bullshit. Times where I wish I could bring him back from that fucking cult that he's in. I know I can't though. I know he's too far gone already. The last I checked on him he was on HRT and planned on getting the chop at some point which is fucking hysterical since the guy is a 6'2" bald ogre that could never pass as a woman.
That's so shit. You'd think that for all the discrimination they cry about, they wouldn't do it to another person. I'm really sorry that he was so rude to you.

Lmao, at my university, some of the members of the LGBTQ+ society are the biggest snowflakes I've seen. They have no tolerance for differing views, and they threatened to kick anybody out if they didn't 100% agree with BLM and LGBTBBQWTF+ ideology. I nearly got excommunicated from there for triggering them with Kim Jong Un memes on the general chat and nearly none of them speak to me anymore. I told my Mum about it and she said to leave the group.


This guy was an ex-friend who I no longer speak to after realising how much of an awful person he truly was after hearing multiple stories and his behaviour in general. Let's call him John (not his real name). John was described as an "incel", a crusty misogynist who has said "fuck wimmen, u cant trust dem :mad:" and basically went on a full rant about how bad they were multiple times. John had an entire "fetish" for transgender/transsexuals (actually full blown autogynephilia) pornography and stated it proudly on a video chat. He also got scammed money by a oversexualized camgirl and had his nudes leaked everywhere too. People eventually got sick of his bullshit and John cut all contact with almost everybody I knew from my university groups and got kicked out of his old flat for leaving his room in an entire mess and living like an absolute slob. Fast forward a few months later, he troons out and gets lavishing and worship from those (especially the women) whom he treated like absolute trash. I suppose all that misogyny was out of anger that he wasn't born female.
 
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Aaa0aaa0

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I told my Mum about it and she said to leave the group.
You have a good mum. It always warms my black heart to see people's parents support them on these things, even if they aren't into lbgt+ politics they know what's good for their loved ones - I am thankful for my own boomer ass family members to support me on stuff like this too.
 

Cactus Wings

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Met a guy ages ago on Steam. Super nice, exploring his gay shit. Nice bi-curious boyfriend, whole nine yards.

5 years later, trans. Okay.. Girlfriend? Sweet. Back into sex and loving it? Amazing. Aaaand now they're a lesbian, mocking me as I try to have genuine conversation because I found it weird that his dissatisfaction with having a dick suddenly enabled sex with his 'lesbian' girlfriend. It's quite amazing that troony indoctrination can turn an unhappy gay guy into a happy lesbian who just so happens to have a dick he doesn't use on his hot babe of a girlfriend.

I removed him at that point. It's one thing to just sort of accept the whacky nature of the relationship, it's another to bruteforce logic into it because god forbid we can't label our gender and sexuality. Trans person and a bi/pan girl? Nah. We lesbians. Fuck that.
I don't think most people would have an issue with transgenderism if it was just a change in self-identity and not a fundamental change in personality and values. Overnight people suddenly act as though they had an overpriced education on the West Coast or in New England.
It's an easy way to lump all dissatisfaction with life into one problem and go "it's cause I was trans all along". Couldn't find a girlfriend? Fat? Acne? Bad genetics? Asocial? Shy? Wait, I was trans all along! If I had been a girl, it would've been different!
 

Mother puss bucket

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I don't think most people would have an issue with transgenderism if it was just a change in self-identity and not a fundamental change in personality and values. Overnight people suddenly act as though they had an overpriced education on the West Coast or in New England.
They would because it's dishonest. People know what a man is and they know what a woman is. When you ask people to lie to you they get upset about it. People don't like having to lie about things when it's obvious it's not true and they don't believe what you're making them say.

I have a steam friend I suspect is either a hardcore Japanophile or he's planning to cut his dick off soon. He's distancing himself from his real life and moving to Japan to start a new one. We haven't spoke in a couple of months because of life style clashes and I can't help but think he's getting into the troon rabbit hole. He's part of the coding circles which are overrun by them now. Tempted to say hey, tempted to ditch him and move on.
 

Niggernerd

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Oh god, hope it's not both. Imagine being a troon weeb in Japan, you'd get stares for the rest of your life. Hope he makes it out ok.
B-but Japan is very accepting and culturally tolerant!!!!!
I genuinely hope most of them believe this and go to probably the most xenophobic place imaginable. Might make them wake up pretty damn fast.
 

Mother puss bucket

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Oh god, hope it's not both. Imagine being a troon weeb in Japan, you'd get stares for the rest of your life. Hope he makes it out ok.

B-but Japan is very accepting and culturally tolerant!!!!!
I genuinely hope most of them believe this and go to probably the most xenophobic place imaginable. Might make them wake up pretty damn fast.
With so many weebs trooning out this can't be much rarer than the usual Loser at home types moving to Japan to begin with. Troons usually come from middle class families from what I've seen and those are the exact type of people who have the money to move to a new country to start fresh. Instead of moving to another state to start fresh they might move to Japan to start fresh. Name themselves after their waifu and end up 41ing out after 6 months of even deeper loneliness.
 

Aqua Panda

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I know a girl who is marrying a big trans lolcow in the Magic TCG community soon. (All while claiming to be asexual and diving headfirst in the more extreme elements of the Trans community.)

It has been really sad watching her meltdown. She was the classic awkward anime nerd tomboy type who came from a big Catholic family. College had her go full atheist and have a big fallout with her religious mom. She fell for a guy and was pumped and dumped by him senior year. She never recovered and that's when she started a "I'm totally asexual" despite obviously lusting after men phase.

Over the last few years the LGBT stuff became her identity. Not in the equal rights and access under the law way but every piece of her personal identity must be about her queerness and the more cult aspects of it. To the point she's been dropping hints she might go FtM. All while ranting about major depression. Full on champagne socialist as well.

Honestly, it's sad. I do wish her well, but I've kinda accepted that there is a good chance she'll eventually join the 41%. She never handled puberty well and I honestly wonder if the depression and awkwardness made her desperate for any place to fit in.
 
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Mother puss bucket

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I know a girl who is marrying a big trans lolcow in the Magic TCG community soon. (All while claiming to be asexual and diving headfirst in the more extreme elements of the Trans community.)

It has been really sad watching her meltdown. She was the classic awkward anime nerd tomboy type who came from a big Catholic family. College had her go full atheist and have a big fallout with her religious mom. She fell for a guy and was pumped and dumped by him senior year. She never recovered and that's when she started a "I'm totally asexual" despite obviously lusting after men phase.

Over the last few years the LGBT stuff became her identity. Not in the equal rights and access under the law way but every piece of her personal identity must be about her queerness and the more cult aspects of it. To the point she's been dropping hints she might go FtM. All while ranting about major depression. Full on champagne socialist as well.

Honestly, it's sad. I do wish her well, but I've kinda accepted that there is a good chance she'll eventually join the 41%. She never handled puberty well and I honestly wonder if the depression and awkwardness made her desperate for any place to fit in.
WOTC and the MTG community are pushing this stuff really hard at the moment and it's influencing a lot of weirdo awkward people to follow that path. Is she following it because she's lonely and thinks this is her only path to being accepted?
 

Aqua Panda

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WOTC and the MTG community are pushing this stuff really hard at the moment and it's influencing a lot of weirdo awkward people to follow that path. Is she following it because she's lonely and thinks this is her only path to being accepted?

IMO it's mainly so she can fit in somewhere. I also think her disastrous first sexual experience reverted her to the middle school "sex is gross" mentality. (Or subconsciously to save face.)

Obviously, that's her decision, but the sheer amount of what looks like grooming to me really makes me wonder.
 

Banditotron

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That's so shit. You'd think that for all the discrimination they cry about, they wouldn't do it to another person. I'm really sorry that he was so rude to you.
It might seem shitty of me to say, but I think that people who have experienced abuse or discrimination are the most likely to turn around and do it to someone else. It's the cycle of abuse. Abusers make abusers of the abused, bigots make bigots of the discriminated.
I think that insightful people, smart people, can break out of this cycle. It takes a smart person to see how they were hurt and understand how to make sure they don't pass that pain on.
 

Henry Wyatt

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I have a cousin who trooned out (FtM), I bickered with other family members about it and the troon's mum hardly spoke to the rest of the family since.
It's like the troon out affected other people rather than my cousin. It's strange.
Not saying that my argument is the sole cause, something else must have happened too but I don't know. I did apologise for my words.
"wow I started an argument, therefore its the trannys fault"
 

turdburger

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All the ones I've known are natal females. First one was someone I knew online, probably 15 years ago or more when it was still called transsexualism. She'd been unhappy with life for a while. I don't know what the ultimate outcome was because I lost contact with him.
The other two are both recent. One is a 20-something kid of a family I'm a friend to. In some ways he's mature, in others not so much. He's a good person with loving parents and I really hope he doesn't end up regretting it.
The other one is the teen kid of a relative. The kid's mother is a stupid, awful, intolerant 'identity politics' woman who saw the kid's autism diagnosis and later transgenderism as a bragging right and a victim privilege. The kid is obsessed with communism and anti-capitalism and BLM and trans rights and other dumb shit. I'm pretty sure this is doomed because this kid who wants to live as a gay man is about 5'4" with an overbite and no chin and pear-shaped build with no upper body strength and a massive fat butt, and is never going to be satisfied with the outcome.
 

Had

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In highschool was probably the first time I really started to question any of it
not because of "red pills or anything" just from watching the people around me.

One girl I knew in highschool was a total trender
In middle school she started telling everyone she was a lesbian, then she was trans, then she was no gender
she even when on to pretend to be disable causing her mother to have to take her to school herself everyday.

I knew this other girl who went though a similar deal
but rather than being disable she became Muslim and when no one cared she offed herself halfway though senior year

It's always seemed to me women younger liberal ones even more so tend to go though this cycle not of self discovery per say
but of trying to make themselves more and more of a victim like an adrenaline seeker seeking a high. I've yet to ever meet a trans
man who didn't go on to become some other self identity within a year.

What worries me more than anything is transgenderisms effect on kids, someone can try being gay get grossed out and
happily have a wife and kids, but with HRT the effects aren't reversible. Make no mistake trans advocates want HRT
to be as easy to buy as pain pills.

I think one of the main issues we face and one of the biggest ways to stop this is to help people understand why being a man is good.
If we continue to vilify men I fear this issue will never end.

"As sad as the story of many of the modern gays is, the story of the modern transsexual is the same in all ways, but worse... The story of the modern transsexual is the story of our collective future. " - Bap
 

Kornula

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I'm gay... I *used* to be part of the gay "community" here in Alaska until election night 2016. That is when 85% of my friends at the gay bar instantly disowned me for not crying because Shillary lost. At the time, I was not on the Trump Train...but I was (and still am) very glad that evil cunt did not get in the white house again. That being said... when I was the only person not crying (and I literally was the only person not crying over a fucking election) I knew right then and there I would have to defend myself. And I was right. Most of my fellow gays nearly spat in my face that night. Some kept talking to me.. at least only on Facebook, but it was something Trump commented honeslty that Dr. Christine (super victim) Blasey-Ford could not remember when or where she was "sexually assaulted" ..but she was 100% sure it was Kavanaugh... the local "gay Moses" of Anchorage; an obnoxious troon at this point calls itself "Goldie Banks" posted the viceo clip of Trump being honest. Goldie said no one should recieve that much shame no matter what.

Naturally, my instant reply was "good, the lying sult deserves all the insults she gets.. even if its from the President"

Now, I am not even welcome in both the gay bars in the whole state.. The feeling is mutual.
 

Aaa0aaa0

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It's always seemed to me women younger liberal ones even more so tend to go though this cycle not of self discovery per say
but of trying to make themselves more and more of a victim like an adrenaline seeker seeking a high. I've yet to ever meet a trans
man who didn't go on to become some other self identity within a year.

What worries me more than anything is transgenderisms effect on kids, someone can try being gay get grossed out and
happily have a wife and kids, but with HRT the effects aren't reversible. Make no mistake trans advocates want HRT
to be as easy to buy as pain pills.

I think one of the main issues we face and one of the biggest ways to stop this is to help people understand why being a man is good.
If we continue to vilify men I fear this issue will never end.
I feel like those women are the same kind that would be like "I'm not like other girls" years earlier. They're trying to find not themselves, but support and love by grabbing onto popular movements of oppression. "This is why people don't like me, pity me" and "I'm always bullied and never fit it, it's because I'm actually trans, it all makes sense" sort of deals. It's very sad.

I really hope as we get towards the decade long marker of this madness that most who detransitioned don't kill themselves. I want to see more people who go on with their lives in spite of their mistakes, and hopefully have voices to speak up when other people start detransing. It blows man.
Trans people wanting OTC hormones make me laugh. There's a reason you go to the doctor and have doctors visits, it's not to be told "oh you're looking so much more like a man/lady/nonbinary", it's so they can monitor whether you're going to get a bloodclot or other affliction as a side effect of the fucking hormones. A lot of these people are going to be fucking shocked when it turns out hormones have side effects other than making you look more like the other geneder, and half of that will be on the troon lobby trying to get informed consent into everyone's hands like the tards they are.

I think the same on the male troon end of the scale. I think another is better understanding of oneself & others if say they have autism.
I'm gay... I *used* to be part of the gay "community" here in Alaska until election night 2016. That is when 85% of my friends at the gay bar instantly disowned me for not crying because Shillary lost. At the time, I was not on the Trump Train...but I was (and still am) very glad that evil cunt did not get in the white house again. That being said... when I was the only person not crying (and I literally was the only person not crying over a fucking election) I knew right then and there I would have to defend myself. And I was right. Most of my fellow gays nearly spat in my face that night. Some kept talking to me.. at least only on Facebook, but it was something Trump commented honeslty that Dr. Christine (super victim) Blasey-Ford could not remember when or where she was "sexually assaulted" ..but she was 100% sure it was Kavanaugh... the local "gay Moses" of Anchorage; an obnoxious troon at this point calls itself "Goldie Banks" posted the viceo clip of Trump being honest. Goldie said no one should recieve that much shame no matter what.

Naturally, my instant reply was "good, the lying sult deserves all the insults she gets.. even if its from the President"

Now, I am not even welcome in both the gay bars in the whole state.. The feeling is mutual.
You live on spite and I kinda admire that. A hard ass bitch in a hard ass state. :punished:

You'd also think that considering your fucking state you'd have more gays who were republican or not die-hard blue. I guess those aren't the type to join up at the gay bars I suppose.
 

nigger of the north

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Over half of voters know someone who has trooned out. Where do you people live, and what the hell is going on with your friend group?

Perhaps it's because I don't frequent or take part in any of the hotspot hobbies/circles where this happens - gaming, anime, being a stupid nigger et al; but I legitimately cannot think of a single person, no matter how far related, who has trooned out.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time though.
 

Aaa0aaa0

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Over half of voters know someone who has trooned out. Where do you people live, and what the hell is going on with your friend group?

Perhaps it's because I don't frequent or take part in any of the hotspot hobbies/circles where this happens - gaming, anime, being a stupid nigger et al; but I legitimately cannot think of a single person, no matter how far related, who has trooned out.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time though.
A lot of people commenting here are under 30 and or LBG themselves. Under 30 means you're more likely to find people who troon out either in person or online since its how a small subset of our generation are coping, and LBG people gravitate to other gays, some who troon out. Kiwifarms users also are nerds who hang out with other socially awkward people IRL and in online communities, which is another troon factor.

I live in a big city and am surprised I don't see more troons, the only two I know IRL are a friend of a friend who I lost contact with a while ago and my friend in the OP who went to an art school college (so a heavy LBGT prescene already). Then again I tend to steer away from people who set off my crazy radar.
 

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