Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[glass_houses]

I don't know any troons personally but I'm spotting them out in the wild (Brisbane Australia) semi regularly. At least one a month, sometimes every week or two. Usually MTF, but I see FTM on occasion. What I find interesting about the MTFs is that apparently, bras aren't required garments for them. I'm short so usually the first thing I see is eye level tube tits, and then I look up to see a man face.

It's definitely a worldwide phenomena.

 

[RembrandtCourage]

A thought struck me recently. Does anyone have any old records of suicide rates among transgendered people before the 2010s when it seemed to really become a fad or an ultra low effort at changing themselves? I can't help but think that the 41% thing only recently came to be as more and more people came into this sort of thing in the 2010s

 

[nigger of the north]

A lot of people commenting here are under 30 and or LBG themselves. Under 30 means you're more likely to find people who troon out either in person or online since its how a small subset of our generation are coping, and LBG people gravitate to other gays, some who troon out. Kiwifarms users also are nerds who hang out with other socially awkward people IRL and in online communities, which is another troon factor.

I live in a big city and am surprised I don't see more troons, the only two I know IRL are a friend of a friend who I lost contact with a while ago and my friend in the OP who went to an art school college (so a heavy LBGT prescene already). Then again I tend to steer away from people who set off my crazy radar.

I'm just past 30, so maybe slightly out of the generation which this stuff is really hitting. But I live in the centre of a big city, and I do occasionally see troons 'in the wild,' especially as this is a trendy part of the city where leftie views and the LGBT scene are practically hand in hand. They're always invariably MtF, never anything else.

The fact that nerd culture predominates amongst these people does reinforce the idea that it's a byproduct of internet addiction and social isolation. It's always spergs and weaboos, gaming neckbeards and sundry losers who go in for this shit. Contrary to popular belief, you absolutely can be addicted to the internet/the online world.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

A lot of these retard troons could have been saved by some well timed bullying/parental beatings.

Sad! Many such cases.

 

[Aaa0aaa0]

A lot of these retard troons could have been saved by some well timed bullying/parental beatings.

Sad! Many such cases.

I know you're half joking, but I think that bullying has fucked up people towards trooning out. Someone who's seel confidience and people skills are shit are more likely to be at risk than any other group aside from sissy hypno porn enthusiasts. Tranistioning by Internet Trolling syndrome is one of our pseudoscientific terms for a reason.

Truthfully, a well timed bullying would push some people to anhero, which is all fine for pedo sex pest troons but for young guys and gals who can turn their life around it would be a shame.

Good parenting though is fucking crucial, even if everyone tries to shame you into fucking your kid's life over.

 

[Kiislova]

A lot of these retard troons could have been saved by some well timed bullying/parental beatings.

Sad! Many such cases.

Bully early, and often.
- Sam Hyde

 

[bored loser]

I think there's some insane stat about trans people in Gen z. Something about 1/4-1/5 being any sort of trans (or maybe that's LGBTQ+ in general, who knows). That seems pretty accurate to me and everyone I know. I'd even believe 1/2 were.

 

[Kornula]

I feel like those women are the same kind that would be like "I'm not like other girls" years earlier. They're trying to find not themselves, but support and love by grabbing onto popular movements of oppression. "This is why people don't like me, pity me" and "I'm always bullied and never fit it, it's because I'm actually trans, it all makes sense" sort of deals. It's very sad.

I really hope as we get towards the decade long marker of this madness that most who detransitioned don't kill themselves. I want to see more people who go on with their lives in spite of their mistakes, and hopefully have voices to speak up when other people start detransing. It blows man.
Trans people wanting OTC hormones make me laugh. There's a reason you go to the doctor and have doctors visits, it's not to be told "oh you're looking so much more like a man/lady/nonbinary", it's so they can monitor whether you're going to get a bloodclot or other affliction as a side effect of the fucking hormones. A lot of these people are going to be fucking shocked when it turns out hormones have side effects other than making you look more like the other geneder, and half of that will be on the troon lobby trying to get informed consent into everyone's hands like the tards they are.

I think the same on the male troon end of the scale. I think another is better understanding of oneself & others if say they have autism.

You live on spite and I kinda admire that. A hard ass bitch in a hard ass state.

You'd also think that considering your fucking state you'd have more gays who were republican or not die-hard blue. I guess those aren't the type to join up at the gay bars I suppose.

There is only one other gay Republican that I met in this state. We are both banned from the only gay bars in the whole state. (both are here in Anchorage.)

PS, I lived in San Francisco through most of the 1980s. I met quite a few "trannies" (most were just crazy pre ops who never followed through) Every single one of them was bat shit crazy

 

[Teazel]

Came home, found my boyfriend wearing one of my dresses and jerking off into my underwear. Bit of an anxious guy, but a seemingly normal musician/cook. I knew he'd crossdressed for like, Rocky Horror but nothing crazy. I had to navigate a bit of shit when I broke up with him because he instantly came out and troon shielded, and in a very progressive place, I suddenly had to describe what was really creepy behavior as him "discovering herself". We'd gotten along well before that, and I had no idea. Now I believe he is living as his brave and stunning self, and I destroyed most of my clothes after that. Now I'm very unnerved of trans people, especially mtfs.

 

[Kornula]

Over half of voters know someone who has trooned out. Where do you people live, and what the hell is going on with your friend group?

Perhaps it's because I don't frequent or take part in any of the hotspot hobbies/circles where this happens - gaming, anime, being a stupid nigger et al; but I legitimately cannot think of a single person, no matter how far related, who has trooned out.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time though.

I am into theater... Up until 2016, I was employed by the theater companies in Anchorage. Now, not one of them talks to me.

 

[Cope or Rope]

I find it funny when i go on the internet and hear about Ftm's going from easy mode to ultranightmare mode especially if they're say 5'7 and then the become a man and they realized how easy females have it. It's good lifefuel tbh

 

[NerdShamer]

Came home, found my boyfriend wearing one of my dresses and jerking off into my underwear.

Any bets that he's been reading those Japanese comics?

 

[Niggernerd]

I think there's some insane stat about trans people in Gen z. Something about 1/4-1/5 being any sort of trans (or maybe that's LGBTQ+ in general, who knows). That seems pretty accurate to me and everyone I know. I'd even believe 1/2 were.

That's indoctrination at work. Troons don't even deny they want to see all gen z as lgbqtlmnop+

 

[Had]

I don't know any troons personally but I'm spotting them out in the wild (Brisbane Australia) semi regularly. At least one a month, sometimes every week or two. Usually MTF, but I see FTM on occasion.

"Evidence suggests that the prevalence has increased over the last decades to up to 5–14 male-to-female transgender (MtF) individuals per 1000 adult males and 2–3 female-to-male transgender (FtM) individuals per 1000 adult females." (link)
MTF's are 0.014% where as FTM are 0.003% of the population I'm sure the % has grown since this study in 2017.
But the point is that, men are much more likely to transition than women hence they make up a high %

to get even more into the scientific explanation
TL DR they blame it on X-chromosome's since men have more they are more likely to be trans

Spoiler

when looking around I found this

"Genes linked to transsexuality are found on the X-chromosome, and since men have only 1 copy of this chromosome, atypical alleles are more likely to be expressed phenotypically in men.
A similar ratio of men to women is found in sexual orientation, where gay men are approximately twice as common as gay women.

"A variant genotype for a gene called CYP17, which acts on the sex hormones pregnenolone and progesterone, has been found to be linked to female-to-male transsexuality but not MtF transsexuality. Most notably, the FtM subjects not only had the variant genotype more frequently, but had an allele distribution equivalent to male controls, unlike the female controls. The androgen receptor (NR3C4) is activated by the binding of testosterone or dihydrotestosterone, where it plays a critical role in the forming of primary and secondary male sex characteristics."

Coming at it from a normie angle I'm not sure about this explanation, it makes sense that they would be apx double since women only have one x-chromosome.
but it still doesn't seem like it's the full explanation

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

"Evidence suggests that the prevalence has increased over the last decades to up to 5–14 male-to-female transgender (MtF) individuals per 1000 adult males and 2–3 female-to-male transgender (FtM) individuals per 1000 adult females." (link)
MTF's are 0.014% where as FTM are 0.003% of the population I'm sure the % has grown since this study in 2017

Its a proportionately very small percentage of the population but is very visible because its kinda hard to ignore if you come across one, same with autistic people, they have a way of becoming memorable even as such a small minority.

 

[Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite]

A thought struck me recently. Does anyone have any old records of suicide rates among transgendered people before the 2010s when it seemed to really become a fad or an ultra low effort at changing themselves? I can't help but think that the 41% thing only recently came to be as more and more people came into this sort of thing in the 2010s

The 41% thing is kind of skewed tbh with you. It is the result of a poll posted that relied on self reporting and given the propensity for this group to angle itself as the ultimate victim and over-dramatize everything I have doubts the actual number lines up to that.

EDIT: https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/suicidality-transgender-adults/
Here is the study. Its beyond flawed.
"The 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS), which is the largest survey of transgender people in the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes, and 7.3 percent reported attempting suicide in the past year."

When its self report, the suicide attempt could be anything from taking 3 Tylenol PM to trying to buy a gun, failing, and crying.

 

[Cyberfunk]

Over half of voters know someone who has trooned out. Where do you people live, and what the hell is going on with your friend group?

Perhaps it's because I don't frequent or take part in any of the hotspot hobbies/circles where this happens - gaming, anime, being a stupid nigger et al; but I legitimately cannot think of a single person, no matter how far related, who has trooned out.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time though.

Again if you are part of online communities, specially hobbies like gaming and anime you will find them.

Also if you work in tech, companies might have at least 1 trans person that will become your coworker for extra woke points, but this goes in hand with professions that keep people isolated like programming.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

Over half of voters know someone who has trooned out. Where do you people live, and what the hell is going on with your friend group?

Perhaps it's because I don't frequent or take part in any of the hotspot hobbies/circles where this happens - gaming, anime, being a stupid nigger et al; but I legitimately cannot think of a single person, no matter how far related, who has trooned out.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time though.

My only acquaintance with a troon is via work, and they're basically just a gay man with tits bolted onto their chest and paint's their face.

 

[Jeff Boomhauer]

I went on a couple of dates in High School with a girl that eventually transitioned in 2017 (our adulthood). We decided to remain friends, though I think I dodged a bullet because she started really getting around after that.

She used to be a pretty redhead with long hair, but the last time I saw her before her transitioning, she chopped all her hair off and got awful septum and lip piercings.

Now "he" dyes her hair stupid colors all the time, including one time where she had a neon-green mohawk. She also once had the worst possible fake(?) beard I had ever seen. It was like someone cut up a carpet sample and glued it to her face. She's now dating someone that I genuinely don't know if they're a man or a woman.

She works at my local grocery store, so I see her nearly once a week. It's still awkward even just saying hello, even when it's been nearly 4 years since she transitioned.

 

[PeeveTheSheev]

I have two stories to share of FtMs who I have no personal investment in other than observing their behaviour after having interacted with them in the past.

The first is the daughter of bookshop owners who are best known for continually pissing off the traditionalist/conservative town they are based in with left-wing schemes, including denouncing Christmas due to celebrations being offensive to minorities. The daughter received her mother's name upon birth, which might clue you into their family dynamic. This girl studied theatre art, working on her own projects such as hanging out with hookers in an erotic gay club and locking herself into a room in an almost-naked state for a few days straight with only paint and canvas to keep her occupied. She culturally enriched a country in Asia for about a year and is currently teaching theatre to children in immigrant / refugee camps. I'm surprised she hasn't been strung up by the parents yet.

This girl always presented with shortish hair but in the past year started to require they / them pronouns and lobbed off her breasts via a mastectomy. She seems unhealthily obsessed with them though, frequently showing off her grotesque scars as well as calling attention to custom breasted stuff animals and coffee mugs with nipples. She is currently producing a webseries about breasts and recorded possibly the worst theme song in existence, which I sadly cannot share without revealing her identity. She also lived in a campervan for a while, but currently occupies a regular apartment where she expands her collection of gaudy tattoos and nose piercings.

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The other case is a girl I had physical relations with - I was older than her and ran into her right as she started her BSc in a STEM field. This was a plenty feminine person, who enjoyed riding her horses and playing games like the Sims and Assassin's Creed which are traditionaly popular with the fairer sex - I later heard she had her walls painted with a landscape taken from some indie game. While a bit chunky, this was unmistakably a woman but I suspect it was the enablers she surrounded herself with that sent her down the troon path. She ended up taking hormones, growing out facial hair but completely failing to pass, changed her name, and recently got engaged to a man that claims to be homosexual and has the nastiest hair you'll ever see. The girl now works in a dead-end job wherein she resets passwords for clueless old people all day - the Bsc and later Msc going to complete waste.

Both girls have no child-rearing ambitions and instead dote on pets instead. Neither had a history of mental illness but did sit at the centre of support networks that enabled them - the former case encouraged by her artsy friends and the strangest set of parents you'll ever meet while the latter case was encouraged by the gamer crowd that has led to so many men trooning out.


Having read this thread I feel like most of the experiences described by Farmers deal with MtF transitions, so hopefully this post will have highlighted the other side of the coin some more (or really just entertained one of you). Women are perhaps just as susceptible to being lured into irreparably damaging their bodies by subsets of society that reward such behaviour as men are. The former girl was likely a lost cause anyway with parents like the ones she has, but the latter could be seen in a different light; in this brave and stunning current year she spends her days popping hormones and pegging a man, whereas she would almost certainly have matured into a normal Cisgender mother had she been born as little as ten years earlier.