Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Vingle]

I don't use preferred pronouns (I use 'they' for all trans-identifying people).

But do you use they for the ones that actually want to be referred to as they? I would call them it. Don't really think anyone wants to be referred as that, and you can't really be caught in using that for passive-aggressive reasons because "I don't know what pronoun to use", and you don't get paid to care.

 

[Aaa0aaa0]

But do you use they for the ones that actually want to be referred to as they? I would call them it. Don't really think anyone wants to be referred as that, and you can't really be caught in using that for passive-aggressive reasons because "I don't know what pronoun to use", and you don't get paid to care.

I am sorry to inform you that some tards do.


Just searching it/its on twitter gives you examples.


I use they/them or their original pronouns for these people. I am not calling someone a fucking it in conversation, it is too goddamn confusing.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

and I hope it doesn't impact the videos he makes.

It will. It always does.

 

[Buster]

I got a couple of stories like this.

First one, Friend A, was a guy I met in middle school. Weeby autist, but he at least had enough social awareness to not make a total fool of himself. He and I bonded over our shared interest in video games (particularly RPGs, nobody else I knew was into RPGs so it was a big deal to me then).
He and I were tight and I considered him one of my best friends throughout my teenage years. After high school, he went to college, and I got a job. We still found time to hang out when we could, and for a while, everything was fine. But during his fourth year at college (I don't remember what he studied), he suddenly changed. One day, he tried to talk to me about what gender "means", and I really had no idea what to say to him. The next day, he "came out" as "agender", and I tried to humor him as best I could.
Over the next couple of years, we quickly drifted apart, and every time I saw him, he'd always want to talk about social issues and politics, even when I was clearly not interested in doing so. He became humorless and just a drag to hang out with in general.
I haven't spoken to him in a few years now, he just doesn't seem interested in being my friend anymore.

The second, Friend B, was a guy I met around the time A came out as "agender". He was similar, a weeb and an autist with whom I bonded over video games. He and I were, again, good friends for a few years, until a couple of years ago when he came out as...you guessed it, agender!
By this point I had become more than a little jaded, so I said something like "Yeah, that tracks". B got extremely upset over this, refusing to let it go, and eventually attempted to manipulate me into becoming transgender too, at which point I said fuck it and cut him loose.
Last I'd heard he's now "transfeminine non binary" and asks for "she/it" pronouns.
How the fuck does this keep happening to me?

On a more positive note, there's Friend C. Friend C is also "non binary" (more honestly, FTM transgender) and he (I'm gonna gender him as he asks, fuck you) is the greatest friend I've ever had. He was already trans when I met him, and he's super chill, super fun, and never talks about political shit.

But for real how the fuck did this become my life

 

[Vingle]

But for real how the fuck did this become my life

You aren't judgemental enough, you consider a troon one of your best friends.
It's called karma.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

I got a couple of stories like this.

First one, Friend A, was a guy I met in middle school. Weeby autist

The second, Friend B, was a guy I met around the time A came out as "agender". He was similar, a weeb and an autist with whom I bonded over

But for real how the fuck did this become my life

I feel for you man, but- there's def a pathology thats infecting tons of people, and it hits the weeby type especially hard moreso than others. Tbh, Ive got theories Im not going to go into here, but could just be the issue that anime has become incredibly moe influenced, isekei soaked, and theres just too much hentai now

 

[Had]

(before anyone asks, yes, the government is in fact paying a guy to take me to the gym)

Bro I gotta get me this deal, free gym membership and government mandated gym buddy.

 

[90theguy]

I've met about 3 that eventually trooned out


one was this wannabe game designer who eventually trooned out and became a suicidal wreck most likely trooned out due to family issues

one was this autist twitter dude who trooned out likely due to outside influence

might be more but i'm not sure

 

[Desu Mountain]

Bro I gotta get me this deal, free gym membership and government mandated gym buddy.

Technically he's not paying for my gym membership. I say technically because he's been a member of the gym for so many years they're allowing him to take one person in with him for free.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

My fiance's youngest sister. She's going down the nonbinary route but with how my mom in law accepts it this kid may end up going down deeper into this lunacy. It sadly started when this girl was only around ten, but it first started as "coming out as a lesbian" even though the kid hasn't really given a shit about doing anything but hide in her room watching dumb youtube/tiktok shit. It evolved into the trans bullshit once puberty started to affect her. It's obvious she's just uncomfortable, but no, god forbid you try to tell this kid otherwise.

Despite being "nonbinary" and wanting to be called a they/them, she doesn't do anything to make herself look less feminine. It's all e-girl fashion or stupid cosplay shit relating to Danganronpa. Worst part in my opinion? The girl doesn't wash her fucking hair. I've seen it be an absolute greaseball of a dyed mess and the most she'll say about it is how she "doesn't know what to do about it."

I just want to scream.

This is basically what happened to my sister. She was a tomboy, started watching Tiktok and declared she was a lesbian, then several months later started calling herself non-binary.

 

[LooneyTroons]

What do you guys think would be the most reliable cure for transgenderism? I would say the most obvious things would be things like permanent disconnect from the internet, don't go to university and so on, but there's one thing that I don't see too many people talk about and that's religious conversion.
I'm quite interested in hearing the stories of people who either detransition or get away from SJW politics and one thing that frequently comes up is they decided to get away from it around the same time they find faith, predominantly Christianity, not surprising since most of this stuff all happens within the Christian Anglo-sphere anyway.

We've all heard the take that can now more or less be taken as a given that SJW's and radical lefty's treat their politics as a religion. It's becoming a bit of a tired meme at this stage because it's so self evident. So often these people are just desperate for meaning, purpose, direction, things that used to be provided by faith but now that everything's become so secular it has to be sought elsewhere. Loads of the people who were former SJW's who found faith or detransitioners seem genuinely more happy, stable, productive and just glad to be alive. Better having to go to mass on Sundays than telling yourself "if I just spend enough money and mutilate my body enough, THEN I'll be happy"

I saw a video about a guy talking about Christopher Hitchens and the new atheism of the 2000's which I'm sure many of us remember, hell some of us probably got swept up in it ourselves. What started as people trying to make sense of ancient dogma and scripture didn't take long to morph into irrational hatred and contempt, both for religion and religious people. I'm sure a few of you probably tried to get a gotcha moment on your religious family members round the dinner table at Christmas. But look where that lead. So many of us thought that if religion was stamped out, and treated with hatred and contempt, and that if the world could be forced to adapt secular liberal values then the world would be better off. Christopher Hitchens was an intellectual darling who supported all the wars in the Middle East just because of his irrational hateboner for religious people, and look at the shit show that turned into and how it only served the ends of the elites. Looking back on the 2000's and seeing where secular, globalist liberalism has led the west what a fucking dark legacy. Trooning really is just the most distilled form of it. And don't get me wrong, as my profile suggests I love dunking on troons (especially the coomer ones) as much as the next guy but if I thought classic religious prescriptions would get us out of the state were in I would be hard pressed to take it off the table.

I don't consider myself a Christian, nor of any religious tradition really, I'm too much of a Nietzche fanboy for that but it's worth noting that religious conversion is the number 1 most reliable method for getting smokers to quit. Much as part of me is loathed to admit it, maybe Christ-pilling the troons is the way to go.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

What do you guys think would be the most reliable cure for transgenderism? I would say the most obvious things would be things like permanent disconnect from the internet, don't go to university and so on, but there's one thing that I don't see too many people talk about and that's religious conversion.
I'm quite interested in hearing the stories of people who either detransition or get away from SJW politics and one thing that frequently comes up is they decided to get away from it around the same time they find faith, predominantly Christianity, not surprising since most of this stuff all happens within the Christian Anglo-sphere anyway.

We've all heard the take that can now more or less be taken as a given that SJW's and radical lefty's treat their politics as a religion. It's becoming a bit of a tired meme at this stage because it's so self evident. So often these people are just desperate for meaning, purpose, direction, things that used to be provided by faith but now that everything's become so secular it has to be sought elsewhere. Loads of the people who were former SJW's who found faith or detransitioners seem genuinely more happy, stable, productive and just glad to be alive. Better having to go to mass on Sundays than telling yourself "if I just spend enough money and mutilate my body enough, THEN I'll be happy"

I saw a video about a guy talking about Christopher Hitchens and the new atheism of the 2000's which I'm sure many of us remember, hell some of us probably got swept up in it ourselves. What started as people trying to make sense of ancient dogma and scripture didn't take long to morph into irrational hatred and contempt, both for religion and religious people. I'm sure a few of you probably tried to get a gotcha moment on your religious family members round the dinner table at Christmas. But look where that lead. So many of us thought that if religion was stamped out, and treated with hatred and contempt, and that if the world could be forced to adapt secular liberal values then the world would be better off. Christopher Hitchens was an intellectual darling who supported all the wars in the Middle East just because of his irrational hateboner for religious people, and look at the shit show that turned into and how it only served the ends of the elites. Looking back on the 2000's and seeing where secular, globalist liberalism has led the west what a fucking dark legacy. Trooning really is just the most distilled form of it. And don't get me wrong, as my profile suggests I love dunking on troons (especially the coomer ones) as much as the next guy but if I thought classic religious prescriptions would get us out of the state were in I would be hard pressed to take it off the table.

I don't consider myself a Christian, nor of any religious tradition really, I'm too much of a Nietzche fanboy for that but it's worth noting that religious conversion is the number 1 most reliable method for getting smokers to quit. Much as part of me is loathed to admit it, maybe Christ-pilling the troons is the way to go.

what

 

[Vingle]

Most reliable way would be a bullet through their head, but since it's illegal for others to help them that way, that means they have to do it themselves.
I would say appearing as KF-threads is helping them in that direction.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Tbh, Ive got theories Im not going to go into here, but could just be the issue that anime has become incredibly moe influenced, isekei soaked, and theres just too much hentai now

they probably watched one too many MtF gender bender hentai flicks and figured that they could get passed around like a Bop-It as a "woman" instead of persisting as a sexless weeb

 

[DumbDude42]

this thread is the most depressing thing i've seen in years

the only troon-out i've personally witnessed was a dude i met on a video game forum some ~10 years ago. he was one of those 'ironic' weebs that constantly post about waifu shit while also making "haha weebs fucking suck lol" jokes, but half the fucking forum was like that so i didnt think anything of it. at some point (i think it was in 2014) he started calling himself "alice" instead of his old name, and he also started acting super catty and bitchy about everything. and he began spamming a bunch of offtopic threads with mega clickbait lgbt outrage news posts (think pink news, that kind of shit)
he was the first tranny on that forum (its a pretty small community) and nobody really knew what to make of it. initially some people made fun of the situation and mocked him, but he got the admins to issue warnings and temporary bans against them. i thought that was super fucking lame and just kinda checked out of the place, so i have no idea how things developed past that point

 

[Vingle]

Never lost someone to the troons, since he wasn't in my life from the start. There was a guy I wanted to fuck, he wasn't into me. Years later after he trooned out, he's suddenly into me and were "stalking" my profile on Grindr. Just visiting my profile often, without saying anything. Still creepy.

Sorry not sorry mate, you made yourself ugly

 

[teriyakiburns]

Another one. Writer I used to know reasonably well, to the point of hanging out a couple of times a year when we had the chance. Generally sensible sort of chap... until he fell in with a literal tankie cult (love-bombing, ostracism for disagreeing with the leader, enforced behaviours, rejection of the past self, the works) that turned him completely against me in a couple of months. Obviously I checked out of that relationship. Went and looked him up recently, he's almost completely isolated himself from everyone we knew and spends all his time proclaiming his pronouns as "she/her" and ranting in that bizarre pseudo-language they all use to sound smart.

He was the normiest of normies in most ways. No sperging or anything, no extreme political rants. Just normal. Chill, you know? Now he's dead and a lunatic has stolen his skin.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

a literal tankie cult

Was this BAMN, by any chance?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Was this BAMN, by any chance?

No. Smaller scale. Some australian faggot and a bunch of his hangers-on.

 

[Nuthatch]

Lost my longest friend to Troonism and another "friend" due to my views on it.

First friend was my first ever online friend that I've now known for almost 15 years. She was really cool and when we would draw our characters together and talk about anime etc. She is definitely autistic and dislikes most women. When the art community became infested with social justice, cancel culture, and 374 genders etc I bailed out and basically became a normie in comparison and switched career trajectory. My friend stayed in the community and makes all of her characters nonbinary, trans, and/or black and lives in a ranch home with a bunch of Troons. She is constantly on the fence on whether she wants to take testosterone despite saying she's nonbinary and wants a double mastectomy. I feel bad for her because of her undiagnosed autism and how she still acts like the 12 year old I met with no real world experience and I'm a grown woman now. It always feels like I'm talking to a child. Now we pretty much never talk.

My second friend ghosted me after I gave her the book The Man Who Would Be Queen (lol) after she started talking about her amazing trans woman friend who is dating another trans woman and "she hasn't dated another penised person before". Now she has almost graduated med school somehow and advocates for brave and stunning trans women to be let into all women's sports in her free time. Enjoy your next brain surgeon, society!