Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[chickenbutt]

So, the moron fucking former friend I mentioned earlier in this thread has finally bit the metaphorical bullet and is fully trooning out her underage daughter. This is just about the only place I can talk about this openly other than a few radfem spaces, where I'd probably get chided for calling her a stupid cunt, but at this point that's what she is.

She posted about it today and since I barely use social media any more I'm just hoping she either deletes me quietly when I don't join the "stunning and brave" chorus of mongoloids she has going in the comments section, or at least has the sense to extrapolate from my silence and let sleeping angry bitches lie.

Spoiler: sperging because I'm mad as HELL

I've known this kid literally since she was born and she's a really neat girl, and this whole thing is just like watching a train crash in slow motion while being utterly powerless to stop it. She's a classic candidate for ROGD; abusive misogynist dad who left when she was a baby and whose bimonthly visits were a source of dread, weak-willed neurotic BPD mother with endless munchie health issues and the critical faculties of a gullible 12 year old, relatively new step family she's unsure of her place in, body image issues, sexuality issues, just... everything. I've been watching in despair as she morphed increasingly into her mother over the past few years, looking for attention through a series of retarded "identities" that just so happened to align perfectly with the sensibilities of her mother's clique of online SJW lunatics - who are the only people she seems to really interact with, because her mom is so paranoid about COVID they literally never left the house the entirety of last year and would panic if they unexpectedly encountered anyone outside of their "bubble". Which in itself is funny, considering that being fat is the only way in which any of them are high-risk, and her mom would probably still claim it's not a health risk itself and that it's only because of medical fatphobia.

As a result of all of this she's become an incredibly insecure, socially awkward, oversensitive, neurotic young woman. This is a girl who is frequently too shy to interact with other girls her age, let alone boys, and has absolutely zero positive male figures in her life because even her stepdad is 110% made of soy. She has literally zero reason to actually think that she's a boy, because she doesn't even interact with any enough to have any concept of what that could even potentially mean. You could not design a more perfect example of a girl who's plainly trooning out because she's painfully self-conscious and hates herself, and has never been taught not to - which I'm certain the lifetime of bad skin, patchy facial hair, increasing fatness, and being laughed out of male spaces if she's lucky enough to avoid getting victimized, is definitely going to help with. /sneed

Having grown up with brothers, the thought that this trembling, distinctly female, needy little bag of jello bears absolutely any resemblance whatsoever to actual teenage boys is just grimly hysterical. Not that boys can't be insecure, but this kid is insecure in a very distinctly female way, if that makes sense. She wouldn't have lasted 10 seconds interacting with my brothers or their friends at her age, and they were great kids - they just relentlessly made fun of/shit-talked/pranked each other the way teenage boys do. This girl bursts into tears if you accidentally use her "girl name" because amazingly, cutting her hair off and pretending she's a boy now has solved exactly zero of her plethora of mental problems. Somehow her mom expects cutting her tits off to have a better effect.

I feel such a mixture of rage and despair when her dumb fucking cunt of a mom posts these pictures of her barely looking into the camera, wearing massive clothes to hide the body she hates when she's not comfort eating, isolated from normal kids her age or any healthy peer attachments, like "LoOk At My AyDeN, i HaVe A sOn AnD hE's SooooOoo hApPy!!" and I'm just like:



If it was my middle-aged friend who was lopping her tits off for some inane reason, I would be able to roll my eyes and just walk away grateful that I was down an annoying but passably mentally competent adult in my life. But I don't even get that much, noooo. I get to watch while this young woman gets funneled down the path towards wrecking her voice, skin, and fuck knows what else with HRT, and amputating her completely healthy breasts, all cheerled by her gormless fucking excuse for a mother. She's starting her "transition" this month, and let's just say it's a good while before she's 18.

Good thing there's no way this can end badly!

I fucking hate this trend with the fire of a thousand suns. When the tranny menace has finally run its' course in a few years, I want to see some fucking heads roll for what they've done to literal children. And at this point I'm going to want to see some former friends among them, TBH. It's the end of our friendship, I mean, I can't see a way back from this - she was already annoying enough with the general SJW shit that I'd distanced myself, and I could cope with the stupid enby shit, but this is the absolute straw that broke the camel's back. She's not going to wake up any time soon, I've already tried, and even if she does it will be too late and I won't have it in me to say anything other than "what did I tell you, you unimaginably stupid cunt".

I realize how much swearing there is in this, but in case you can't tell, I'm mad at more than just the internet.

 

[cuddle striker]

This is relatively weaksauce compared to most of the other examples in this thread but my friend with benefits has come out as a heckin’ valid enby. She has changed literally nothing about herself other than her pronouns but she’s acting like she - as a conventionally attractive middle class heterosexual German woman - is some kind of oppressed minority now. She was always very social justice-y but it’s been taken to new heights, it's just constant. Every day she’s complaining about some new injustice that is LiTeRaLlY kIlLiNg non-binary folx, whether it’s the fact that she can’t get her gender on her passport changed or that the Association for the German Language says that the ‘gender star’ is a ridiculous imposition. (that’s another thing, we initially bonded over me trying to learn the language, but now when we text in German her messages are borderline unreadable with all the weird symbols to indicate gender neutrality)

The warning signs were there, I guess. A couple of months ago she asked me if I would be open to dating a trans man. I didn’t think much of it at the time but I hope it doesn’t mean she’s going to do a full troonout in the future. I think I successfully dodged it by saying that regardless of how I felt, if someone who believed themselves to be a man tried to sexually pursue a heterosexual male, they either don’t really believe in their own gender identity, or they don’t respect the sexuality of the man they’re persuing, and I wouldn’t want to be associated with a person like that.

In that sense I’m kind of irritated that she’s still expecting sexual attention from me. If you don’t believe you’re a woman anymore, and you want me to respect your identity, why would I still be attracted to you?

I’ve kept talking to her because I do genuinely like her as a person but she’s noticed that I ghost her every time she says something sexual and now she’s doing the “have I done something wrong? pls respond” routine. I know it’s kind of mean of me, but I feel that if I try and talk about this with her one of us is going to get mad and it’s going to end with a lot more unpleasantness, so it’s maybe easier to just let it fizzle out.

the easiest answer is always "I am a straight man, and you are not a woman". they're not a woman by their own words, they're non-binary. why would a straight or gay man be interested?

if you were bisexual it would be harder to pull this off, but you are not I don't think.

 

[Vingle]

Why can't you just delete her from social media yourself @chickenbutt? If you're done with her, you wouldn't care about her reaction. And I would notify CPS on her anyway, even if it probably will not help. The kid is underage and hopefully someone will see this as something a child can't choose for themselves. View it as a last closure.
If people actually dared to say something, and not be afraid of reactions. Something could happen.
The movement prey on unsure people, but I see from stories fellow farmers tell. That they usually shut the fuck up, if you don't give a fuck and never move on your opinion.

 

[LurkNoMore]

@chickenbutt

I can talk about this openly other than a few radfem spaces, where I'd probably get chided for calling her a stupid cunt, but at this point that's what she is.

Your gonna get chided here as well. Your friend isn't a stupid cunt, she's just a straight up abuser. Victimizing her child for asspats on the internet. We are well past stupid cunt territory here.

 

[chickenbutt]

Why can't you just delete her from social media yourself @chickenbutt? If you're done with her, you wouldn't care about her reaction. And I would notify CPS on her anyway, even if it probably will not help. The kid is underage and hopefully someone will see this as something a child can't choose for themselves. View it as a last closure.
If people actually dared to say something, and not be afraid of reactions. Something could happen.
The movement prey on unsure people, but I see from stories fellow farmers tell. That they usually shut the fuck up, if you don't give a fuck and never move on your opinion.

LOL, CPS?? She's Canadian, they'd probably try to sic the mounties on me just for misgendering her precious son. They literally criminalized not "affirming" (i.e. transitioning) any minor who wants it the other day. Not only do they not consider this shit child abuse, they consider it a literal criminal form of abuse to try to stop it. I'm outside of their jurisdiction to punish, but they are absolutely not going to do anything - and that's not just me being cynical, just realistic.

And it's not her reaction I care about, it's the kid - why do you assume we haven't already had this conversation/argument/me telling her she's retarded a million times already? We have, that's why I'm so frustrated. She knows exactly how I feel about this, and if I "dare to say something" one more goddamn time to her I'll go blue in the face. The only reason I've hung on so far was out of the vain hope that she'd somehow, somehow, draw the line at irreversible surgical transition. Now that she's crossed it, I probably will end up just ghosting her, but call me a sucker for caring about the child I guess. Sorry, but if it were as simple as your formula of just talking to these people suggests, this troon shit would've been relegated to the dustbin of history years ago.

@LurkNoMore - I agree entirely, really, I only call her that instead of an abuser because she's genuinely too stupid to understand that she is one. I think she genuinely buys into this shit, which is going to make the fallout in <5 years even more horrifying. Not that I intend to be around to observe it.

 

[Vingle]

You could dox her then @chickenbutt. You are not a sucker for caring about the kid, but you're too emotional about this. And that's why you got a bad time now.

 

[Medicinal Molduga]

Marxist dialectics very quickly adopted the sexual liberation of children as a means to break down the structure of capitalist society and the family unit. Marx himself didn't have much to say on the topic, but subsequent philosophers found justification for the stance in the fact that family relationships and the preservation of childhood innocence are social stabilisers. These thinkers also wanted to "liberate" themselves from the shackles of a society that prevented them from satisfying their immediate desires whenever they wished, whether that was to eat, sleep , or rape little boys. Unsurprisingly, many of these philosophical positions were french in origin.

It's hilarious when you guys pretend to know anything about Marxist theory. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[chickenbutt]

How is making her mom a lolcow supposed to help the kid? In any case, I'm not stupid enough to be the one to post someone who probably knows me well enough to recognize me from my writing style alone to the Farms.

And we're all in this thread to complain about personal situations we're somewhat emotional about, it's literally called "losing people to transgenderism support". It's right there in the title, not sure what the point of confusion is.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It's hilarious when you guys pretend to know anything about Marxist theory. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

Well then, I suppose Engels didn't know anything about Marxist theory either.

 

[Vingle]

I'm just suggesting things, you are the one taking this personally @chickenbutt.
Doxing is just reposting already public information, so it's not like she can do something about it. It won't save the kid, but at least it's something.

 

[DumbDude42]

I'm just suggesting things, you are the one taking this personally @chickenbutt.
Doxing is just reposting already public information, so it's not like she can do something about it. It won't save the kid, but at least it's something.

doxing her would, by extension, mean doxing herself because theres probably enough information in these posts to allow the people involved to identify her. i strongly recommend against it.

 

[Julie Newmar]

"his feelings matter more to him than my life"

as they should

I disagree with this, I think most human lives hold more value than someone’s feelings. That said, the issue here is that they aren’t saying what they mean: “their feelings are only allowed to be positive, because them having negative ones about me threatens my life.” That’s just not true.
Like if they were ok with people feeling negatively about them there wouldn’t be so much bullshit and cope.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

I disagree with this, I think most human lives hold more value than someone’s feelings. That said, the issue here is that they aren’t saying what they mean: “their feelings are only allowed to be positive, because them having negative ones about me threatens my life.” That’s just not true.
Like if they were ok with people feeling negatively about them there wouldn’t be so much bullshit and cope.

I mean, you did nail what I was talking about. However, I'd also add on that a lot of retarded trannies keep trying to emotionally manipulate people through this kinda weird fucking "cry-bullying" and get absolutely fucking mad that their bullshit doesn't work.

to PL a little, I know a troon that got absolutely fucking pissed that they didn't get an invite to a bride's bachelorette party or a groom's bachelor party. They then proceeded to try and bring it to the Uni's HR office, but the entire thing got shitcanned because it turns out the mtf troon couldn't prove that anyone knew them well-enough to ask lmao.

It was really funny being part of that shitshow because we had to answer conference calls with the school's Diversity Office or w/e it's called. Watched them get absolutely fucking pissed because their ego wasn't soothed. Apparently they thought they were some kinda social big-shot and that entitled them to free invites for everything? I genuinely don't know how else to describe how they looked aside from "imagine a guy in his '20s that went almost fully prematurely bald, that had very masculine features which he never took care of, that decided to fucking troon out and wear the laziest feminine clothing everywhere with dyed sideburns."

anyways this stupid fuck got a facial rearrangement from the bride's uncle punching him in the face after catching him in the middle of stalking the bride at some bridal dress fitting, if I remember correctly

I don't know if it made the news anywhere but it was kinda funny just watching the Uni try to find some excuse to wave fingers, but then it turned out that the troon literally didn't share a class or club with the bride or groom's circle of acquaintances. Turns out they'd only found out about the parties through some tangential social media posts. I fucking hate how social media and the troon cult gets people behaving like this.

 

[NerdShamer]

I mean, you did nail what I was talking about. However, I'd also add on that a lot of retarded trannies keep trying to emotionally manipulate people through this kinda weird fucking "cry-bullying" and get absolutely fucking mad that their bullshit doesn't work.

to PL a little, I know a troon that got absolutely fucking pissed that they didn't get an invite to a bride's bachelorette party or a groom's bachelor party. They then proceeded to try and bring it to the Uni's HR office, but the entire thing got shitcanned because it turns out the mtf troon couldn't prove that anyone knew them well-enough to ask lmao.

It was really funny being part of that shitshow because we had to answer conference calls with the school's Diversity Office or w/e it's called. Watched them get absolutely fucking pissed because their ego wasn't soothed. Apparently they thought they were some kinda social big-shot and that entitled them to free invites for everything? I genuinely don't know how else to describe how they looked aside from "imagine a guy in his '20s that went almost fully prematurely bald, that had very masculine features which he never took care of, that decided to fucking troon out and wear the laziest feminine clothing everywhere with dyed sideburns."

anyways this stupid fuck got a facial rearrangement from the bride's uncle punching him in the face after catching him in the middle of stalking the bride at some bridal dress fitting, if I remember correctly

I don't know if it made the news anywhere but it was kinda funny just watching the Uni try to find some excuse to wave fingers, but then it turned out that the troon literally didn't share a class or club with the bride or groom's circle of acquaintances. Turns out they'd only found out about the parties through some tangential social media posts. I fucking hate how social media and the troon cult gets people behaving like this.

So,what did the uni's diversity compliance officer say to you guys, "it's transphobic to exclude Kevin from your parties because he needs to validates his gender"?

 

[chickenbutt]

So,what did the uni's diversity compliance officer say to you guys, "it's transphobic to exclude Kevin from your parties because he needs to validates his gender"?

I want to know this, too - why were the uni HR department even involved?? What kind of bachelorette party requires guest list approval by any HR department? It's literally a private event, by nature you should be able to exclude anyone you want. I have so many questions.

Glad to hear he got his face re-arranged by the uncle, though, tell us more about that! What a psycho.

I'm just suggesting things, you are the one taking this personally @chickenbutt.
Doxing is just reposting already public information, so it's not like she can do something about it. It won't save the kid, but at least it's something.

You're suggesting rather dumb things, that's why I'm rejecting them for reasons I and others have already explained to you, and trying to understand what passes for your rationale here. It's also not the purpose of this thread, which I have also already explained to you.

 

[NerdShamer]

You're suggesting rather dumb things, that's why I'm rejecting them for reasons I and others have already explained to you, and trying to understand what passes for your rationale here.

They're hungry for another Tommy Tooter thread, since Thomas is close to kicking the bucket.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

I want to know this, too - why were the uni HR department even involved?? What kind of bachelorette party requires guest list approval by any HR department? It's literally a private event, by nature you should be able to exclude anyone you want. I have so many questions.

Glad to hear he got his face re-arranged by the uncle, though, tell us more about that! What a psycho.

nigga complained to the HR/Diversity department (it's strangely under some kinda merged department)

It was basically "I'm offended, fuck these people, I'm going to virtue signal".

But the fun part was that they were so incredibly stupid in handling it that the Uni couldn't even stretch any reason for this to be an issue. I got my ass dragged into it because of proximity to the people this shithead was whining about (I didn't even attend the parties, but apparently I was tagged in some social media thing about them).

anyways it got turned into a fiasco because the retard used his position in the Uni's rainbow club to pressure some kinda investigation or smear campaign on false pretenses. It ended with everything getting thrown under the rug and the University trying to memory-hole it.

Anyways I hear whispers of a civil suit over this, but given that nothing was ever said on official University publications/media and that no news outlet caught wind of it, this is going to end in a fizzle. I mean, every fact about this situation points to the troon being almost as dumb as CWC, but ten times more malicious.


Anyways the troon was apparently found waiting outside some rented residence that the bride's extended family were residing in for the two or so weeks. From what I know, the troon tried to pass themselves off as a close friend, but couldn't control the narcissistic autism that compels troons to talk about creepy perverted shit. It was funny because they immediately got punched by the uncle when the groom came by, laughed, and publicly (and drunkenly) told the situation to the extended family's men while the troon was trying to cozy up to the too-polite women.

Turns out it's a really bad thing to larp as someone's close friend to get into a wedding party/bachelorette party. Troon fucking knew a lot of specific and detailed info on someone he barely knew and it fucking pissed off everyone involved because he just didn't have the social awareness to consider what was creepy stalker behavior. (Troon never knew where the bride or groom lived, much less where the extended family rented a place for a while)

Anyways he got punched by a bunch of black uncles and tried to claim it was transphobic, but somehow thought the Uni would actually do something about a private event just because the bride and groom were attending the Uni.

 

[Vingle]

he got punched by a bunch of black uncles

A rare situation where niggers did the right thing.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

A rare situation where niggers did the right thing.

black people can and will be more homophobic/transphobic than MSM wants to admit.

 

[PaleTay]

Does pronouns in bio count? I swear every girl who has added pronouns to her bio has turned into a complete cunt. I knew one troon but it was an annoying girl before transitioning.