Love Letter and Yandere Sim Clones - Where jilted weebs try to one-up their former virgin-with-rage senpai

Autistador

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"Fair point, although it could just be a case of people not coming out and saying they were ERPing with this dude. If a child, yes, Apeis wasn't a child he was a teenager at the point talking to an actual prepubescent child, how is that not, at the very least, creepy?"

I said that it was creepy. The only thing I am disproving of here is that DrApeis is a pedo.

"Which country? This is quite the news to me."
Poland, although they recently changed it here. There are 8 classes in primary school, then you go to high school after that. I think the Czech Republic has the same thing, I'm not sure though.

"When did i say that? Please show me because i can guarantee you i never said that. I assume you meant my comment where you said they never had a sexual relationship? That's true, but they did have sexual relations."
Sorry, I mistook you for some other guy that said it.

"Same age offset? What the fuck are you talking about? And no, it should not be considered equally."
What I mean by "age offset" is how many years younger is the "victim". In this case, it's 5 years. They are in the same age group, the age gap is the same, so why shouldn't it be considered equally?

"But again, what do you mean by : "The relative age does not really matter in determining if someone is a pedophile, it's more based on absolute age" ? "
What I mean by that is that the age gap here doesn't really matter that much; if it did, then a 30-year-old dating a 25-year-old would be a pedophile. As I said, it's based on absolute age; you look at the age of the offender and the victim, and if the victim is below 18 and the offender is above 18, then, well, it's pedophilia. You don't just say "oh, the age gap is 5 years! that's pedophilia!"
Fair point, although it could just be a case of people not coming out and saying they were ERPing with this dude. If a child, yes, Apeis wasn't a child he was a teenager at the point talking to an actual prepubescent child, how is that not, at the very least, creepy?



Which country? This is quite the news to me.



When did i say that? Please show me because i can guarantee you i never said that. I assume you meant my comment where you said they never had a sexual relationship? That's true, but they did have sexual relations.



Same age offset? What the fuck are you talking about? And no, it should not be considered equally.



Fair enough, people have a different ways on seeing things. But again, what do you mean by : "The relative age does not really matter in determining if someone is a pedophile, it's more based on absolute age" ?
You've been arguing about the definitions of pedophilia for a while. I don't want to backseat moderate but you're shitting up the thread, so please take it to the DMs if you're so intent on your autistic slapfight.
 

CrippleFucker69

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Poland, although they recently changed it here. There are 8 classes in primary school, then you go to high school after that. I think the Czech Republic has the same thing, I'm not sure though.
Right, my bad, i meant to say the difference between the grades themselves. Over here we have elementary chopped into two parts : 1st-4th grade and 5-8th and it was pretty creepy that a high schooler was talking to someone who hadn't even finished the first 4 years. This is what i meant by different views.

What I mean by "age offset" is how many years younger is the "victim". In this case, it's 5 years. They are in the same age group, the age gap is the same, so why shouldn't it be considered equally?
Ok, sure. They're in the same age group, but definitely way different from 25 and 30. Mainly, that one of them is a mature person going through puberty (15) where as the other person is 3 years or so away from it (10). VERY big difference.

What I mean by that is that the age gap here doesn't really matter that much; if it did, then a 30-year-old dating a 25-year-old would be a pedophile. As I said, it's based on absolute age; you look at the age of the offender and the victim, and if the victim is below 18 and the offender is above 18, then, well, it's pedophilia. You don't just say "oh, the age gap is 5 years! that's pedophilia!"
See above comment above ^. Pedophilia isn't, at least in my opinion, about if the victim is under 18 and offender over 18. It's more so that one of the people has reached and is going or went through puberty where as their victim they're preying on hasn't even reached puberty yet.

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You've been arguing about the definitions of pedophilia for a while. I don't want to backseat moderate but you're shitting up the thread, so please take it to the DMs if you're so intent on your autistic slapfight.
Contribute something to the thread or fuck off. We're at least discussing something that's related to it.
 

Akpofure

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My point was that it wasn't pedophilia, but it was fucking creepy. In no way I am condoning what DrApepiss did, but saying "DrApeis is a pedophile" when it was just 2 kids with a big fucking age gap, with one kid being creepy is just incorrect and misinformation. Also, it was in the past, before LoveLetter was a thing, so saying that he still is a pedophile is just incorrect. (I'm in no way saying he shouldn't suffer consequences for his actions, but the post is saying that he is a pedophile, not that he was a pedophile [he wasn't even a pedophile in the first place, but whatever])

Yes, some of that was on me, I didn't word it correctly. But for some reason, I can't edit the post on my phone and honestly, I can't be bothered to edit it on my computer for petty drama.

TL;DR: It's fucking creepy and I don't condone it but it's still not pedophilia.
If you want to get into semantics, like it matters, pedophilia is classified as attraction to anyone prepubescent/below the age of 13 and at least 5 years older than the victim. So based on that, in the absolute best case scenario, he is on the thin line before legal classification.
 

Gunt.Inc

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Apeis was 15, he was attracted to a 10 year old. Is that not pedophilia by your own definition?
I forgot to add that you have to be above 16 to be diagnosed since the definition is from pedophilic disorder in the DSM-5. To be more clear my statment was just meant to clear up the fact that pedophilia is not a legal term also since you mentioned "pedophilia by law" I though you meant child sex abuse and were conflating the two. I misread it so my bad.
 

Changeofheart

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I was expecting some shitstorm to hit DrApeis since day 1, but not this at all. It's just way too ironic.

I can't quite grasp what exactly brings people like this attracted to the concept itself of yandere simulator or even just the concept of yanderes themselves: i watched mirai nikki when i was fucking 14 but i never gravitated towards anime-related autistic shit like gacha life or alex's game. There has to be something more that accomunates all these hundreds of thousands of autistic underage weeaboos together.

I'm not sure where Drapeis lives, but i'm 100% sure that sending explicit pics to a 10 year old is always punishable by the law regardless of the age of the person who did it and ignoring all the semantics about what pedophilia technically is according to the law.

He acknowledged it in a quick reply on a google document but i don't see many people discussing about it under his twitter posts.
 

tamago

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Who cares if it's pedophilia? That's not what matters the most here. What he did is beyond creepy no matter the label you try to give his actions. Especially when the kid was obviously uncomfortable with being shown his penis and then outright said she didn't like it.
The argument between pedophilia or not seems to distract from the fact that he did sexually harass a 10 year old and continued when she showed discomfort. If someone goes "it's not pedophilia" to defend him, they are just deflecting by saying he was a kid and totally ignoring everything else about it.
 
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Condicional

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Someone has published this expose called "My experience with DrApeis when I was 10" detailing predatory behavior, including requests that she masturbate for him.

Daily reminder that liking Anime means you're mentally ill.
The innocence and rise of the hermones that makes some teens to think only in sex and express it through internet like a parallel world, thinking that it wouldn't hit them back when they're older because they're "Protected" or "Children".
That double-morality when you're +3 years older and say +18 things to children smaller than you without worrying about it because: Hey! They're children like me, nothing will happen, right?
Yeah, "nothing will happen", until the person responsible for the child notices about it and proceed to cut you from their life and talk to your parents. Or the kid grows up and notice what a bad relationship you were (Expecting that there wasn't any type of physical touch or exchange of intimate photos).

This is why you should support sexual education or at least think about it, teach to your children how to protect their integrity and body. This whole thing is something that enter into this type of education, not everything revolves around latex gloves, birth control and diseases.

Childrens & Teens can be creeps too and people ignores that, this is bad at different levels. And we're not talking about a creep pretending to be a teenager, we're talking about a teenager that behaves like a pedo grooming children.

Edit: I expect that everyone here has got at least one friend, acquaintance or schoolmate that was into sexual things in some point of our life when we were smaller, I know that maybe some of us were that acquaintance.
Even if kids talk about sexual things, there's usually a tacit agreement that nobody mentions about not crossing that line. These screenshots about DrApeis is what happens when the crossing happens on internet.
 
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cjöcker

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he wasn't even a pedophile in the first place, but whatever
I'm convinced he's a pedofork. Think back to when you were 15. Were you interested in hanging out with 10 year olds, or 12 year olds? Older kids want nothing to do with younger kids and the fact that he was talking to a 10 year old girl was already pretty fucked but the shit he said to her isn't normal and if he's not a pedophile there's definitely some other issue with him.
 

Condicional

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I'm convinced he's a pedofork. Think back to when you were 15. Were you interested in hanging out with 10 year olds, or 12 year olds? Older kids want nothing to do with younger kids and the fact that he was talking to a 10 year old girl was already pretty fucked but the shit he said to her isn't normal and if he's not a pedophile there's definitely some other issue with him.
I disagree with you (Red text), physically everyone wouldn't give a fuck about other kids when you were 13.
I agree with the thing about the shit he said to her.

You forgot something, this is internet, the impossible happens, specially in games, your friend in "X" game may be 10 years old but he is one of those that plays with you and talk about the same things like another person.
And beware that some kids don't even talk like a kid of their age, or talk about things that usually a kid at that age doesn't care nor talk about. So it can be very misleading as you may not notice until they say "I'm actually 1x years old".

Is not fucked that he was talking to a 10 year old child. The fucked thing was how the kid was using internet while being that naive and innocent. To be talking to strangers while not being able to notice that it was a dangerous person, that is the parents fault for the lack of education.. or control. (Though, I can say that we're still new to internet, we're still in transition, there's still old people or adults 40+y'old that don't use it, so they don't know how to behave, and per see can't teach)

Personally I don't think that it should be a big problem to have a kid behaving on internet, but my opinion has a reason; You can't except the child to be strictly obedient.
There are kids that are smart enough to lie about their age and take care about their identity, others have parents on the back that teachs them how to behave, the do and don'ts, there's parents that just looks through the history of their navigation, their chats, etc...

The problem is that you need to guarantee the kid security, or guarantee that the kid is smart enough through teaching, like people did on internet over the years.
If we are by ourselves and we encounter a degenerate on internet, we just ignore him and block him instead of engaging, that's the type of things that should be motivated and teached, for the very reason that we can't completely "block" child from getting access to internet, nor having strangers talking to them.

I'm talking this from the perspective of a parent instead of the perspective of a stranger.

This question: "Why would you talk to a 10~15 year old kid?"
Should be: "Why would you talk to a 10~15 year old kid while being an adult?"

Let's pretend that you're not a 30 year old person nor 18 year old.
How would you feel if you got to know a person that was interested in the same thing as you, you two play the same game (I'm talking about games because is higher the posibility of getting to know a child), you were its friend for a year, a couple of months or while constant talking, and they reveals to you that is a child? Obviously you wouldn't treat it as a person of your age, right?
Remember, we're supposing that you're not an adult yet, just a teenager close to their age. You don't have the mentality of "It's younger than me and more inmature, nothing interesting to talk about with him, I can go to jail, etc.."
If you don't want to talk with children, you would feel very tempted to block him, but won't you also feel guilty about blocking him for being just a kid when the only thing you did with him was to play while you didn't got even an idea about their age?

Being an adult, I would feel awkward as fuck talking not only to a children, but to a 16 years old teen too, I wouldn't be interested in talking to one except if that kid is my student or wants to learn whatever that I teach. Still, I can't prevent them from talking to me or being in the same community, specially if it's a community "family friendly". For League of Legends players; You know right? There are kids there, but you don't think twice while playing it that there may be a child in your same team or enemy team. And don't talk about ToS, to lie in a Porn Webpage is an easy as to click a button. You're a robot?, no. You're +18 years old? Yes
What?, you need to prove your identity to play this game with a real name and number?; No bro, that's illegal and is against your privacity, you can't control the internet like that and be transparent. Even supposing that the internet is that controlled and it becomes a reality, you can't prevent your child from taking your wallet and put your data just to play a game.
Yah', kids are "stupid" and immature but they can be smart too. Ask other people how smart they were when children if you don't buy the idea.

Let's be honest, to be a child(-13) and protect them sucks. Even being a 17 years old sucks, you're not "old" enough nor young enough.
Is very hard to make a system on internet to protect ourselves as adults and also prevent children from engaging with freaks.... Even other children that are freaks too.
My head hurts thinking on this. :)
 
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myiqis53

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I disagree with you (Red text), physically everyone wouldn't give a fuck about other kids when you were 13.
I agree with the thing about the shit he said to her.

You forgot something, this is internet, the impossible happens, specially in games, your friend in "X" game may be 10 years old but he is one of those that plays with you and talk about the same things like another person.
And beware that some kids don't even talk like a kid of their age, or talk about things that usually a kid at that age doesn't care nor talk about. So it can be very misleading as you may not notice until they say "I'm actually 1x years old".

Is not fucked that he was talking to a 10 year old child. The fucked thing was how the kid was using internet while being that naive and innocent. To be talking to strangers while not being able to notice that it was a dangerous person, that is the parents fault for the lack of education.. or control. (Though, I can say that we're still new to internet, we're still in transition, there's still old people or adults 40+y'old that don't use it, so they don't know how to behave, and per see can't teach)

Personally I don't think that it should be a big problem to have a kid behaving on internet, but my opinion has a reason; You can't except the child to be strictly obedient.
There are kids that are smart enough to lie about their age and take care about their identity, others have parents on the back that teachs them how to behave, the do and don'ts, there's parents that just looks through the history of their navigation, their chats, etc...

The problem is that you need to guarantee the kid security, or guarantee that the kid is smart enough through teaching, like people did on internet over the years.
If we are by ourselves and we encounter a degenerate on internet, we just ignore him and block him instead of engaging, that's the type of things that should be motivated and teached, for the very reason that we can't completely "block" child from getting access to internet, nor having strangers talking to them.

I'm talking this from the perspective of a parent instead of the perspective of a stranger.

This question: "Why would you talk to a 10~15 year old kid?"
Should be: "Why would you talk to a 10~15 year old kid while being an adult?"

Let's pretend that you're not a 30 year old person nor 18 year old.
How would you feel if you got to know a person that was interested in the same thing as you, you two play the same game (I'm talking about games because is higher the posibility of getting to know a child), you were its friend for a year, a couple of months or while constant talking, and they reveals to you that is a child? Obviously you wouldn't treat it as a person of your age, right?
Remember, we're supposing that you're not an adult yet, just a teenager close to their age. You don't have the mentality of "It's younger than me and more inmature, nothing interesting to talk about with him, I can go to jail, etc.."
If you don't want to talk with children, you would feel very tempted to block him, but won't you also feel guilty about blocking him for being just a kid when the only thing you did with him was to play while you didn't got even an idea about their age?

Being an adult, I would feel awkward as fuck talking not only to a children, but to a 16 years old teen too, I wouldn't be interested in talking to one except if that kid is my student or wants to learn whatever that I teach. Still, I can't prevent them from talking to me or being in the same community, specially if it's a community "family friendly". For League of Legends players; You know right? There are kids there, but you don't think twice while playing it that there may be a child in your same team or enemy team. And don't talk about ToS, to lie in a Porn Webpage is an easy as to click a button. You're a robot?, no. You're +18 years old? Yes
What?, you need to prove your identity to play this game with a real name and number?; No bro, that's illegal and is against your privacity, you can't control the internet like that and be transparent. Even supposing that the internet is that controlled and it becomes a reality, you can't prevent your child from taking your wallet and put your data just to play a game.
Yah', kids are "stupid" and immature but they can be smart too. Ask other people how smart they were when children if you don't buy the idea.

Let's be honest, to be a child(-13) and protect them sucks. Even being a 17 years old sucks, you're not "old" enough nor young enough.
Is very hard to make a system on internet to protect ourselves as adults and also prevent children from engaging with freaks.... Even other children that are freaks too.
My head hurts thinking on this. :)
Everything about this is fucked.
 

Muskrat

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Since this is supposed to be a YanSim clone thread, too, here's some news:
Sara's School Life now has a test build.
Did a little bit of gameplay. The game is in a beta state, so you literally can't do anything except for a few core mechanics like raising sanity, killing students/teachers, equipping weapons, etc. The game for me gets a consistent 144 FPS at 1440p at max settings.


 
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CrippleFucker69

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Did a little bit of gameplay. The game is in a beta state, so you literally can't do anything except for a few core mechanics like raising sanity, killing students/teachers, equipping weapons, etc. The game for me gets a consistent 144 FPS at 1440p at max settings.
Hahahahaha, did they literally fucking use the Valve pan noise for their pans?
 

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Did a little bit of gameplay. The game is in a beta state, so you literally can't do anything except for a few core mechanics like raising sanity, killing students/teachers, equipping weapons, etc. The game for me gets a consistent 144 FPS at 1440p at max settings.
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This feels like a pre-alpha. Most of the animations are stilted. The ost feels like it is just filled with placeholder tracks. The AI looks rather basic. Sound effects still need work, etc...

That disarm animation is sick though.