Not that I believe that he didn't it all of it.
This man used to be 400 pounds. His stomach can take it.
He's a fucking liar.
Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial chicks
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Not that I believe that he didn't it all of it.
This man used to be 400 pounds. His stomach can take it.
He's a fucking liar.
klickitat
PhD in Wernology.
Nothing screams, "I'M SUCCESSFUL!" like filming in a public bathroom at 6:40 in the evening.
I'm going to be a responsible adult and get to bed before midnight and I'm sure our favorite hobo princess will put more shit out tonight so I may wait until tomorrow evening to compile what will likely be more smug idiocy that'll be churned out between me going to bed and tomorrow evening.
I think what I enjoy most about this chapter is that he still clearly doesn't know how to plan ahead; he keeps getting more food than he can eat then gives other hobos the scraps, thinking that makes him look good, and you know damn well that $50 is already burning a hole in his pocket.
Tubby has a payee for a reason: He can't manage money without an actual adult involved. Every time he has money, whether it's the scraps of his own SSDI that he gets or money some moron gave him because they're under the impression he's not cut a government check on the regular, he blows it all within 3-5 days then panics.
He also keeps talking about how little effort he puts into it, which is totally going to make more people want to pay him $50. I wonder if he realizes that people can stop payments or request refunds either just because they were dicking with him to begin with or if they aren't satisfied with his "work".
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I thought these questions merited a response, we are fast approaching 1200 pages and I can certainly sympathize with someone looking for a current rundown on our boy.
What exactly Lucas Werner is we don’t have a name for outside the metaphorical implication of “Cow” that we like to employ here at the farms in addition to the more immediate sense of Lucas’ obesity, his lethal diet, and atrocious eating habits that will make you ill. Frankly he is an amalgamation of so many different vices, flaws, and characteristics, that an entire field Wernology has sprung up around him across multiple platforms and communities. The scholarship of Wernology is broadly divided into two related and dependent subfields. The first subfield is devoted to the observation of Lucas in the wild, faithfully describing his words, appearances, and actions, and ultimately archiving and curating Lucas material for broader consumption. The second subfield is largely dedicated to more speculative work, developing theories of mind that can accurately predict Lucas’ erratic behavior and explain the many inexplicable things he does just interfacing with the world around him.
Everyone agrees that Lucas is a profoundly disturbed individual, but the nature of that disturbance is up for debate and unless health records or some high quality deep insider information is somehow leaked to us, there doesn’t appear to be any resolution. Mental illness is another given and the two most popular diagnoses are Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia; Lucas claims to receive disability from the Social Security Administration for Bipolar and has mentioned that he was suspected of having Schizophrenia in the past, but denies having it. It is common for people suffering from Bipolar Disorder to initially be suspected of having Schizophrenia because a manic person often presents as being in a psychosis in ways that look very much like untreated Schizophrenia. In any case, both conditions can be quite debilitating and can easily qualify for formal disability benefits.
Everyone agrees that Lucas has a disordered personality and there seems to be a general agreement that Narcissistic Personality Disorder is in play, but cases could be made for Borderline Personality Disorder, if not outright Psychopathy. Just in case I should mention that personality disorders are distinct from mental disorders, the latter of which is easily linked to certain physical brain states that are temporary and can be controlled with pharmaceutical and non-pharmaceutical interventions. Having a disordered personality is much harder to treat because unlike being closely linked to discrete brain chemistry, your personality is more fundamental to your character and identity than your emotions or cognition. Getting labeled as someone with a disordered personality can actually be a huge setback for a person, because their behavior is notoriously difficult to treat and they are absolutely the worst kind of people to be around and care for.
Labels aside the most important aspect of Lucas having a disordered personality is his incredible shallowness. There isn’t much going on behind those eyeballs and fat face, just absolute poverty in terms of personality and character. Lucas doesn’t have a sense of his own humanity, just his base desires that totally fuel his behavior in a mechanical fashion. Lucas baffles people when he starts talking about other people’s behavior and their motivations simply because he doesn’t understand any other kind of person other than himself. He can’t put himself in another person’s shoes or imagine someone feeling emotions or having thoughts he doesn’t have. Genuine empathy and sympathy are things that are mysterious to Lucas and he only knows them in simplistic and abstract terms which he tries to act out in absurd ways. For example, there was a period where Lucas wanted to demonstrate that he was a “generous” person and so when binge eating Taco Bell he’d buy extra and then find a public place to leave the food with a note indicating it was free to anyone who wanted it. To most people this is absolutely stupid, only people on the brink of utter starvation are going to interested in eating cold fast food left out in public by God knows who, but to Lucas this was simply the milk of human kindness and rock solid evidence for his insistence that he is a caring individual.
Finally there is speculation that the strange and repugnant behavior that Lucas displays could also have other contributing factors such as Lucas being somewhere on the spectrum of autism. Others, like me, think that Lucas has a mild to nearly moderate intellectual disability. Lucas was once offered a test for autism but refused and has expressed little interest in exploring that. Lucas and members of his family have described Lucas’ life as a student, where he struggled academically and socially.
Everyone agrees that Lucas has a disordered personality and there seems to be a general agreement that Narcissistic Personality Disorder is in play, but cases could be made for Borderline Personality Disorder, if not outright Psychopathy. Just in case I should mention that personality disorders are distinct from mental disorders, the latter of which is easily linked to certain physical brain states that are temporary and can be controlled with pharmaceutical and non-pharmaceutical interventions. Having a disordered personality is much harder to treat because unlike being closely linked to discrete brain chemistry, your personality is more fundamental to your character and identity than your emotions or cognition. Getting labeled as someone with a disordered personality can actually be a huge setback for a person, because their behavior is notoriously difficult to treat and they are absolutely the worst kind of people to be around and care for.
Labels aside the most important aspect of Lucas having a disordered personality is his incredible shallowness. There isn’t much going on behind those eyeballs and fat face, just absolute poverty in terms of personality and character. Lucas doesn’t have a sense of his own humanity, just his base desires that totally fuel his behavior in a mechanical fashion. Lucas baffles people when he starts talking about other people’s behavior and their motivations simply because he doesn’t understand any other kind of person other than himself. He can’t put himself in another person’s shoes or imagine someone feeling emotions or having thoughts he doesn’t have. Genuine empathy and sympathy are things that are mysterious to Lucas and he only knows them in simplistic and abstract terms which he tries to act out in absurd ways. For example, there was a period where Lucas wanted to demonstrate that he was a “generous” person and so when binge eating Taco Bell he’d buy extra and then find a public place to leave the food with a note indicating it was free to anyone who wanted it. To most people this is absolutely stupid, only people on the brink of utter starvation are going to interested in eating cold fast food left out in public by God knows who, but to Lucas this was simply the milk of human kindness and rock solid evidence for his insistence that he is a caring individual.
Finally there is speculation that the strange and repugnant behavior that Lucas displays could also have other contributing factors such as Lucas being somewhere on the spectrum of autism. Others, like me, think that Lucas has a mild to nearly moderate intellectual disability. Lucas was once offered a test for autism but refused and has expressed little interest in exploring that. Lucas and members of his family have described Lucas’ life as a student, where he struggled academically and socially.
Lucas is very celibate and this is indeed involuntary, but does he belong to that infamous community? He certainly shares characteristics with the usual talking points from incels, but the substance and verbiage of Lucas makes him distinct. Like every incel who actively posts somewhere online, Lucas is a seething mass of sexual frustration and unrealized dreams of romantic love. Yet Lucas lacks any sort of display of self loathing, he doesn’t dwell at all on his physical appearance, and doesn’t blame the genetic lottery for his current condition. Lucas also doesn’t break society down into terms like “Alpha” and “Beta” males, doesn’t use the “Chad” and “Stacy” terminology, and seems more or less oblivious to imageboard culture where contemporary incels originated.
Yet Lucas does share some important characteristics with modern Inceldom. Smoldering rage in response to a non-existant or lackluster love life is probably the biggest. Lucas isn’t a virgin and did actually have an exclusive and voluntary relationship with an adult woman who happened to be older than him, but the relationship ended messily with Lucas getting slammed with a Domestic Violence conviction. Lucas has a certain comfort with violence and it can play a role when he fantasizes about sexual conquests or gaining revenge against those who have done him wrong.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Lucas is fucking retarded and is as dumb as he is fat. That said Lucas does possess a strong baseline for cunning behavior and he shows restraint when in the presence of adult men or other people with authority. Lucas will frequent places teenage females can be found and observe them from afar, yet the longer he lingers around young flesh the greater the chance he’ll attempt some kind of behavior that pushes social boundaries. Lucas has been banned from coffee shops, bars, parks, and even homeless shelters because of his behavior.
Misogyny plays a large role in Lucas’ antics, though he’ll claim the title of feminist. Lucas primarily speaks of women as sexual chattel with no meaningful agency, but unlike many incels Lucas hesitates often to lay the blame on women themselves for not succumbing to his sexual desires and instead tries to lay the blame at the feet of various other groups such as jealous young men, Republicans, Christians, other men of his generation or older “stealing” his “research” and using it to great effect. Other times he likes to blame social maladies such as general bigotry, classism, or agephobia, for creating an environment where women are encouraged to ignore him.
The important thing to realize here is that Lucas generally thinks that if young women were left to their own devices they would find Lucas not only attractive, but also witty and charming. Lucas cannot meaningfully conceive of a young woman who wouldn’t find him attractive at all and that if nature was somehow in control then he’d be breeding nubile teens for the rest of his days.
Much like Elliot Rodger Lucas Werner has the capacity for violence, consistently engages in escalating unacceptable behavior (Elliot started down his path of murder-suicide by throwing coffee and young couples in public places). Both men also share an overwhelming tendency for delusions of grandeur; Lucas loves to speculate that he is descended from royalty, that he will one day be wealthy due to inheritance, and that he belongs to some kind of elite class of enlightened human beings that are destined to shape the world. Elliot had similar views about himself though he was a bit more modest.
So to answer the question: Lucas is a sexual predator who represents a danger to women and he shares many characteristics with the most dangerous and unstable of infamous Incels, he doesn’t share in or otherwise participate in broader incel culture. He would reject any such comparison and would consider incels to be trumpanzee losers not worthy of his time.
Yet Lucas does share some important characteristics with modern Inceldom. Smoldering rage in response to a non-existant or lackluster love life is probably the biggest. Lucas isn’t a virgin and did actually have an exclusive and voluntary relationship with an adult woman who happened to be older than him, but the relationship ended messily with Lucas getting slammed with a Domestic Violence conviction. Lucas has a certain comfort with violence and it can play a role when he fantasizes about sexual conquests or gaining revenge against those who have done him wrong.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Lucas is fucking retarded and is as dumb as he is fat. That said Lucas does possess a strong baseline for cunning behavior and he shows restraint when in the presence of adult men or other people with authority. Lucas will frequent places teenage females can be found and observe them from afar, yet the longer he lingers around young flesh the greater the chance he’ll attempt some kind of behavior that pushes social boundaries. Lucas has been banned from coffee shops, bars, parks, and even homeless shelters because of his behavior.
Misogyny plays a large role in Lucas’ antics, though he’ll claim the title of feminist. Lucas primarily speaks of women as sexual chattel with no meaningful agency, but unlike many incels Lucas hesitates often to lay the blame on women themselves for not succumbing to his sexual desires and instead tries to lay the blame at the feet of various other groups such as jealous young men, Republicans, Christians, other men of his generation or older “stealing” his “research” and using it to great effect. Other times he likes to blame social maladies such as general bigotry, classism, or agephobia, for creating an environment where women are encouraged to ignore him.
The important thing to realize here is that Lucas generally thinks that if young women were left to their own devices they would find Lucas not only attractive, but also witty and charming. Lucas cannot meaningfully conceive of a young woman who wouldn’t find him attractive at all and that if nature was somehow in control then he’d be breeding nubile teens for the rest of his days.
Much like Elliot Rodger Lucas Werner has the capacity for violence, consistently engages in escalating unacceptable behavior (Elliot started down his path of murder-suicide by throwing coffee and young couples in public places). Both men also share an overwhelming tendency for delusions of grandeur; Lucas loves to speculate that he is descended from royalty, that he will one day be wealthy due to inheritance, and that he belongs to some kind of elite class of enlightened human beings that are destined to shape the world. Elliot had similar views about himself though he was a bit more modest.
So to answer the question: Lucas is a sexual predator who represents a danger to women and he shares many characteristics with the most dangerous and unstable of infamous Incels, he doesn’t share in or otherwise participate in broader incel culture. He would reject any such comparison and would consider incels to be trumpanzee losers not worthy of his time.
As you have learned Lucas is both an incredibly shallow person and also painfully stupid. Lucas has a primal drive to seek the company of other people and to somehow relate to them, but he is forever stuck trying to relate to an alien culture he doesn’t understand because his own humanity is nearly non-existent.Thusly Lucas seeks out communities frequented by young women and then tries to join those communities to gain sexual access to teenagers. The result is that Lucas will adopt customs and mannerisms as a gateway to social interaction and once obtained will then try to crudely manipulate a female into a position where sex is expected or perceived as being “owed” to him. This often takes the form of bartering food, drugs, shelter, etc for sexual favors or by his own admission, he’ll try to blackmail or exhort sex from people if he thinks he has actionable knowledge on criminal behavior. Lucas actually lost a coveted subsidized housing situation by threatening drug addicts with exposure unless women were obtained for him.
Like so much Matthew Mcconaughey in ‘Dazed and Confused’ Lucas continues to get older while his victim population stays the same age. Back when Millennials were the “18-24” age group, Lucas was doing his shtick in the Skeptic and Atheist community back during the earliest decades of the 21st century. I was active in that community and this is when he came on to my radar, because he had a growing reputation for the kind of batshit behavior that earned him this thread. During this period Lucas picked up the habit of venerating the scientific method and claiming intellectual allegiance to always and only following “evidence”. It was here I think that Lucas really came into his intellectual pretensions and the delusion that he is highly intelligent.
However as skepticism and atheism passed as a cultural blip and Millennials aged out of the 18-24 bracket, replaced by Generation Z. Lucas then drifted into social justice activist culture (as did many other male sex pests catalogued in this august forum) and adorned himself with the trappings of young radicals. Here Lucas picked up his moral pretensions and adopted the accusatory language of “intersectionality” which ultimately gave him the gift of “age phobia” and “classism” which is now part of his daily vocabulary.
To be sure the disciplines of philosophy, science, and economics are entirely unknown to him. They are merely repositories for buzzwords that he can liberally borrow from to pass as an actual human being in our world. Lucas uses lexical cues like “Black Lives Matter” the same way a fly fisherman uses brightly colored metals in his lures to attract fish, to get young women to interact with him in the hopes of getting them on the hook for sex. Lucas doesn’t care about anyone else or anything else, just fulfilling his desires.
Like so much Matthew Mcconaughey in ‘Dazed and Confused’ Lucas continues to get older while his victim population stays the same age. Back when Millennials were the “18-24” age group, Lucas was doing his shtick in the Skeptic and Atheist community back during the earliest decades of the 21st century. I was active in that community and this is when he came on to my radar, because he had a growing reputation for the kind of batshit behavior that earned him this thread. During this period Lucas picked up the habit of venerating the scientific method and claiming intellectual allegiance to always and only following “evidence”. It was here I think that Lucas really came into his intellectual pretensions and the delusion that he is highly intelligent.
However as skepticism and atheism passed as a cultural blip and Millennials aged out of the 18-24 bracket, replaced by Generation Z. Lucas then drifted into social justice activist culture (as did many other male sex pests catalogued in this august forum) and adorned himself with the trappings of young radicals. Here Lucas picked up his moral pretensions and adopted the accusatory language of “intersectionality” which ultimately gave him the gift of “age phobia” and “classism” which is now part of his daily vocabulary.
To be sure the disciplines of philosophy, science, and economics are entirely unknown to him. They are merely repositories for buzzwords that he can liberally borrow from to pass as an actual human being in our world. Lucas uses lexical cues like “Black Lives Matter” the same way a fly fisherman uses brightly colored metals in his lures to attract fish, to get young women to interact with him in the hopes of getting them on the hook for sex. Lucas doesn’t care about anyone else or anything else, just fulfilling his desires.
In the final analysis Lucas wants teenage flesh, he constantly references the 18-24 age range only as a learned behavior. He has expressed worrying sexual interest in children as young as 12 and college freshmen seem to be the upper boundary of what he deems acceptable. He feels that young women the world over would be surrendering their mind, body, and souls to him were it not for a greedy society goading them into agephobia and classism. He consistently engages in gross and calculated manipulation to obtain what he wants from people and will not hesitate to do this to young women if given the chance. He is dysfunctional on every level of human consciousness and unconsciousness and cannot get along with anyone for long unless they are strictly enabling him.
He wants you @CrazyAsHell to find a female teenager and give him her contact information because as he sees it, it is already a foregone conclusion that she'll fuck his brains out and mother his children, why wouldn't she? Lucas is a great person to be around! You, as do the rest of us, bear the collective responsibility of undoing the evils of agephobia and classism by offering up the fertile wombs of young women. Research into telemores and scientific study vaginal intercourse between 50 year old men and 16 year old children will unlock the secrets of healthier babies, rises in aggregate IQ scores in the general population, the need for corrective lenses dissipating, and finally give rise of the Homo-superior over the Homo-sapiens!
His obsession with food is on another level.
I think the only thing saving him from being a candidate for My 600 Pound Life, is that he's too poor to constantly eat, and that he has to walk everywhere. He also has no enabler who's by his side 24/7 to keep bringing him food.
I can easily imagine another timeline where Lucas never left home, and his mom fattened him up to being super super obese.
My bet's on "about as long as every other flounce has lasted" - boy can't live without the views!
With any luck he's turned his PC off and cracked a window.
Pure fucking gold.
As a side note based on the insane bollocks WonderWino quoted from Saint Luke of the Hobos: I'm someone who likes to drink and to sleep through the next day. If his squad of medics started waking me up bang on twelve hours every Saturday I'd come for him with a chainsaw. Little bastard. Can't even start on his insane plan to force everyone to sit on their phones for an hour "to make sure they're still alive"
Bingo! Remember back in high school, there was a guy, maybe a group of guys, who were 20-21 years old but frequented the high school parties and hangouts after school? They would supply the booze/weed/porn/fake IDs, whatever you needed. They were loved and admired by all.
Looking back, we now know these guys were not cool, but pathetic. They were doing what they did in order to score with high school girls (and they did...12 at a time!
).Point is....Lucas sees himself as those guys. And he thinks he's cool. But we know the truth.
Gracie's Ghost
Bish put me in the grockbot
Just think of the many videos he'd gift us, mooing about how no one's fucking him because we're greedy, FATphobic bigots. It'd be a whole other territory.
Fanatical Pragmatist
NegRate me = You're a Chad with a big dick
Lucas doesn't use terms like "Alpha" and "Chad", but he basically uses Flatbill as a synonym.
Same applies for "Stacey" and Ovulator.
Free the Pedos
What the fuck's a washing machine doing in a pub?
Usually by the time you get to be those guys' age, you realize they were hanging out with kids because no one else could stand them. Lucas hasn't figured this out yet. He thinks being a 41 year old in college makes him a hip cat with a finger on the pulse of the youth culture, instead of someone 20 years behind in life.Bingo! Remember back in high school, there was a guy, maybe a group of guys, who were 20-21 years old but frequented the high school parties and hangouts after school? They would supply the booze/weed/porn/fake IDs, whatever you needed. They were loved and admired by all.
Looking back, we now know these guys were not cool, but pathetic. They were doing what they did in order to score with high school girls (and they did...12 at a time!
Point is....Lucas sees himself as those guys. And he thinks he's cool. But we know the truth.
This thread in one year has blown up into such uncontrolled spergatory that I can't even imagine where we'll be this time next year. Where's your votes at,
-Will Lucas be dead by this time next year?
-Will he finally snap and commit a violent sex crime?
-Will this thread get completely taken over by the "long time lurker here" newfags until it's not even about wernology anymore and just a bunch of off topic conversations about Brit slang and asking for Wern lore in bite size chunks instead of reading through the thread?
-Will Lucas be dead by this time next year?
-Will he finally snap and commit a violent sex crime?
-Will this thread get completely taken over by the "long time lurker here" newfags until it's not even about wernology anymore and just a bunch of off topic conversations about Brit slang and asking for Wern lore in bite size chunks instead of reading through the thread?
Bingo! Remember back in high school, there was a guy, maybe a group of guys, who were 20-21 years old but frequented the high school parties and hangouts after school? They would supply the booze/weed/porn/fake IDs, whatever you needed. They were loved and admired by all.
Looking back, we now know these guys were not cool, but pathetic. They were doing what they did in order to score with high school girls (and they did...12 at a time!
Point is....Lucas sees himself as those guys. And he thinks he's cool. But we know the truth.
And Lucas doesn't even have the good looks of Matthew McConaughey to at least give a smidge of credibility to the idea of him being popular at a party of teenagers.
klickitat
PhD in Wernology.
He's so popular that Isaac's 17 year old brother, by Lucas' own admission, slaps him pretty routinely and calls him a pedo and Isaac is always making fun of him, taking down his creepy attraction signs, and berating him when he's not asking for free weed, booze, and food that Lucas happily provides.
At this point, I legit think Lucas has both a public humiliation kink and enjoys being slapped around and berated specifically by young men. It happens so regularly and often AND he seems to purposely put himself in positions for that to happen that it's just not possible, at this point, that that's not how he gets off.
I don't know if those two things are better or worse than fixating on teenaged girls.
Well, he at one time was porta- potty Lucas, now he's gone up in the world to public restroom Lucas
I FORGOT ABOUT PORTA POTTY LUCAS! now I remember someone taped him yelling in the porta potty and that was fucking gold
Jeremiah the Bullfrog
My bigotry is out of hand
If he had an ounce of common sense, he’d invest that $50 in some proper winter gear. Gloves, Hat, a warm bedroll. He’s completely ill equipped to survive outdoors.
Instead, he’ll blow it at the fanciest restaurant that will overlook his disheveled appearance and offensive body odor in order to sell him a plate.
Maybe he's just been used by people for so long he doesn't know any other way of relating. He thinks that's just what friendship is.
Fanatical Pragmatist
NegRate me = You're a Chad with a big dick
I swear there has been an uptick in those posts within the last week or so. At least two of which doxxed their Youtube accounts on their very first Kiwifarms post.
>"Longtime lurker here!"
>*immediately doxes self*
>longtime lurkers indeed
Nah, I think Lucas is just a loser with no friends, so despite the "give me woman or else u no my frien!" rants, he really has to take what he can get.
If a stoner hobo and his younger brother are the only people willing to hangout with Lucas Werner (for food & weed), then those just happen to be the people Lucas hangs around. I dont think he intentionally goes and seeks out guys who punch him and call him names.
Rescuetoast
thrillho
Because people saw Goldy doing podcasts and shit and immediately wanted a piece of that pie for... some reason? Of course they doxxed themselves. They want the traffic.
Looked up Northtown Mall. It's a ways north from his usual hunting ground. He made it all the way to the Mall without keeling over dead from the cold and snow.
klickitat
PhD in Wernology.
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It is.
The only in person human interaction he gets is nearly always hostile; someone hitting him, insulting him, 'teasing' him in a way that, even if they were longtime friends, would still be mean-spirited and done in bad faith, mocking him, stealing his shit (like his phone, weed, possessions in his shitty little backpack, etc...) and openly using him to get free food, weed, and alcohol.
I know that because I've had looooong conversations with him about it on one of my burners, and any time I point out that that behavior isn't the type of behavior someone who actually enjoys your company or you as a person displays he just falls back to "hahaha no they're really my friends, they're just ribbing me! It's banter! It's horsing around!"
I would be very, very surprised if he's ever had someone who was a friend past the point that he was useful to them and I'd be willing to bet he views women as something that can be 'given' or traded or bartered for has some basis in the fact that he's never had friendships or relationships with other people that weren't purely transactional.
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