War Major US military deployment to Middle East - State Department hints Iran planned to attack US Embassy in Oman

Poiseon

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I don't see this going smoothly if Iran actually opens fire, which I doubt. Say they do though. It could start another Iraq style war and another shit load of innocent lives lost. Hopefully if the oil embargo goes through that will be sufficient.
 

thx1138

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The only shooting I want to come out of this is for the USN to blow every single fucking Iranian F14 out of the sky. Blast them into metal confetti.

If we can't have neato Veritech fighters any more, neither can they god dammit.
 

KiwiLedian

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The Iranian government would be dumb to start a shooting war with the US. They can't hit us outside bases and embassy's in the region but we can hit them right where it hurts and knock out the one reason they stay relevant (oil) with ease. Their air force is a joke these days and they rely mostly on AAM which all can be taken out in first strikes if need be.
They can burn our flag over and over all they want and threaten death to our country but when it comes time to put up, they'll piss themselves and run away because we're not the one's with something they can easily lose.
 

nonperson

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Let me tell you exactly how this will play out:

Step 1 - The US starts bombing Iran.
Step 2 - Iran conquers Europe by sending 50 million refugees which then just take over.
Step 3 - London is renamed New Tehran, Britain becomes the central district of the new Islamic Caliphate.
Step 4 - The EU is officially renamed the "Islamic Union". Hungary and Poland are promptly expelled and pacified by force.
Step 5 - The US marches into Tehran largely unoposed and declares victory over Iran.
 

Kommie

We were the great ghosts
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Let me tell you exactly how this will play out:

Step 1 - The US starts bombing Iran.
Step 2 - Iran conquers Europe by sending 50 million refugees which then just take over.
Step 3 - London is renamed New Tehran, Britain becomes the central district of the new Islamic Caliphate.
Step 4 - The EU is officially renamed the "Islamic Union". Hungary and Poland are promptly expelled and pacified by force.
Step 5 - The US marches into Tehran largely unoposed and declares victory over Iran.
And nothing of value will be lost
 

ForTheHoard

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Not how it actually works. They can do that, if they are in deployment. Such an operations tempo however is bad for morale and the US military for all its size is not large enough to have blanket coverage everywhere. In this case Iran (it seems) decided to cause shenanigans during a period when no US carrier was present in the Persian Gulf. Which is why the Lincoln had to go to max speed and get to the area fast. It's an area of routine patrol, but not something we sit on with heavy assets 24/7, 365. And for a country like Iran you need way more then just one marine assault carrier and its escorts. That means grabbing shit from the mainland and moving it out fast.
Fast for the Navy is 2 weeks to the Suez. It isn't exactly fast, especially if they're trying to avoid anti-ship weaponry. We've already got operations in that general area of the world, and outside of a new major ground war, it seems unnecessary.
 

ICametoLurk

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- The Revolutionary Guards are too embedded and powerful for the regime to be toppled through more indirect means, as the US have tried to do through economic sanctions.

- Simply deterring Iran a bit through deploying a carrier group won't do anything to address the larger strategic problem of vast portions of Middle Eastern energy resources being under the control of Iran and other non-allied regimes (meaning they'll be readily accessible by China, which is the main issue).

- They exhausted their diplomatic options by voiding the nuclear agreement and humiliating the relatively 'moderate' and conciliatory regime of Rouhani to the benefit of Iranian hardliners.

Following these assumptions, and assuming that the overall US objective regarding Iran is to prevent it becoming a reliable supplier of energy resources to China (and secondly to safeguard the Strait of Hormuz to validate the US' status as policeman of the shipping lanes), what the US is left with is the military option. They either relinquish any plans of a US-friendly regime in Iran, or they assert their dominion militarily.
 

Marissa Moira

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The US being the sole protector of the international shipping lanes is very important. It's what gave us economic power and prevented countless conflicts from happening or being inflamed.

Prior to the Bretton Woods Agreement shipping by sea lead to a ton of skirmishes and wars. The trade routes were very unsafe and by having the US act as law enforcement over these routes gave us a ton of leverage and financial weight to throw around. It's the reason why the west recovered from world war 2 so quickly since supplies could go all around the world safely.

So yes it's of utmost importance that no shipping lanes get fucked with because if you give them an inch they will take a mile.

I don't think we'll get a war, I think at most iran will lose it's ability to fly planes, send out ships, or deliver raw materials. All of these can be done by missile strikes and not a land war.
 
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