March for Trump (1/6) - (1/5-1/6), 18 NAKED PROUD BOYS IN THE SHOWER AT RAM RANCH

Was this a terrorist incident?

  • Yes

    Votes: 508 24.7%
  • No

    Votes: 526 25.6%
  • There were bad people(terrorists) involved, but that shouldn't reflect on everybody else

    Votes: 254 12.4%
  • It was the state who created terror

    Votes: 767 37.3%

  • Total voters
    2,055

Rich Evans Apologist

And thanks for all the braps
True & Honest Fan
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At least in both cases, the media did a great job discrediting all the cope, such as Russian influence.
Liberal media ran with the Russia shit they couldn't support and relied on just echoing it until enough people believed it.
Conservative media is running with the fraud shit they couldn't support and is relying on just echoing it until enough people believe it.

Everyone's playing the game, because everyone knows the layman is too stupid to parse anything for themselves.
All you need is a good grift and a fun narrative and you've got a political campaign that practically runs itself!
One of the problems the US has is the fact that lot of industries are being propped op in some cases. Oil and gas is dying out and Green or rather renewable energy is the way forward, but to save already dying market is a waste of time.
Part of the issue is that green and renewable have interest in capital markets, but the tech is absolutely not there for us to just cut the cord on fossil fuels (and probably never will be). Cutting subsidies to that industry isn't the worst idea if a plan to do so is released and codified through congress to reflect shifting demands. The same is true of agriculture - American diets are changing. Our old food subsidies to shit that people don't eat... probably don't need to be there, dairy shit in particular gets way too much. You'll always need to keep some small amount, but it's better to gradually taper it off.
Money should be put into re-education for the effected and learn them to code, but i don't mean they are going to be web developers. PLC programing, automation and so on.
Put it into expanding training for more practical skills, like electrical work, plumbing, welding, carpentry, culinary, etc. You don't take a trucker and try to make them code; that shit just does not work and its track record is awful, no matter how basic you try to make the task.
 

NyQuilninja

drink me
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Also, pay attnetion to the shelf on the background with that gay heart-shaped plant...
On the right side, there's some anime-figurine holding down her skirt or something.

What the fuck is up with that guy. Wonder how this is going to pan out in the long run.
Wouldn't surprise me if we'd see a massive wave of posts on social media that all boil down to:
"I ratted out a family member to the feds and they threw me out of their house, I have no job, no home and no one to help me. What do I do?"

Wasn't there already a post by some girl who bitched about her mother not being able to pay her tuition, after she reporter her mother to the feds herself, who then lost her job?
Yeah it's odd this reeks of teen age angst. Fuck you dad I want to watch cartoons and marry my waifu not Storm the capital and defend cheeto Hitler
 

societyguy01

SPEED KETAMINE SHITPOSTING AUTISM
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It's sad to see all that has happened. Trump backstabbing his own supporters after he literally invited them over broke what credibility he had.
The funny thing is Bernie and Trump share more in common than you'd think. Both have been betrayed by the establishment so many times, you'd think they're in a contest to see who can get cucked to death first
 

Least Concern

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Money should be put into re-education for the effected and learn them to code, but i don't mean they are going to be web developers. PLC programing, automation and so on. It would all help the US get a stronger work force.
Holy shit, you literally did the “learn to code” thing.

As a coder myself, I could learn to play hockey, but I don’t really have an interest in it and am unlikely to have much talent, especially at my age.

I’m not a protectionist and think companies in dying industries should be allowed to fail, but “learn to code” is not a magic solution to helping those employees to find their next gig.

Edit: The quote got destroyed and I’m not gonna fix it because I’m mobilefagging.
 

The Last Stand

Be very, VERY gay.
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The funny thing is Bernie and Trump share more in common than you'd think. Both have been betrayed by the establishment so many times, you'd think they're in a contest to see who can get cucked to death first
Bernie is an "independent" now, but he still works for the DNC.

Trump is a pariah.

At least Bernie is still making money.
 

PaleTay

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So i know i use this as a shit thread.

But to break a bit away from my norm. One of the problems the US has is the fact that lot of industries are being propped op in some cases. Oil and gas is dying out and Green or rather renewable energy is the way forward, but to save already dying market is a waste of time. Money should be put into re-education for the effected and learn them to code, but i don't mean they are going to be web developers. PLC programing, automation and so on. It would all help the US get a stronger work force.

How ever the problem is that it is not sexy. It will take 3-5 years for the first few fruits to sprout from work like this. So there is low effort in both sides of the isle to do it.

It is easy to throw money at dying industries to say you saved jobs.
So you suggest people taking a pay cut to do a job they will probably hate, the driving down of wages and standards for competent people in said industry, and the end product being significantly worse so people with Greta's understanding of climate will get their way?

I don't want nature destroyed for shitty wind turbines either.
 

JosephStalin

Vozhd
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Yeah, I don't see a trial happening. President Trump wouldn't be convicted, anyway. If there had been a trial and a conviction suggest there may have been all sorts of trouble. Millions believe the election was stolen. Then for the person they voted for to be prohibited from running for President again could have sent the signal the ballot box is no longer the way to affect change. Simply the worst thing that could happen to the Biden regime, who's touting "unity".

Growing number of GOP senators oppose impeachment trial​

  • FILE - In this Jan. 6, 2021, file photo violent rioters, loyal to President Donald Trump, storm the Capitol in Washington. The words of Donald Trump supporters who are accused of participating in the deadly U.S. Capitol riot may end up being used against him in his Senate impeachment trial as he faces the charge of inciting a violent insurrection. (AP Photo/John Minchillo, File)
  • FILE - In this Jan. 6, 2021, file photo with the White House in the background, President Donald Trump speaks at a rally in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin, File)
  • Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., speaks during a confirmation hearing for President-elect Joe Biden’s pick for national intelligence director Avril Haines before the Senate intelligence committee on Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2021, in Washington. (Joe Raedle/Pool via AP)
  • Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., speaks during a confirmation hearing for Secretary of Defense nominee Lloyd Austin, a recently retired Army general, before the Senate Armed Services Committee on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2021, in Washington. (Greg Nash/Pool via AP)
  • Vice President Mike Pence administers the oath of office to Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D, during a reenactment ceremony in the Old Senate Chamber at the Capitol in Washington, Sunday, Jan. 3, 2021. (Samuel Corum/Pool via AP)
  • Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, questions Secretary of State nominee Antony Blinken during his confirmation hearing to be Secretary of State before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2021. (Graeme Jennings/Pool via AP)
  • Vice President Mike Pence administers the oath of office to Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., as his wife Annie Coons holds a Bible, during a reenactment ceremony in the Old Senate Chamber at the Capitol in Washington, Sunday, Jan. 3, 2021. (Kevin Dietsch/Pool via AP)
  • In this image from video, Rep. Madeleine Dean, D-Pa., speaks as the House debates the objection to confirm the Electoral College vote from Pennsylvania, at the U.S. Capitol early Thursday, Jan. 7, 2021. (House Television via AP)
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Trump Impeachment Rioters​

FILE - In this Jan. 6, 2021, file photo violent rioters, loyal to President Donald Trump, storm the Capitol in Washington. The words of Donald Trump supporters who are accused of participating in the deadly U.S. Capitol riot may end up being used against him in his Senate impeachment trial as he faces the charge of inciting a violent insurrection. (AP Photo/John Minchillo, File)

MARY CLARE JALONICK and LISA MASCARO
Sun, January 24, 2021, 11:58 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) — A growing number of Republican senators say they oppose holding an impeachment trial, a sign of the dimming chances that former President Donald Trump will be convicted on the charge that he incited a siege of the U.S. Capitol.

House Democrats, who will walk the impeachment charge of “incitement of insurrection” to the Senate on Monday evening, are hoping that strong Republican denunciations of Trump after the Jan. 6 riot will translate into a conviction and a separate vote to bar Trump from holding office again. But GOP passions appear to have cooled since the insurrection, and now that Trump's presidency is over, Republican senators who will serve as jurors in the trial are rallying to his legal defense, as they did during his first impeachment trial last year.

“I think the trial is stupid, I think it’s counterproductive,” said Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla.. He said that "the first chance I get to vote to end this trial, I’ll do it” because he believes it would be bad for the country and further inflame partisan divisions.

Arguments in the Senate trial will begin the week of Feb. 8. Leaders in both parties agreed to the short delay to give Trump's team and House prosecutors time to prepare and the Senate the chance to confirm some of President Joe Biden’s Cabinet nominees. Democrats say the extra days will allow for more evidence to come out about the rioting by Trump supporters who interrupted the congressional electoral count of Biden's election victory, while Republicans hope to craft a unified defense for Trump.

An early vote to dismiss the trial probably would not succeed, given that Democrats now control the Senate. Still, the Republican opposition indicates that many GOP senators would eventually vote to acquit Trump. Democrats would need the support of 17 Republicans — a high bar — to convict him.

When the House impeached Trump on Jan. 13, exactly one week after the siege, Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said he didn’t believe the Senate had the constitutional authority to convict Trump after he had left office. On Sunday, Cotton said “the more I talk to other Republican senators, the more they’re beginning to line up” behind that argument.

“I think a lot of Americans are going to think it’s strange that the Senate is spending its time trying to convict and remove from office a man who left office a week ago,” Cotton said.

Democrats reject that argument, pointing to a 1876 impeachment of a secretary of war who had already resigned and to opinions by many legal scholars. Democrats also say that a reckoning of the first invasion of the Capitol since the War of 1812, perpetrated by rioters egged on by a president who told them to “fight like hell” against election results that were being counted at the time, is necessary so the country can move forward and ensure such a siege never happens again. (Yo, Dems. It WILL happen again. Congress has lost the trust of the people. Hurt being cucked, didn't it, bitches. - JS)

A few GOP senators have agreed with Democrats, though not close to the number that will be needed to convict Trump.
Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, said he believes there is a “preponderance of opinion” that an impeachment trial is appropriate after someone leaves office.

“I believe that what is being alleged and what we saw, which is incitement to insurrection, is an impeachable offense,” Romney said. “If not, what is?”

But Romney, the lone Republican to vote to convict Trump when the Senate acquitted the then-president in last year’s trial, appears to be an outlier. (Mitt, eat shit. - JS)

Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D., said he believes a trial is a “moot point” after a president's term is over, “and I think it’s one that they would have a very difficult time in trying to get done within the Senate.”

And Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, had tweeted on Saturday: “If it is a good idea to impeach and try former Presidents, what about former Democratic Presidents when Republicans get the majority in 2022? Think about it and let’s do what is best for the country.”

On Friday, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a close Trump ally who has been helping him build a legal team, urged the Senate to reject the idea of a post-presidency trial — potentially with a vote to dismiss the charge — and suggested Republicans will scrutinize whether Trump’s words on Jan. 6 were legally “incitement.”

Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., said Democrats were sending a message that “hatred and vitriol of Donald Trump is so strong” that they will hold a trial that stops Biden's policy priorities from moving. Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., suggested Democrats are choosing “vindictiveness” over national security as the new president tries to set up his administration.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, who said last week that Trump “provoked” his supporters before the riot, has not said how he will vote or argued any legal strategies. The Kentucky senator has told his GOP colleagues that it will be a vote of conscience.

One of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s nine impeachment managers said Trump’s encouragement of his loyalists before the riot was "an extraordinarily heinous presidential crime." (Nancy Pelosi's existence is a crime against nature. - JS)

“I think you will see that we will put together a case that is so compelling because the facts and the law reveal what this president did,” said Rep. Madeleine Dean, D-Pa. "I mean, think back. It was just two-and-a-half weeks ago that the president assembled a mob on the Ellipse of the White House. He incited them with his words. And then he lit the match.”

Trump’s supporters invaded the Capitol and interrupted the electoral count as he falsely claimed there was massive fraud in the election and that it was stolen by Biden. Trump’s claims were roundly rejected in the courts, including by judges appointed by Trump, and by state election officials.

Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., said in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday that he hopes that evolving clarity on the details of what happened Jan. 6 “will make it clearer to my colleagues and the American people that we need some accountability.”

Coons questioned how his colleagues who were in the Capitol that day could see the insurrection as anything other than a “stunning violation” of the centuries-old tradition of peaceful transfers of power.
“It is a critical moment in American history and we have to look at it and look at it hard,” Coons said.

Rubio and Romney were on “Fox News Sunday,” Cotton appeared on Fox News Channel's “Sunday Morning Futures” and Romney also was on CNN's “State of the Union,” as was Dean. Rounds was interviewed on NBC's “Meet the Press.”


 

Shitassdeaddude

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Yes people actually thought a bunch of cops letting in children to tantrum and vandalize so their totalitarianism would play well in the news = American Revolution

Whatever Biden does, remember they were basically given carte blanche for at least a year because of this. Awesome Show, Great Job!
Yep. It's almost like running into the building and flapping your arms around like a bunch of autists makes you look bad or something.
 

RandomTwitterGuy

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So you suggest people taking a pay cut to do a job they will probably hate, the driving down of wages and standards for competent people in said industry, and the end product being significantly worse so people with Greta's understanding of climate will get their way?

I don't want nature destroyed for shitty wind turbines either.

Are you having a stroke??.
Now i know you boomers don't know what technology is, but what did i suggest they work with?? Where the fuck did you get wind turbines.

Renewable and clean energy is not only wind turbines. It is a complete change and overhaul of how we store and transfer energy around the country to better improve efficiency. So we can take advantage of Hydro electric, Nuclear, Solar, Wind or what weird shit some one comes op with. That shit is pure money!.

How ever that is not what i was talking about. I was actually referencing the need for more people as automation becomes a bigger thing. So instead of propping op dying businesses we should create a better option for lower skilled workers to get the few things they need so they can be hired for solid paying jobs.

I don't need a guy to run a machine, i need some one who can watch over a 100 machines and do basic maintenance and work so we can keep the 99.999 uptime.

Also the only people who give a shit about Greta is weird right-wingers and Swedes.
 

Least Concern

Pretend I have a vtuber avatar like everyone else
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Renewable and clean energy is not only wind turbines. It is a complete change and overhaul of how we store and transfer energy around the country to better improve efficiency. So we can take advantage of Hydro electric, Nuclear, Solar, Wind or what weird shit some one comes op with. That shit is pure money!.
If it were actually possible to build dams or nuke plants without environmentalists flipping out, this would be a feasible idea. The greenies are the biggest opponents to their own supposed goals.
 

Particle Bored

I am made out of toothpicks and glue.
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Renewable and clean energy is not only wind turbines. It is a complete change and overhaul of how we store and transfer energy around the country to better improve efficiency. So we can take advantage of Hydro electric, Nuclear, Solar, Wind or what weird shit some one comes op with. That shit is pure money!
No joke.
 

PaleTay

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Are you having a stroke??.
Now i know you boomers don't know what technology is, but what did i suggest they work with?? Where the fuck did you get wind turbines.

Renewable and clean energy is not only wind turbines. It is a complete change and overhaul of how we store and transfer energy around the country to better improve efficiency. So we can take advantage of Hydro electric, Nuclear, Solar, Wind or what weird shit some one comes op with. That shit is pure money!.

How ever that is not what i was talking about. I was actually referencing the need for more people as automation becomes a bigger thing. So instead of propping op dying businesses we should create a better option for lower skilled workers to get the few things they need so they can be hired for solid paying jobs.

I don't need a guy to run a machine, i need some one who can watch over a 100 machines and do basic maintenance and work so we can keep the 99.999 uptime.

Also the only people who give a shit about Greta is weird right-wingers and Swedes.
You suggested the green energy sector. Are you ESL?

Those aren't solid paying jobs, they legitimately lose to retail jobs and your proposal would make them worse. So now you want mechanical jobs instead of coding?

Green energy is almost never profitable beyond government actions. Even if we're taking the most optimistic route with most sectors, the last thing you want is unskilled workers playing a major role.
 

RandomTwitterGuy

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If it were actually possible to build dams or nuke plants without environmentalists flipping out, this would be a feasible idea. The greenies are the biggest opponents to their own supposed goals.

Soo? Then get it done by gathering support and do it in a feasible way. This is not a argument from a green position this is a argument from a capitalist's position.


OH my good this +9 year old article tells me that America is corrupt. I already knew that, that is nothing new. Most business i have worked for that operate in the American market throw money at politicians in the US to get better deals and a bunch of benefits. So yes America is corrupt. Wierd Flex, but okay.

You suggested the green energy sector. Are you ESL?

Those aren't solid paying jobs, they legitimately lose to retail jobs and your proposal would make them worse. So now you want mechanical jobs instead of coding?

Green energy is almost never profitable beyond government actions. Even if we're taking the most optimistic route with most sectors, the last thing you want is unskilled workers playing a major role.

You have never set foot in a factory in your life have you??. Or rather seen a modern production line. We pay well for these jobs because they need a diverse set of skills, but i will ask you this. What do you think the job entails??. Do you even know what a PLC is and why it is a bottle neck??.

There is two parts to renewable energy. The Profit part and the science part.
I will admit that only a handful of years ago things like wind turbines where not profitable and could not be profitable in a realistic time frame. How ever times change, production gets better, technicians get better and new technologies are working it's ways forward.

Why is it Americans have this weird binary in there head either every thing is green or every thing is oil?

I am talking about future proofing the country and investing for the future.
 

Least Concern

Pretend I have a vtuber avatar like everyone else
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Soo? Then get it done by gathering support and do it in a feasible way. This is not a argument from a green position this is a argument from a capitalist's position.
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), capitalists cannot just build a power plant wherever they want to build one. They need all sorts of government permits and other bullshit first. And despite justified cries of corporate cronyism in various levels of government, the hippies and NIMBY types still have enough power to stop nuke plants. Otherwise we'd have them all over the place.
 

RandomTwitterGuy

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Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), capitalists cannot just build a power plant wherever they want to build one. They need all sorts of government permits and other bullshit first. And despite justified cries of corporate cronyism in various levels of government, the hippies and NIMBY types still have enough power to stop nuke plants. Otherwise we'd have them all over the place.
That is true. That is why i would like to see more education and effort put into it. No politician is going to put there name on a nuclear power bill.
 

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