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Trainwreck Margaret / Margo Palermo, VenusAngelic's MomBatshit narcissist, homeless stalker, river Kappa

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  1. Venus had more than a few fetish-y videos when Margo was "managing" her. The ones where she eats all the food aren't so blatant, but still marketed towards the same "types". Don't think Venus even knew what was happening, poor thing
     
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  2. Sorry if this is :offtopic: but the video of that child is a perfect example of why small children shouldn't be able to post videos online. She spends more time making silly faces into the camera than she does actually talking about the video.
     
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  3. True, but posting them here seem to me to be aimed at making Venus look porn-y and creepy, yes? Actually the more I think about it the more it reeks of marge or a marge ally... yet another step in her ongoing smear campaign of almost a year now. "I heard VEENOOS is working as a hostess" "Manaki puts her in kiddy clothes and gets a hard one watching her eat" etc. etc...
     
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  4. I'm not some kind of sperglord iluminatti..

    I just wanted to point that Margo exploted her child to a pedophilic audience. How is that slandering Venus? She was 14-15 in those videos.
     
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  5. It's already been established that under Margo's direction, Venus put out a bunch of inappropriate fetishy videos (I'm pretty sure I mentioned it in the OP). If she looks creepy or porny, it's because that's what Margo wants. Margo was the one who chose the outfit for her, directed the videos, and decided the content.
    If Venus was putting out videos right now where she wore tall socks, panties, and transparent shirts, and sucked whipped cream off of her fingers, then it would reflect poorly on her. But these videos were made when she was still very much under Margo's thumb.
     
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  6. Yeah, that's already been established as someone else has pointed out. So what's the point of making an account today just to post those videos here, again? Oh yeah, that would be to play up that whole "VEENOOS does porn/is a little slut" narrative that her psycho mom has been pushing for the past year now.

    You ain't slick, sis.
     
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  7. I think that's the point...those who have closely followed Venus' story for a long time know how Margo exploited her in a sexual way(she probably even did worse stuff). The question is "Why did you post the "I hate Venus" videos while saying Margaret was to be hated for what she did. Why muddy the waters? It looked like a manipulative thing to try to do......"words not matching action" kind of thing.
     
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  8. If Venus really did worse stuff, that would be CP. I'm not sick enought to call her a "little slut"; I have said she isn't guilty of being exploted/sexually abused.

    Actually, i wanted to post them because it's the worse thing Margo has done; that is, knowinly marketing her own child as if she was a sexual object.

    I never said "I HATE VENUS!!!1!!11!" because i can't understand english dialogue, that's why i don't watch english-speaking youtubers. Venus is an abused child, but i think you are white knighting a little too hard.
     
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  9. May be off topic, but I don't think that Deranged is trying to make Venus look bad at all. Just providing some horrifying content that Margo forced Venus to make. I just don't think they're expressing their views well- text makes horrible explanations.

    As for the videos, I didn't even click on them. The thumbnails were disgusting enough. I wonder how Margo convinced her to do it? Did she know what was happening, or did she just follow along blindly?
     
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  10. FYI @Um... has been threadbanned for a couple days to let her calm down :oops:

    Not to continue this argument, but a lot of us haven't been watching Venus for 5+ years - there's a lot of stuff we've missed. Personally, I only got on the Venus/Margo train after venus ran away earlier this year, so I personally find it interesting when people share old videos, so that we can watch them knowing what we do now, in hindsight. I don't think that anybody here thinks that Venus can be held accountable for her actions as a teenager, under a psychically abusive mother.

    I certainly don't see Venus as some sort of slut, she's just a strange young woman trying to do the best she can to escape Margo.

    Margo's on the downlow at the moment anyway so it's not like we're missing any new content discussing old stuff. She's being super secretive at the moment which is unlike her. I wish we were getting more information about Margo's life - all we know now is that she's staying somewhere in Korea, and she went to stalk Venus on Dec 7th. I'd love to know what actually happened on that day

    lol I shared them with a few users here who aren't massively familiar with Venus and they said they felt very uncomfortable watching them. Venus was probably aware of the overt sexual nature of the videos she was making, but she probably didn't think it was unusual until she reached 18 and got away from Margo. Like in that runaway video from a year ago, where she said she didn't realise that parents beating their children wasn't normal until she got with Manaki :c

    Margo's attitude towards sexuality is weird and gross, that's got to mess up a kid somewhat. If you're encouraged to continue by your mother, the only real permanent position of authority in your life, you're not going to think that it's wrong. All things considered Venus came out great with such a sheltered life.
     
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    #2610 Melchett, Jan 1, 2017
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  11. Thanks for keeping an eye on the thread.

    I agree that the old content is relevant if it hasn't yet been posted; it's further evidence of just how abused Venus was, especially when she was younger. The live broadcasts aren't on her YT channel, and they contained the most questionable content. The YT videos themselves, Venus tended to script and edit - even with Margo looming behind camera and titling them off color things for SEO hits, they weren't nearly as unsettling as every live broadcast she ever did. Seeing how anxious V is to this day to go off script - her newer vlogs are interesting to see, but she's still uncomfortable being "live" - I can only imagine what it took for Margo to force her to perform in this way.
     
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  12. So, many hours later, Margo left up the comment telling her she looks like shit... but deleted the comment about her using meitu :lol:
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  13. Wow Margo is pretty much the embodiment of everything wrong with stage moms, but having that shit cranked up to the thousands.

    Can't say I blame Venus for fleeing.
     
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  14. I was looking for the nico stream in wich Venus wears red and white gym clothes so i could post it here. I wrote "Venus angelic nico nama" in google and pass them to katakana and kanji.

    I searched it and went to pages, i think it was page 17 or something of google search; it directed me to a CP website.

    I remember it said it had "venus angelic" "nico nama" and "real doll who loves japan" in japanese. When i click it it had a front with random photos, none of them was Venus. It was stock photos, models and a few photos in a club.

    I kept scrolling and it had a list of links in portuguese and japanese, and for the titles i could realize it was CP. Needless to say i inmediatly closed the website, so i don't know if Venus'stream was there.

    I'm posting this here for if someone wants to report the website or try to find Venus in it because i think some of the japanese links could be the "real doll who loves japan" one. I think Venus really did worse stuff than licking cream, but i'm not looking for it ever again.

    I don't remember the site's title exactly, but it was bad-written english and said "model" , "nude", "non" and i think "less".
     
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  15. While your dedication to finding more of her live broadcasts is admirable, going through CP to do so is not a necessary sacrifice - nor do we want those links here.

    I'm not surprised the broadcasts got sucked up into the lolibait universe; but I don't think that was Margo's outright intention - she just wanted the attention on the videos. Her eventual plans were to auction Venus off to a rich man, but at that point she just wanted the attention / ad dollars.

    Rather than the broadcasts recordings themselves, I'd be more interested in any communication of Margo's related to said broadcasts. She used to haunt blog comment sections all the time, harassing and haranguing endlessly. There's got to be some public comment she made about the nature of the broadcasts.

    EDIT: this angle of Venus doing purposeful CP was a big angle of the insane NJM. But unless there's outright proof of Margo taking in dollars for access to Very Young Venus on live chats advertised as pr0n, the live videos are simply very uncomfortable and more proof of Margo's horrifying insanity than proof of some CP ring.
     
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  16. Please don't visit CP sites or post links here.

    We're focusing on Margo. Just the clips you posted were a good enough sample of the fucked up shit she put Venus through - we don't need the whole nine yards.
     
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  17. I don't think i can find Margo's comments about the nico housou because she can't talk japanese (remember when she said "kawaii" trying to impersonate Manaki?). So she couldn't read the comment "haters" in her videos (and then sperg).

    I'm not obsessed with Venus's sexualitty, just tought if she really did/showed more, that would be another posibly criminal charge against Margo.

    In another note, How does she get away with it? Being an illegal inmigrant, comitting tax evation, slandering, harassing and stalking, assaulting both Venus and Manaki, scamming and abusing visas. Also probably neglecting and abusing Venus, prostitution and promoting her daughter as pedo-bait.

    Is really that easy to be a criminal if you go from one coutry to another?
     
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  18. Like pretty much everybody in this thread knows,Venus used to be a big thing in the beauty-fashion internet community,and by proxy,Margo too.

    Even tho her recent antics are not related to beauty or fashion,it's still related to Venus and she's still relevant in those community and cow-boards about them.

    Relax a bit with that,your last 8 post were only about that and it's getting a bit weird.Like other users said,dont post link to illegal website,it's bound to do shit.
    We know Margo was using Venus to do some batshit things and you covered it pretty well.
     
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    #2618 Milktheturtle, Jan 2, 2017
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  19. Tourist visas. Working for a company in the UK that's based in multiple countries so she was not working illegally, technically (i.e. the gym she worked at briefly in London.) She's an EU citizen, so she's not as suspicious as most illegals. No permanent address - she uses AirBnB and hostels.

    Not a crime any country wants to jail you for - they want you out and working so you can pay them back. It takes a significant amount before immigration would flag you for it, like $250K. Margo never made that much. Again, she has no fixed abode, which makes it hard to mail her notices and subpoenas. Her money is also very convoluted - she got spousal support and welfare from Switzerland; her gym paycheck in London was issued from a separate European mainland company; and Venus's YT money was issued from California, USA (if Margo actually filed as taking a salary, and didn't just fuck up Venus's income and tax papers to lay the blame on her.)

    Venus and / or Manaki would have to press charges. They have ample reason to do so, but it's pretty clear that they're not interested (Japan in particular has VERY strict defamation laws, known there as an "honor crime". The criminal punishments are actually more severe than the civil ones, should Venus wish to lay charges against Margo.) Even when the police have been called to their residence, unless Venus or Mana specifically request that Margo be charged, she will simply be told to get lost and not bother them again.

    That's a bit of a mystery, but she keeps on the move, and under the radar. She doesn't work, so there's no chance of getting caught working illegally. This may help her.

    No witnesses. They move all the time, and Margo kept Venus completely isolated from family who would have reported her, and never allowed Venus to have friends, so no chance of a friend's parent being concerned for Venus. Margo pulled V out of school by the time she was 12, and moved often even before then - so no chance of a mandatory reporter seeing Margo's behavior and / or Venus's bruises and reporting it to the authorities. And if Margo DID draw attention to her abuse of Venus - as Venus said, she used to scream at the top of her lungs when beaten in the hopes someone would hear her and come to help - Margo could simply move them to another apartment, since she never uses a lease.

    Have to get caught in the actual act for prostitution. Margo's current situation is the most likely to get her caught in a string operation. It's not illegal to make creepy videos of your kid if they're clothed, no matter how nauseating the context and purpose.

    Yes and no. Margo isn't a criminal as much as she is a lazy, lowlife scammer / benefits scrounger. The thing that's most likely to get her arrested at some point is her hair trigger temper.
     
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  20. And it seems like Venus doesnt want to get Margs in trouble,but she just want to be left alone with Manaki and not be bothered by her crazy mother antics.It's pretty normal considering it's her mother,but I still dont get it.Especially after the IG post when Margs tried to make people believe that Manaki hit her.
     
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