Masculinity and Femininity - You be gay if you wear Axe

[Overcast]

With the whole #MeToo movement and how the term "toxic masculinity" has been thrown around a lot, what it means to be a man or a woman seems to be more confusing and daunting than it already is for a lot of people.

What exactly are your thoughts? What even is masculinity and femininity by your definition?

 

[RG 448]

Cooking homemade meals is a funny hobby for one and a non-negotiable duty for the other.

 

[Overcast]

Cooking homemade meals is a funny hobby for one and a non-negotiable duty for the other.

That actually reminds me of this one time back in high school, the boys and girls were all putting up signs poking fun at each other using sexist terms.

"Women should get back in the kitchen."

"Women are like elephants, nice to look at, but not something you want to keep."

"Men smell terrible and are blockheads" or something along those lines.

I think it might have been like a senior prank or something, but nobody was really bothered by it.

 

[RG 448]

That actually reminds me of this one time back in high school, the boys and girls were all putting up signs poking fun at each other using sexist terms.

"Women should get back in the kitchen."

"Women are like elephants, nice to look at, but not something you want to keep."

"Men smell terrible and are blockheads" or something along those lines.

I think it might have been like a senior prank or something, but nobody was really bothered by it.

Makes sense that the men were the ones with the funny signs.

 

[skiddlez]

Masculinity is essentially where you beat the shit out of/kill everything in a fit of constant caveman tard rage. Think "HULK SMASH" and "RIP AND TEAR." Femininity is being a giggly annoying faggot 24/7, like omg, and also bending over. And making babies.

I think that about sums it up I guess.

Spoiler

I'm not a good philosopher

 

[ES 148]

I do whatever the fuck I want tbh

 

[Coleman Francis]

what it means to be a man or a woman seems to be more confusing and daunting than it already is for a lot of people.

This doesn't even cross normal people's mind.

 

[Woke Blue Muttlema]

The mere idea of analyzing gender roles is harder to determine than most people think, yet the only ones trying are perpetuating them even more.

 

[QB 290]

We live in a world where these terms mean less and less every day. They're not nearly as important as they were 40 -50 years ago.

Unless we're talking about soyboys, because they really do need to grow some balls

 

[OhGoy]

masculinity is having a big ol' dick

femininity is having some big ol' titties

 

[Monika H.]

Call me old-fashioned, but I think that both masculinity and femininity can't be really changed.
It's a set of psycho-physical characteristics that are innate, and just influenced by the cultural standpoint.
My wife who is a feminist (one of the good ones though) could respond better than I do. Hell, I'll ask her.

 

[Coleman Francis]

Call me old-fashioned, but I think that both masculinity and femininity can't be really changed.
It's a set of psycho-physical characteristics that are innate, and just influenced by the cultural standpoint.
My wife who is a feminist (one of the good ones though) could respond better than I do. Hell, I'll ask her.

Absolutely. There are some things that each are just better at and more interested in.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Masculinity:
Strength, assertive, stern.

Femininity:
Nurturing, understanding,

There are many more descriptive words I could use, but these give the general gist of what I see the differences to be.

 

[Hell0]

i dont know. being muscle boy seems cool. but so does baking cookies.

 

[The Hansome Goblin]

I'm trying to avoid the external stereotypes for the most part and just concentrate on what make sense as innate characteristics, but that's a little tough to do for masculinity, the first one being an exception because even if you're a soyboy, well, save for another time, but for one, the wymyns.

Masculinity: Dignity (the biggie), assertiveness, emotionally cool, decisiveness, sternness, autonomous, constantly competitive.

Femininity: in tune emotionally, expressive, empathetic, seek comfort and security in some form or another, collaborative, in some way need others,

 

[Monika H.]

Okay, talked about it over dinner.
Her opinion is quite similar to mine, although she notes that a big variable stands on the type and quality of relationship the individuals have, specifically the man/woman (as a couple), man/man, woman/woman and parent/offspring.
The typical masculine characteristics ( strength, pride, autonomy) have to bilance with the general feminine ones (empathy, emotivity, provider/seeker of comfort) in the axis of the relationship.
Let me elaborate: every relationship has a dominant element and a submissive element. That's common knowledge. What is not very known, is that this kind of equilibrium tend to shifts in actually healthy relationships.
Masculinity and femininity don't actually establish the dominant and submissive elements of a relationship, but the way they relate to the personality of the invidual it's a big factor in establishing said roles in the different situations.
If an element is always dominant and the other always submissive, then it's a good 80% the relationship is not healthy.

 

[MG 620]

Masculinity - Potato Phil
Femininity - Not Potato Phil

 

[drtoboggan]

It’s not Axe. It’s Ask body spray. Blacks wear it.

 

[NN 401]

Okay, talked about it over dinner.
Her opinion is quite similar to mine, although she notes that a big variable stands on the type and quality of relationship the individuals have, specifically the man/woman (as a couple), man/man, woman/woman and parent/offspring.
The typical masculine characteristics ( strength, pride, autonomy) have to bilance with the general feminine ones (empathy, emotivity, provider/seeker of comfort) in the axis of the relationship.
Let me elaborate: every relationship has a dominant element and a submissive element. That's common knowledge. What is not very known, is that this kind of equilibrium tend to shifts in actually healthy relationships.
Masculinity and femininity don't actually establish the dominant and submissive elements of a relationship, but the way they relate to the personality of the invidual it's a big factor in establishing said roles in the different situations.
If an element is always dominant and the other always submissive, then it's a good 80% the relationship is not healthy.

This is pretty astute and is something that both sides of the argument get wrong.

Conservative Christians blither on and on about wives submitting to husbands without taking into account that as individuals people are sometimes better than other people at certain things. They also forget that the call to submission originated as a curse in Genesis but fuck biblical literacy, right?

Ultimately, in order for men and women to succeed in life they need to integrate and deploy both the feminine and masculine traits within and under the right circumstances.

Female mother archetypes like Isis, Changing Woman and even the Virgin Mary to a certain extent, are female entities who have to take on both both male and female roles and traits in order to survive and to be good mothers to their hero sons.

 

[Kitlen]

Hear me out. I'm female but I hate the #MeToo movement for several reasons.
1. It equates simple catcalls with rape and sexual assault. Being called "sweetie" (which is debatable if that is even catcalling) and being brutally raped are two very different things and the movement doesn't address that.
2. #MeToo has often been used for Witch Hunts and vilifying men, often for no other reason than that they disagree or dare to call out a woman's bullshit behavior.
3. While #MeToo brings awareness, it does nothing else and is simply virtue signaling. The people who started the movement have done nothing to solve the issues. Awareness is good, but being aware that is a problem is not the end all be all. Implementation and prevention is what really needs to happen.
4. Saying "toxic masculinity" is bullshit. Masculinity is not inherently evil, nor is feminine characteristics. In fact, if you look at the statistics, boys without fathers are much more likely to become criminals or commit violent acts than boys with fathers. I argue it is a toxic LACK of masculinity that is causing the issue.