Masturbation: Do you subscribe to the mainstream idea it is healthy? -

[Lemmingwise]

This is not a topic about porn, though I'm sure that subject will come up. This is about masturbation itself. I think the mainstream idea is that masturbation is healthy, that everyone should do it because it's fun and that you shouldn't overdo it.

The history of views on masturbation is a tumulteous one. Many historical views seem to be that masturbation (in men) saps the strength and vigor. And that it makes women crazy(er). Some american colonies leveled the death penalty on masturbators, based on the views in the Onassia book by Tissot.

Circumcision of men in the US derives directly from Kellog believing masturbation to be worse than war, plague, small-pox. His suggestion to burn the clitoris with acid wasn't as long lived.

Now many of those views I presume are not subscribed to by any of the people reading this (correct me if wrong). Though speaking purely personally, I have noticed significant difference in energy with or without masturbation that is different from with or without ejaculation through sex (possibly for all the positive effects of sex). But it's hard to judge if those things are placebo, with a dataset of one.

There are more contemporary people who take a negative view on masturbation, including the whole nofap thing and no nut november and fringe people like e. michael jones who consider it a form of sexual /political control. On the other end of the insanity spectrum you have things like the "all about me" sex education in Birmingham that was aimed at teaching masturbation to 4-5 year olds. I'm just curious to know if there other people who have divergent positions than the mainstream, and why? Or if they have unorthodox reasons for their orthodox position. Share your thoughts and experiences.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

yes its healthy. just dont do it every fucking day.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

Making this thread was masturbatory.

 

[Marco Fucko]

Legalize brothels and let dudes bust a nut in a true and honest female, win-win.

 

[Dildo]

No, self rape is literally worse than the Rwandan genocide and makes all the angels cry.

 

[Classist.]

I think that for some it can be a timewaster but it's not that bad. I think the worst thing about masturbation is that frankly for many people sex is highly motivating and with that deep psychological need constantly satiated some people might not achieve as much as they might otherwise. That said people who talk about semen retention or say your dick will fall off are retarded.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Besides some disturbing professors, the popular idea seems to be that masturbation is a sign of being a loser, regardless of any health benefit. Of course people do it anyways because modern social interaction is fucked.

 

[NIGGER ASS PEE POOPY RAPE]

I'm sure fucking your gf everyday is more healthy, not sure why anyone would choose to masturbate instead unless you're crippled or morbidly obese or something

 

[Lemmingwise]

Making this thread was masturbatory.

Felt good to make the thread too.

It's like Diogenes said when he was criticized for masturbating at the market. "If only it were as easy to banish hunger by rubbing my belly "

 

[Botchy Galoop]

Masturbation in puberty is healthy and a wonderful thing.
Masturbation as a single person is healthy. Better to whack it than stick your dick in crazy.
Masturbation occasionally if in a relationship is healthy.
Masturbation as your main release in a relationship is fucked. Divorce court ahead.
If your main release in a relationship is still masturbation, either your partner has a problem or you have a problem.

 

[ExciteDyke]

I'm sure fucking your gf everyday is more healthy, not sure why anyone would choose to masturbate instead unless you're crippled or morbidly obese or something

Their gfs all coincidentally share the name "Rosie Palms"

 

[Tim Buckley]

Mastubration is healthy, porn however is a very toxic drug which people should avoid in general.

 

[Cardenio]

Mastubration is healthy, porn however is a very toxic drug which people should avoid in general.

Agreed. It is much better for people to be able to pleasure themselves without external stimuli.

I think the big reason why we have this whole Incel problem is that men can cope with singleness with pornography. Whereas in the past guys would just get so damn bored of it they'd get over their nervousness and ask a chick out.

 

[Tim Buckley]

I think the big reason why we have this whole Incel problem is that men can cope with singleness with pornography.

Incels are unable to do such a thing as "coping", specially regarding sex issues but I digress.

 

[Wraith]

I fap to Lemmingwise four times a day already. I don't see the problem here.

Spoiler

Never do things in 3s. It's retarded.

 

[Dom Cruise]

In my experience too frequent masturbation numbs your penis out taking a lot of the pleasure away and making it frustrating, I've even had incidents where the skin has worn off a bit.

But after going about a week with an orgasm it gets really uncomfortable and I couldn't imagine continuing to deal with that and not just rubbing one out and getting it over with, there's absolutely no harm in at least an occasional fap.

As for what material you use for stimulation though one should always tread lightly with the typical internet pornography, pictures of beautiful ladies in various states of undress should be enough for you most of the time if you want to be healthy sexuality wise.

And if you have to watch porn try to keep it to the more tasteful amateur stuff oftentimes featuring real couples or at least real people, not "pornstars", stuff that is actually real and even then that should be used in moderation.

 

[The Spice boi]

I'd say the biggest drawback to masturbation is that it's a big productivity killer, for me at least.

Healthy, sure. But bad if you need to push yourself to work on something and theres no pressure to get it done

 

[Positron]

If you fap to trannies you'll go blind.

 

[Cardenio]

Incels are unable to do such a thing as "coping", specially regarding sex issues but I digress.

I guess I could have phrased that better. What I mean is that the majority of those within the Incel community weren't turned into incels overnight. Most people are not natural charmers, 99 percent of men get rejected.

Not getting sex makes men horny, and when the best thing you had until the 2000s was a Penthouse magazine jacking off got boring quick. So what did men do? They self improved or they just settled down with an ugly girl.

But then free high quality porn came along. And now men can cope and just jerk off and not care that they're single. That's what leads to inceldome.

 

[Spamy the Bot]

The key is doing it in moderation and avoid overstimulation.
People get used to things if they do them too often and require more extreme inputs to get their kicks.
See how porn addicts and coomers are going into a more fucked up direction because the normal-ish stuff just doesn't work anymore.

Doing it much will possibly make you feel lethargic and low key depressed. And being passive sucks.