Matthew Patrick / "MatPat" / @MatPatGT / The Game Theorists / The Film Theorists - Just a homosexual theory: Everyone is a HATER?; Plagiarism & Clickbait King

[Scratchin’ Professional]

I get the feeling that MatPat goes out of his way to find any kind of criticism against him. I mean, he went as far as to use a stupid Change.org petition made by some kid three years ago as evidence that he gets such "devastating hatred on the Internet". (Source)

If someone were to make another video about MatPat that caught his attention in just the right kind of way, it might produce enough tard cum to push him over the edge.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Lol, that title is so adorable.

 

[Cake Farts]

Matt calls himself "someone who tries to advocate for science, logic, and critical thought"

Nothing wrong with doing that, but if you are trying to do that on video games you are a fucking sped.

 

[TheScooper]

I get the feeling that MatPat goes out of his way to find any kind of criticism against him. I mean, he went as far as to use a stupid Change.org petition made by some kid three years ago as evidence that he gets such "devastating hatred on the Internet". (Source)

If someone were to make another video about MatPat that caught his attention in just the right kind of way, it might produce enough tard cum to push him over the edge.

Hey, I think your right on the first part, but with The Freddy Files ndjsjns released (ok granted alot of is still unclear) a chunk of Mat's theroies get thrown of the window.

 

[Yeeb-Renzo]

I get the feeling that MatPat goes out of his way to find any kind of criticism against him. I mean, he went as far as to use a stupid Change.org petition made by some kid three years ago as evidence that he gets such "devastating hatred on the Internet". (Source)

If someone were to make another video about MatPat that caught his attention in just the right kind of way, it might produce enough tard cum to push him over the edge.

It’s not much, but there was this one video were MatPat called a fellow criticizer of his videos a “hater” when he was debunking one of matpat’s theory. You can find it here starting at 9:03. The dude responded back to him here to that livestreamed video, and he goes over how Mat is wrong and how he does skip over contradictory evidence as shown with the use of Inside A Mind’s video. Then at the second half of the video, he debunk’s MatPat’s claims that Nintendo confirming Mario is Punching yoshi on the head confirms that Mario is a psychopath is wrong. Basically, it was intended that Nintendo wanted mario to punch yoshi on the head, but ended up changing it in the final product.

 

[Scratchin’ Professional]

Also, in his next Undertale theory after the chimpout one, he gave thanks to people who apologized for people who were critical of him. I'm worried that's further creating an environment where people don't want to criticize or prove him wrong. (From 0:34 to 1:55)

Honestly, what I would think would be cool is if MatPat not only brought up evidence to counter a theory, but to actively encourage it among his fans.

He could have a whole segment where he could showcase and respond to individual comments that give feedback on his videos, like what Philip DeFranco did with his Friday episodes or what Jacksfilms does with his series YIAY. I could imagine a whole bunch of MatPat's fans eager to see if they can debunk the theory and get mentioned by their dear Lord and Saviour. Plus, it would get MatPat to acknowledge that a lot of his theories are complete bullshit and make him try to find ways to improve them. It would be such a better strategy than to just either ignore criticism all together, throw a hissy fit like he did in the chimpout video, or make fun of fans who criticize him and miss their points entirely like in the hater livestream.

 

[omori]

Didn't he end up making the Gravity Falls theory anyway? Did he ever credit the guy that wrote the script for him?

Additionally: the whole Stan is Bill/Bill is Stan thing is a theory that's been kicking around since the series ended, Journal 3 and the additional choose your own adventure books were released. And that was what? Two years ago now?

 

[Scratchin’ Professional]

It’s not much, but there was this one video were MatPat called a fellow criticizer of his videos a “hater” when he was debunking one of matpat’s theory. You can find it here starting at 9:03. The dude responded back to him here to that livestreamed video, and he goes over how Mat is wrong and how he does skip over contradictory evidence as shown with the use of Inside A Mind’s video. Then at the second half of the video, he debunk’s MatPat’s claims that Nintendo confirming Mario is Punching yoshi on the head confirms that Mario is a psychopath is wrong. Basically, it was intended that Nintendo wanted mario to punch yoshi on the head, but ended up changing it in the final product.

Jesus, it's like this gay discount Brandon Flowers never learns. These aren't haters trying to bring you down, these people are trying to help you, dumbass.

I've actually seen this guy, MangaKamen, making videos about Game Theory before. This one sticks out to me the most, it looks like shit but I think it brings up a couple of good points:

 

[Yeeb-Renzo]

Didn't he end up making the Gravity Falls theory anyway? Did he ever credit the guy that wrote the script for him?

Additionally: the whole Stan is Bill/Bill is Stan thing is a theory that's been kicking around since the series ended, Journal 3 and the additional choose your own adventure books were released. And that was what? Two years ago now?

If you check the description, there is no mention or link to Inside A Mind’s channel or script, not even a thank you to him for the script he wrote. I do, however, remember a few comments pointing out how MatPat did use his script and Jamie did end-up commenting saying “thank you for using my script : )” to one of those comments pointing that fact out.

What’s also kind of interesting is that apparently MatPat helps promote one of his worker’s channel by linking it at the bottom of the description for helping him create music, but he for some reason doesn’t do that for others who help him edit and script his stuff.

 

[Bubsy]

Anyone who photoshops a picture of themselves doing a trollface and plasters it in every video he does is worthy of the title "lolcow".

 

[Dirt McGirt]

You at least gotta give him credit for actually crediting the Reddit users who found this shit at this time, unlike the countless other times matpat never mentioned the people who bent their backs over and accomplished something in their community.

No, matpat just goes onto some fandom subreddit, looks at a few details and trending theories, makes videos on them, and never credits the people who contributed to the theory and evidence. He’s just a messenger, a bad one at that, that tells his young audience about all this “cool and interesting and believable,” theories that he himself probably didn’t create and ripped it from elsewhere without credit.

Didn't he end up making the Gravity Falls theory anyway? Did he ever credit the guy that wrote the script for him?

This seems like an interesting pattern. If people can dig up some solid examples, I think this thread has a good bit of potential. And there's the possible plus of doing so drawing his attention and hopefully some sort of chimpout.

 

[Scratchin’ Professional]

This seems like an interesting pattern. If people can dig up some solid examples, I think this thread has a good bit of potential. And there's the possible plus of doing so drawing his attention and hopefully some sort of chimpout.

Oh! This is the first one that comes to mind! Zelda Informer posted this editorial about Majora's Mask and The Kübler-Ross model (the five stages of grief), and about two years later, MatPat uploads this video, where he makes virtually the same points as the ZI article:

A few years later, Zelda Informer posts another editorial where they say 1) while they don't necessarily take credit for their comparison of the game and the five stages of grief, the earliest roots do stem from the initial editorial, and 2) MatPat's theory is a bunch of "mumbo jumbo" that goes against actual in-game evidence (go fuckin figure, it's one-sided like all his other crackpot theories).

There also seems to be a claim that MatPat's Poppy analysis was a rip-off of another analysis by Nick Nocturn, aka Night Mind. (source, albeit not a great one). I'm not entirely sure about that one because I'm not familiar with Poppy, but that could be another one to look into.

 

[Yeeb-Renzo]

Oh! This is the first one that comes to mind! Zelda Informer posted this editorial about Majora's Mask and The Kübler-Ross model (the five stages of grief), and about two years later, MatPat uploads this video, where he makes virtually the same points as the ZI article:

A few years later, Zelda Informer posts another editorial where they say 1) while they don't necessarily take credit for their comparison of the game and the five stages of grief, the earliest roots do stem from the initial editorial, and 2) MatPat's theory is a bunch of "mumbo jumbo" that goes against actual in-game evidence (go fuckin figure, it's one-sided like all his other crackpot theories).

Another video by MangaKamen disproves this theory as well, here in this video starting at around 9:40.
TL;DW, MatPat looks over sources that disprove link’s area/purgatory and him saying the statues link makes in majora’s are a sign that he is dead is false.

 

[Viridian]

Oh! This is the first one that comes to mind! Zelda Informer posted this editorial about Majora's Mask and The Kübler-Ross model (the five stages of grief), and about two years later, MatPat uploads this video, where he makes virtually the same points as the ZI article:

A few years later, Zelda Informer posts another editorial where they say 1) while they don't necessarily take credit for their comparison of the game and the five stages of grief, the earliest roots do stem from the initial editorial, and 2) MatPat's theory is a bunch of "mumbo jumbo" that goes against actual in-game evidence (go fuckin figure, it's one-sided like all his other crackpot theories).

There also seems to be a claim that MatPat's Poppy analysis was a rip-off of another analysis by Nick Nocturn, aka Night Mind. (source, albeit not a great one). I'm not entirely sure about that one because I'm not familiar with Poppy, but that could be another one to look into.

Fun fact: Nick Nocturne personally detests MatPat. Normally Nick projects a very reasonable and positive presence online, but when it comes to talking about MatPat, well... read for yourselves.

https://twitter.com/nm_nicknocturne/status/804111807573032960?lang=en

https://twitter.com/nm_nicknocturne/status/763195147668582400?lang=en

https://twitter.com/nm_nicknocturne/status/807677029021847553?lang=en

https://nick-nocturn.tumblr.com/post/156821240345/the-problem-with-matpat-in-my-opinion-is-well-how

https://nick-nocturn.tumblr.com/post/156822253080/oh-shit-matpats-done-more-i-stopped-watching

https://www.reddit.com/r/Petscop/comments/6v09yb/nick_nocturne_is_having_a_little_fit_on_twitter/

https://twitter.com/NM_NickNocturne/status/942989007226658816

https://twitter.com/NM_NickNocturne/status/937974085736370176

He's mellowed out a bit in the past week or so regarding MatPat, but there's a lot of past comments and posts in this same vein out there from Nick. I don't think I've ever seen MatPat respond to any of them though.

 

[Scratchin’ Professional]

Fun fact: Nick Nocturne personally detests MatPat. Normally Nick projects a very reasonable and positive presence online, but when it comes to talking about MatPat, well... read for yourselves.

https://twitter.com/nm_nicknocturne/status/804111807573032960?lang=en

https://twitter.com/nm_nicknocturne/status/763195147668582400?lang=en

https://twitter.com/nm_nicknocturne/status/807677029021847553?lang=en

https://nick-nocturn.tumblr.com/post/156821240345/the-problem-with-matpat-in-my-opinion-is-well-how

https://nick-nocturn.tumblr.com/post/156822253080/oh-shit-matpats-done-more-i-stopped-watching

https://www.reddit.com/r/Petscop/comments/6v09yb/nick_nocturne_is_having_a_little_fit_on_twitter/

https://twitter.com/NM_NickNocturne/status/942989007226658816

https://twitter.com/NM_NickNocturne/status/937974085736370176

He's mellowed out a bit in the past week or so regarding MatPat, but there's a lot of past comments and posts in this same vein out there from Nick. I don't think I've ever seen MatPat respond to any of them though.

The third tweet from the top that you linked shows MatPat responding to Nick's tweet.

 

[Viridian]

The third tweet from the top that you linked shows MatPat responding to Nick's tweet.

Derp, I missed that. It's been a long day filled with holiday cheer, and by cheer I mean booze.

 

[Scratchin’ Professional]

Derp, I missed that. It's been a long day filled with holiday cheer, and by cheer I mean booze.

Fair enough. Also after going through both Poppy videos, I can't really say there's enough evidence there to say MatPat's video is a rip-off, my bad. However, I still think there are a lot of rip-off theory videos in there somewhere.

 

[CryoWuzHere]

Film theory: is reddit sans confirmed?!?

 

[Yeeb-Renzo]

Fun fact: Nick Nocturne personally detests MatPat. Normally Nick projects a very reasonable and positive presence online, but when it comes to talking about MatPat, well... read for yourselves.

https://twitter.com/nm_nicknocturne/status/804111807573032960?lang=en

https://twitter.com/nm_nicknocturne/status/763195147668582400?lang=en

https://twitter.com/nm_nicknocturne/status/807677029021847553?lang=en

https://nick-nocturn.tumblr.com/post/156821240345/the-problem-with-matpat-in-my-opinion-is-well-how

https://nick-nocturn.tumblr.com/post/156822253080/oh-shit-matpats-done-more-i-stopped-watching

https://www.reddit.com/r/Petscop/comments/6v09yb/nick_nocturne_is_having_a_little_fit_on_twitter/

https://twitter.com/NM_NickNocturne/status/942989007226658816

https://twitter.com/NM_NickNocturne/status/937974085736370176

He's mellowed out a bit in the past week or so regarding MatPat, but there's a lot of past comments and posts in this same vein out there from Nick. I don't think I've ever seen MatPat respond to any of them though.

Damn, Nightmind was not having any of it with Matpat. That salt tho.

 

[Viridian]

Fair enough. Also after going through both Poppy videos, I can't really say there's enough evidence there to say MatPat's video is a rip-off, my bad. However, I still think there are a lot of rip-off theory videos in there somewhere.

While I have seen MatPat cover a particular topic after Night Mind does a video on it, I've also seen the reverse happen (as in the case of "Don't Hug Me, I'm Scared"). They also tend to focus on different details and float different theories even when they do videos on the same subject.

However, I've seen some reasonable allegations that MatPat has cut and pasted Reddit theories into the scripts for some of his videos. I think that's why MatPat has started crediting Redditors in some of his theory videos, to protect himself from those accusations.