Orbiter Matthew Vickers / @Matthew / Vicious Vickers - Failed Father and dramacow

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Not to be a dick or anything, but $5k isn’t a great deal of money. Say what you will about Vickers, he has long supported a very large family in a rather expensive state. He doesn’t have to bet on Japanese basketball in the hope of making enough money to keep the lights on like Ralph does. Talking about $5k as if it’s a life changing amount of money is pretty sad.
5k is probably a meh month at his shop. Most people aren't Ralph and living off of a sandwich artist's salary.
 

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5k is probably a meh month at his shop. Most people aren't Ralph and living off of a sandwich artist's salary.
Not just that, but Vickers has basic grown-up things like savings, retirement, and investment accounts. I’d venture that he also has at least good, if not excellent, credit and the perks that go along with that. He didn’t have to agonize or even think twice about what it would cost to make the trip.

I’m extremely critical of @MWV but he and his wife are clearly good providers for their family. Real men don’t knock up teenagers and then waddle away from responsibility as fast as their short little legs can carry them.

I don’t know Vickers’ family background but I assume he had a better, more instructive upbringing than Ethan’s parents gave him. That’s said, Ethan Ralph has been a legal adult for 17 years. It’s his responsibility to manage his own life in a way he can be proud of, and he’s failed on every possible criteria of such. It’s no coincidence that he’s got to scrounge, gamble, e-beg, and send a pregnant mare out to a minimum wage job just to raise a mere $10k for the legal costs of a situation he created himself.

Deep down, I believe Ethan knows how embarrassing this is, which is why he has to be constantly wasted and overcompensates with so much bluster. It’s obvious he’s one of life’s big losers and will do nothing to change that. I don’t think he’d even know where to start, but I’ll give him a hint: it starts with the letters AA.
 

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Not to be a dick or anything, but $5k isn’t a great deal of money. . . . Talking about $5k as if it’s a life changing amount of money is pretty sad.
While $5K may not be a life changing amount of money, it is a substantial sum for most people to simply piss away for an at-most couple day trip to Virginia which accomplished basically nothing that couldn't have been done with a phone call to the ADA. I frankly don't understand how Vickers managed to spend that much money on a intra-national trip, even factoring in the size of his family (plane tickets for Xander, Faith, Vickers, Vickers' dog, Vickers' grandma's ashes, and hotel rooms for all of them), and I hope/suspect he was lying about the overall sum just to brag.
 

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I frankly don't understand how Vickers managed to spend that much money on a intra-national trip, even factoring in the size of his family (plane tickets for Xander, Faith, Vickers, Vickers' dog, Vickers' grandma's ashes, and hotel rooms for all of them), and I hope/suspect he was lying about the overall sum just to brag.
Let’s say $600 x 4 tickets = $2400 (they’re not flying on the cheapest possible tickets like Ralph). Might have been more, might have been less.

Let’s say two nights in a decent hotel, either two rooms or a nice suite, $600

Meals for this tubby family won’t come cheap. Let’s say another $600 for seven meals plus babby food to supplement nursing.

Ubers to/from airports, let’s say $200.

Unless he’s including the cost of hiring coverage for him and Mrs. V at the coin shop, $5k seems a bit much.
 

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How many of the Vickers kids college funds are now gone cause their sister couldn't keep her dumb legs closed? I wouldn't be suprised if they have spent a ridiculous sum like a 100k when all of this comes to an end and for what? So Ralph gets a little bit of probation? Ralph spent the entire previous probathion drunk and high and nothing happend to him. His situation is entierly unchanged.
Vickers won't have to worry about sending his kids to college if Faith is any indicator. Might as well blow it on an RV out in the Arizona desert for him and Wine drunk Mrs. Vickers. His kids will just piss it away on drugs and funko pops.
 

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What I don't get is that Vickers said that Ralph would appeal if found guilty, but wouldn't that appeal have been with him in jail? And eventually the result would be the same once he lost the appeal, so where is the positive from their perspective in letting him slip jail? They would have at least gotten a few months where they didn't have to worry about him at all.

If the entire point was about custody they could have just ignored Ralph the last few months and he would have never bothered to seek out Xander and had s better outcome, so what was the point of it all?
 

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What I don't get is that Vickers said that Ralph would appeal if found guilty, but wouldn't that appeal have been with him in jail? And eventually the result would be the same once he lost the appeal, so where is the positive from their perspective in letting him slip jail? They would have at least gotten a few months where they didn't have to worry about him at all.

If the entire point was about custody they could have just ignored Ralph the last few months and he would have never bothered to seek out Xander and had s better outcome, so what was the point of it all?
I think it was for revenge, he realized there was a chance Ralph would win the case, he didn't want to risk anything, and is now trying to phrase it as an absolute win because he talked such a big game.
 

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What I don't get is that Vickers said that Ralph would appeal if found guilty, but wouldn't that appeal have been with him in jail? And eventually the result would be the same once he lost the appeal, so where is the positive from their perspective in letting him slip jail? They would have at least gotten a few months where they didn't have to worry about him at all.

If the entire point was about custody they could have just ignored Ralph the last few months and he would have never bothered to seek out Xander and had s better outcome, so what was the point of it all?
In retrospect, I doubt jail time was ever really on the cards. Simply due to the fact it was a misdemeanor charge, and as far as I can tell unless you are a repeat offender they usually stick to the lower end of what the charges are. In a shock turnaround, Ralph was right that jailtime was highly unlikely.

My 2 cents: I think the problem with the case was not whether Ralph released the porn, that was a slam dunk, it was the intent behind releasing it. The intent to embarrass notorious paedophile @Ahalfwaycrook does not count in VA.

The recording was therefore key to establish this intent was also directed towards Faith, but then the two party consent issue muddied the waters. It became a toss up based on whether it would be accepted, and whether him saying that was his intent post-hoc would count.

Personally, I think the VA statute should be revised to have exemptions for releasing it, rather than requiring intent to be established.
 

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In retrospect, I doubt jail time was ever really on the cards. Simply due to the fact it was a misdemeanor charge, and as far as I can tell unless you are a repeat offender they usually stick to the lower end of what the charges are. In a shock turnaround, Ralph was right that jailtime was highly unlikely.

My 2 cents: I think the problem with the case was not whether Ralph released the porn, that was a slam dunk, it was the intent behind releasing it. The intent to embarrass notorious paedophile @Ahalfwaycrook does not count in VA.

The recording was therefore key to establish this intent was also directed towards Faith, but then the two party consent issue muddied the waters. It became a toss up based on whether it would be accepted, and whether him saying that was his intent post-hoc would count.

Personally, I think the VA statute should be revised to have exemptions for releasing it, rather than requiring intent to be established.
I think jail time was only on the cards IF he remained an obstinate asshole and went through with a trial. It really, really pisses off the DA and judge if you’re obviously guilty but wasting court time and money for a “not guilty yer honor” farce.

Ralph knew this, it’s why he pled no contest. He knew if he forced a whole, song and dance of a trial and was found guilty the judge would give him a month or two in the clink just for being an stubborn asshole that took up so much court time - so he folded.
 

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I think jail time was only on the cards IF he remained an obstinate asshole and went through with a trial. It really, really pisses off the DA and judge if you’re obviously guilty but wasting court time and money for a “not guilty yer honor” farce.

Ralph knew this, it’s why he pled no contest. He knew if he forced a whole, song and dance of a trial and was found guilty the judge would give him a month or two in the clink just for being an stubborn asshole that took up so much court time - so he folded.
I don't think so, Ralph wasn't even offered probation or any such thing. He was effectively told he would get a conviction - with all the negatives that brings - and just suspended jailtime. His fine was for some court fees, it was like $81 or something inconsequential.

I highly doubt they would have given him time, plus at the sentencing he could have pointed towards the foal he is set to have in the ensuing months. He would have gotten worse terms, but not by much - probably 6 months of probation, which in all likelihood would have done Ralph some good. It's quite clearly a case they did not give two fucks about, and just wanted to get it through court. Jail would be expensive and in their minds over the top
 

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He was found guilty. A conviction for revenge pornography is now on his criminal record.

There are no winners in this one. Every last one of them took an L on this.
I have the opposite perspective actually, I think everyone takes a W and arguably some L's.

The Vickers clan gets a conviction against Ralph which I fully believe will have some influence on their other cases (and allows them to say the court found him guilty of a sex crime against Faith), Ralph gets to continue to wigger it up due to maintaining his freedom, and we get to continue to enjoy watching a bunch of pigs/cows wallow in the mud for the foreseeable future

The fact that we got an outcome which gives both sides ammunition against the other is truly something to be celebrated.
 

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I have the opposite perspective actually, I think everyone takes a W and arguably some L's.

The Vickers clan gets a conviction against Ralph which I fully believe will have some influence on their other cases (and allows them to say the court found him guilty of a sex crime against Faith), Ralph gets to continue to wigger it up due to maintaining his freedom, and we get to continue to enjoy watching a bunch of pigs/cows wallow in the mud for the foreseeable future

The fact that we got an outcome which gives both sides ammunition against the other is truly something to be celebrated.
Not to mention that Ralph is now so high on his own bullshit that he’s bound to continue to fuck up on an even more epic scale. @MWV will try to claim this as his own personal win. But the fact is he squandered many opportunities and made a fool of himself with delusional boasting, much like his twin Ethan Ralph, all in an effort for e-fame. The entire fucking website devoted to his own teenaged daughter’s dirty laundry was the only clue we needed that this guy was a lolcow.
 

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it doesn’t just affect your finding a job though. there’s other things like being denied housing in certain areas.

also just cause he doesn’t have a job now you don’t know how the situation will change in the next few years. ralph constantly makes stupid choices including financially and it seems his gambling problem is fairly new and can go downhill pretty quickly. streaming isn’t a reliable job either especially with the possibility that pantsu tries to fuck him with child support payments.

if you’re a streamer the cash flow will stop eventually for most. it’s one thing to have lots of money put aside from it but i doubt ralph has very much in his savings account.

i believe it’s likely that at some point ralph will have no choice but to get a job. i also believe that demon spawn #2 won’t be his last (he said on his show he will have kids “all over the world”). ralph doesn’t learn from consequences. a normal person would touch the hot stove once, ralph will keep burning himself, and dolphin laugh and call you a pedophile while doing it
When he makes his next attempt to suckle at the government teat, Ralph is going to have a fun time disclosing this one. It's not easy to get disability/SNAP when you have to state (for the record) that you were convicted of a sex crime.
 

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That's exactly the reason I wanted Ralph to remain outside of prison
yea and leasing that shit truck is one of the worst fuckups as of late.

prediction: he’ll go to fill up his tank, see the absurd price of gas, then go to either nissan of richmond or the poor gas station attendant and gunt at them complaining about the price
 

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I got this from someone on Twitter. @MWV if you're going to continue to ayylawg Ralph can you please un-private your twitter account?
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Well, it's all archived.
Maybe Andy can get the family on for an interview. I support this decision. If you want to become an a-log, might as well a-log to the maximum.