Matthew Vickers / @Matthew / Vicious Vickers - Failed Father and dramacow

[goku123]

kino fugitive streams. also id love for him to try and play this as a ralpha move despite being a pitiful reason to leave the country after talking shit about null. but nah he sounded fairly resigned to his fate. i think hes just hoping for mercy and them not taking the 70k lie even though they can rape him with it. who knows maybe well even get a self-killstream

at the very least, he can save his son from trannification if he keeps some parental rights. he is gonna grow up in trannyfornia after all,

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I think a very idealistic, optimistic part of Ralph thought having a kid would force him to get his act together. Now it’s just another mess he’s made that so pains him to ponder that he needs to be wasted during his waking hours. Imagine trying to run from yourself 24/7, knowing you’ll never escape. What a way to live.

This is a old idea because decades ago because only the biggest POS hardened dead beat could stand to know their child could go hungry or cold because they were too lazy to work and provide. Luckily for human waste like Ralph the govt stepped in and women started working so he won’t be troubled at night about providing for his son, that’s the gummit and that dumb whore’s job, not his!

White trash stopped getting their acts together after the arrival of a baby once Johnson’s war of poverty programs kicked in. I mean just look at Ralph’s old man. Like father, like son. Maybe Gunt Jr. will grow up one day to break the cycle or just troon out. Hard to say. Maybe having grandpa and four older uncles will do for him what Ralph can’t.

 

[BlackShitPancakes]

I think a very idealistic, optimistic part of Ralph thought having a kid would force him to get his act together. Now it’s just another mess he’s made that so pains him to ponder that he needs to be wasted during his waking hours. Imagine trying to run from yourself 24/7, knowing you’ll never escape. What a way to live.

While I think that's possible, I think fame-obsessed Ralph was more interested in what the kid could do for the Killstream. Wasn't he planning to do a Killstream gender reveal before Fai escaped the crack shack?

This is a old idea because decades ago because only the biggest POS hardened dead beat could stand to know their child could go hungry or cold because they were too lazy to work and provide. Luckily for human waste like Ralph the govt stepped in and women started working so he won’t be troubled at night about providing for his son, that’s the gummit and that dumb whore’s job, not his!

White trash stopped getting their acts together after the arrival of a baby once Johnson’s war of poverty programs kicked in. I mean just look at Ralph’s old man. Like father, like son. Maybe Gunt Jr. will grow up one day to break the cycle or just troon out. Hard to say. Maybe having grandpa and four older uncles will do for him what Ralph can’t.

Super smart points here. I'm less optimistic because grandpa seems to be a revenge-driven idiot. I don't know shit about the other four kids, and hopefully that's a good thing. Even with seemingly inherent problems on the Vickers end, it's probably better than if the kid was born and raised in Richmond with a depressed mom, a pedophile, and almost dead grandma, a dad who will be more focused on his "career" than his kid (who probably won't live another ten years anyway). Unless the rest of the CA family is planning on harvesting Xander's organs for coin money, he's probably better off there.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

While I think that's possible, I think fame-obsessed Ralph was more interested in what the kid could do for the Killstream. Wasn't he planning to do a Killstream gender reveal before Fai escaped the crack shack?

Super smart points here. I'm less optimistic because grandpa seems to be a revenge-driven idiot. I don't know shit about the other four kids, and hopefully that's a good thing. Even with seemingly inherent problems on the Vickers end, it's probably better than if the kid was born and raised in Richmond with a depressed mom, a pedophile, and almost dead grandma, a dad who will be more focused on his "career" than his kid (who probably won't live another ten years anyway). Unless the rest of the CA family is planning on harvesting Xander's organs for coin money, he's probably better off there.

He’s far better off there. Even if Papa Vickers is awful, he’s managed to support a family of five kids, so some credit to him and the wife - that’s not easy and x5 more than Ralph is capable of.

Having four uncles is a big bonus. Even if the uncles aren’t so great themselves they will look out for the kid and keep his ass in line. Four sisters would be a disaster (for a boy) but four uncles? It’s the only lucky break the kid got, esp being born to a single teen mom.

 

[AltisticRight]

Gunt did? I don’t doubt you at all (fell behind on his shit show once he got his own subforum with dozens of threads), but do you have more detail on this?

I think it was in the leaks? Let me find it.

 

[BlackShitPancakes]

I think it was in the leaks? Let me find it.

The Genius Anus leaks are still on his Twitter. Is this the one you are thinking of?

 

[MeltyTW]

I think a very idealistic, optimistic part of Ralph thought having a kid would force him to get his act together. Now it’s just another mess he’s made that so pains him to ponder that he needs to be wasted during his waking hours. Imagine trying to run from yourself 24/7, knowing you’ll never escape. What a way to live.

i think he's said as much to mr vickers. i dont understand continuing to double down on the ralpha male lifestyle when we've all seen him admit its empty and he's miserable and is desperately trying to run away from being a human pig whether its trying to move in with ade only to be drugged up and smuggled out like some home invading bum, or impregnating a child (or claiming it's his not giving up on the ftm theory without proof). maybe he's just trying to fool himself at this point.

ralph, some heartfelt genuine advice. you will never be normal, you will never be happy and you will never have genuine friends or loving family or an actual human connection based on mutual respect and trust instead of what clout they can siphon off your gunt. you will die clinging onto the memory of your mother even though you know she hated you and only raised you and continued to support you before and after the killstream peak because she felt obligated, you'll cling to her and you'll cling to nora who only dated and married you for a green card and because she was a dumb innocent child who didnt know better than not to trust anyone that told her to just ignore alot of prohibitions or rules or morals, you'll do it because they're the closest you've come to approximating love. when it comes time for you to die you will remember and truly comprehend how utterly worthless you and your life have been to both yourself and others and you will cease to exist closing your barely open piggy eyes for the last time before the endless dreamless sleep having accomplished nothing, and having never experienced any form of love or affection that wasnt a cheap approximation paid for by the meager assets metokur gifted you.

 

[Terrorist]

Again, it depends on what you consider "fairly easy." To expand on my earlier post, he'll have to fight for it: Fai is probably going to get a family attorney, who is going to present the court with Ralph's history of substance abuse and violence including a felony against a cop. The attorney is going to use every text and message between Ralph, Fai, and Pantsu where they are trying to manipulate her into a midget-horse-teenager threesome, every stream where Ralph gets sauced AF on his show, and most recently, his dumb ass trip to the Digi-hovel and the retarded bitch-fight he instigated. In short, the attorney is going to throw down a mountain of evidence that shows Ralph is a clear and present danger to a child. If Ralph wants to fight, he's going to have to get his own Family Attorney, one who can practice CA law, and prove that he is not dangerous. IMO, at best, he can only get supervised visitation. Of course, this is assuming that her attorney doesn't produce the evidence of Ralph's role in the revenge porn to the court, which would be the smartest move, because then if Ralph decides to fight, he'd have to answer questions about it under oath (free advice, Vickers, you retard...you can thank me later).

But, even if he gets supervised visitation (yes, even crack heads get to see they bay-bays), he's going to have to do the things that are ordered of him by the court, and the visitation is going to have to happen in CA. No CA family court is going to make a young mother fly across the country to take the kid for visitation. Almost certainly, there is going to be a child support order UNLESS Ralph AND the court agrees to a termination of parental rights. If I understand correctly, the termination of parental rights terminates any parental obligations with those rights, so he won't have to pay child support, but he won't have anything to do with the kid ever again.

In CA, Ralph is absolutely going to get RAPED with child support. He's going to have to show the courts that he doesn't make much money, and of course the attorney is going to show all the shit that the Kiwi's have archived where he lists his income on official docs as $70,000 per year as a internet talk show host (or some shit like that). Either way, he'll be hammered with a payment that he can't afford. If he doesn't make the payment, he'll lose any visitation agreements that the court establishes. The irony, as I see it, is that if he somehow DOES make the payments (which, lets face it, he'll not only have to do to keep visitation but also avoid other legal consequences), then he'll have to afford regular flights and lodging in CA which he probably won't be able to afford because the child support will have him drained.

From a strictly "control-of-child" standpoint, this is a difficult situation for Fai to lose. But as you said, Ralph probably won't bother. So, the Million Maker's Mark question is: if you are Fai, knowing that Ralph can't/won't pay child support, do you give him the "out" and allow him to escape any fiscal responsibility for his kid so that you don't have to ever deal with him again? Or, do you go for the big hurt, and punish him as much as possible being fairly confident that he won't be able to come around his kid anyway.

If it were me, I would opt for choice number one. But, if Vickers has her ear, being the lunatic that he is, he's probably pushing for the big hurt.

EDIT: Federal Criminal Laws of child support may come into play here. 1 year or $5k in arrears is a misdemeanor, $10k or 2 years becomes a felony. That alone is probably enough for Ralph to not risk the trouble.

Vickers is a vengeful idiot, but he’ll pull out whenever there gets to be real consequences. He knows when to dig himself out of a hole, unlike Ralph. He got more than he bargained for by wading into the Guntsphere, and it scared him off. Now he probably wants Fai, Xander and himself to have nothing to do with these internet people any more.

 

[AltisticRight]

The Genius Anus leaks are still on his Twitter. Is this the one you are thinking of?View attachment 2120167

Yeah that's the one. Thanks for finding it before my lazy ass.
Well, I suppose I wasn't being 100% accurate. The gunt won't mind if Faith snuff the 14-week-old baby, he just don't want her to do it.

14 weeks is more than 3 fucking months, 1/3 through. Wouldn't mind, really? I can perhaps tolerate 14 days with a dozen asterisks attached. I'm pro-life but not necessarily anti-choice, none of my fucking business.

What a great Christian this piggy is. Wonder what Jesus said about being a deadbeat dad. The gunt needs to be smote.

 

[BlackShitPancakes]

Yeah that's the one. Thanks for finding it before my lazy ass.
Well, I suppose I wasn't being 100% accurate. The gunt won't mind if Faith snuff the 14-week-old baby, he just don't want her to do it.

14 weeks is more than 3 fucking months, 1/3 through. Wouldn't mind, really? I can perhaps tolerate 14 days with a dozen asterisks attached. I'm pro-life but not necessarily anti-choice, none of my fucking business.

What a great Christian this piggy is. Wonder what Jesus said about being a deadbeat dad. The gunt needs to be smote.

No problem. I'm blessed(cursed) with a photographic memory...but only when it comes to stupid, useless stuff that will never serve any purpose in my life at all.

 

[naught]

Im ecstatic for the coming of the lolcow anti-Christ who shall usher in a new era of lolcowdom.
Aren't you Mr Vickers?

 

[Chris Mclean]

This is a old idea because decades ago because only the biggest POS hardened dead beat could stand to know their child could go hungry or cold because they were too lazy to work and provide. Luckily for human waste like Ralph the govt stepped in and women started working so he won’t be troubled at night about providing for his son, that’s the gummit and that dumb whore’s job, not his!

White trash stopped getting their acts together after the arrival of a baby once Johnson’s war of poverty programs kicked in. I mean just look at Ralph’s old man. Like father, like son. Maybe Gunt Jr. will grow up one day to break the cycle or just troon out. Hard to say. Maybe having grandpa and four older uncles will do for him what Ralph can’t.

The effect is doubled by that he wont feel any social consquenses for it cause everyone is so disconnected from their community today and the community he has formed thinks its based and redpilled.

Moma Ralph is proably happy that the linage wont die with Ethan.
His fans and Gator thinks its a chad move to even have a kid.
The only one who might give him shit for it is Fedentes. But he hasnt cared about Ralphs other degeneracy so why would he start caring now.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

This is a old idea because decades ago because only the biggest POS hardened dead beat could stand to know their child could go hungry or cold because they were too lazy to work and provide. Luckily for human waste like Ralph the govt stepped in and women started working so he won’t be troubled at night about providing for his son, that’s the gummit and that dumb whore’s job, not his!

White trash stopped getting their acts together after the arrival of a baby once Johnson’s war of poverty programs kicked in. I mean just look at Ralph’s old man. Like father, like son. Maybe Gunt Jr. will grow up one day to break the cycle or just troon out. Hard to say. Maybe having grandpa and four older uncles will do for him what Ralph can’t.

Being raised by 5 Mr. Vickers, sure the kid will turn out fine

 

[AltisticRight]

Being raised by 5 Mr. Vickers, sure the kid will turn out fine

Damn, in no time, Rocklin Coin Shop will hold more domain names than godaddy.

 

[TriggerMeElmo]

Depending on how "trad" the Vickers are, there's a decent chance they might just give away Xander for adoption (although I strongly doubt this considering they've already named him, had blankets stitched with his name, but you never know). I don't think foster care is the likely option and obviously no one is aborting this retort.

I still have an inkling suspicion that what will occur is that this kid will be raised by Faith's parents and told his older sister is actually his mother to conceal the truth of his hellish creation and tell him the reality when he finally turns 18. "Your sister is a fucking idiot, sorry, but she's actually your mother". Many such cases. Sad!

 

[CeeShape]

will be a better childhood if faith does find a good man but with faiths track record i do not think it will happen so will rely on her parents supporting the baby
vickers and ralph being how they are fighting over the baby will be bad, hope for the baby that faith does find a good man and they disappear together raising the baby properly

but can faith attract a decent man?

 

[AltisticRight]

give away Xander for adoption

Xander "Columbine combined with 9/11 times ninety-seven" Vickers.

 

[goku123]

will be a better childhood if faith does find a good man but with faiths track record i do not think it will happen so will rely on her parents supporting the baby
vickers and ralph being how they are fighting over the baby will be bad, hope for the baby that faith does find a good man and they disappear together raising the baby properly

but can faith attract a decent man?

find a good man. a good man would stay away from faith if he could help it. think about it, imagine being a good man and the father of the baby seems like the type that would go to your front door and wigg out. at this point it's not even about good or bad, it's about self preservation.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

at the very least, he can save his son from trannification if he keeps some parental rights. he is gonna grow up in trannyfornia after all,

Except he’s currently fucking a pedo troon and almost all of his friends/associates are skeevy, unstable, sexual deviants.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

Imagine how salty Gunt would be if the son he didn’t claim grew up to be 6’ tall.