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Which is why Reagan and Nixon got elected?Maoists were and are a thing on the West Coast of California.
Which is why Reagan and Nixon got elected?Maoists were and are a thing on the West Coast of California.
The Chi-coms maniacal influence is political. Activist groups and the like. Influence and trouble for your enemies is easily bought here. Look at the tards who raise hell on this place with their disability checks and spouting insane bullshit on twitter. The Reds have it easy when it comes to fucking with the US.The japs aren't Communists by a long shot and unlike cheap chink shit, I own vintage sixties Japanese goods that were well made and still working to this day. You are right, the Chinese are copying the more successful Asian countries that came before them, what I'm saying is they're using communism, their particular brand of it, to ensure a monopoly in other countries, particularly the US, and to also weaken and decimate it.
And then...the outsourcing begins.Japan did it first. It started in the 1960's.
Asian tigers in the 80's.
Anyone else remember when ROK was a dictatorial shithole not worth a fuck? Now they make high-end consumer electronics and cars and shit.
The Chinese are just copying the script of much smarter people that came before them. That isn't about the Cold War or even the US (at least in that way). It's about the rest of the world advancing while the US is mired in it's own faults and unable to get out of it's own way.
This thread spawned out of the Rittenhouse one, right? So you are familiar with how expensive and fucked things get in the US when shit gets political, yeah? Well imagine you are a business with deep pockets and you want to exist and do business stuff. Guess what? Suddenly a bunch of people found a reason to make whatever it is you are doing political. Everything is a bajillion times more expensive now and timetables are fucked forever.
It's a miracle any business exists in this country at all, tbh. I have no goddamn idea how guys like Bezos made it. A shot at an unguarded net, I suppose. But the parasites will follow. It just takes some catching up but they will get there. We are already seeing the seeds planted by the parasite groups looking to mooch.
US manufacturing died the minute other countries figured out simplifying regulations and laws and throwing out frivolous legal BS is how you beat us. Handily. It lets them maximize staff towards production and limits their liabilities. Meanwhile, what are we doing? Hiring lawyers to fight over the pronouns of the WOC who arranges for the third party service to pick up the category 4 recyclables sorted into the blue dumpster at loading bay three. That could be a used bay for production, y'know. We just have to get all those people out of our way.
Assuming they're talking about SF and Oakland, they were the few places in CA to vote blue in 1980.Which is why Reagan and Nixon got elected?
And yet since 2008 we've seen a bunch of commie stuff pop up, while China has grown a lot as an international influence, coincidence?the chinese in the 60s and 70s were way too busy with internal issues to engage in sophisticated international subversive operations like that. western marxist clowns reading maos book and trying to emulate his ideas is a real thing yes, but it's not something that is pushed or coordinated by china itself.
ROK?Japan did it first. It started in the 1960's.
Asian tigers in the 80's.
Anyone else remember when ROK was a dictatorial shithole not worth a fuck? Now they make high-end consumer electronics and cars and shit.
The Chinese are just copying the script of much smarter people that came before them. That isn't about the Cold War or even the US (at least in that way). It's about the rest of the world advancing while the US is mired in it's own faults and unable to get out of it's own way.
This thread spawned out of the Rittenhouse one, right? So you are familiar with how expensive and fucked things get in the US when shit gets political, yeah? Well imagine you are a business with deep pockets and you want to exist and do business stuff. Guess what? Suddenly a bunch of people found a reason to make whatever it is you are doing political. Everything is a bajillion times more expensive now and timetables are fucked forever.
It's a miracle any business exists in this country at all, tbh. I have no goddamn idea how guys like Bezos made it. A shot at an unguarded net, I suppose. But the parasites will follow. It just takes some catching up but they will get there. We are already seeing the seeds planted by the parasite groups looking to mooch.
US manufacturing died the minute other countries figured out simplifying regulations and laws and throwing out frivolous legal BS is how you beat us. Handily. It lets them maximize staff towards production and limits their liabilities. Meanwhile, what are we doing? Hiring lawyers to fight over the pronouns of the WOC who arranges for the third party service to pick up the category 4 recyclables sorted into the blue dumpster at loading bay three. That could be a used bay for production, y'know. We just have to get all those people out of our way.
When would that have happened and what prevented it?The plan was to hand Europe over to Stalin, then the USA.
Republic of Korea. Specifically how their economy took off in the 80's after Park Chung-hee died.ROK?
Boomer memes from the 80s, really? My dad was an absolute commie true believer and he loved Nixon for opening the door to China. I'm not dissing on China the way some folks bashed and burned Toyotas in the 80s, I'm talking about the deliberate move to undercut and then move the entire manufacturing sector out of the USA. First it was NAFTA and when the changeover to Mexico was in progress the chinks came along and undercut them and now we have a situation where things are just not made in the US anymore. I got tired of buying cheap chink fans that were shit and couldn't be fixed when I learned the last manufacturer of fans in the US, Lakewood, closed shop in 2018 because of cheap chinese fans. Look at what happened with ventilators last summer, Trump had to invoke the Defense Act to force GM and others to produce them, because we don't make things anymore, it has moved to China.The Chi-coms maniacal influence is political. Activist groups and the like. Influence and trouble for your enemies is easily bought here. Look at the tards who raise hell on this place with their disability checks and spouting insane bullshit on twitter. The Reds have it easy when it comes to fucking with the US.
What I'm getting at is their manufacturing sector, while it may benefit from it, isn't the root cause. You are just recycling boomer memes from the 80's with Tojo swapped for Chairman Mao. That problem is ours and it existed while they were still really really communist. Like, Cultural Revolution Communist. Mao was forward thinking but he wasn't that forward thinking. It wasn't his plan at all to have it work out this way.
Also, lol. Back to the Future is accurate. Japanese stuff was regarded as junk until the 80's. I love my old Japanese motorcycles but they are crude af. So much so that I can get Chinese knockoff parts on Amazon for cheap and they are as good as OEM. Sometimes they are even still Japanese made. I about shit myself when the $10 carb I bought for my Honda E22 engine had "Japan" cast into the side of it. No fucking way they could make that in the US for $10. Fuck, you couldn't sell US-made rebuild kits for that and they ship those in envelopes with a goddamn stamp for postage.
If you look at the traitorous scum in Congress , eg Feinstein, Pelosi, Swalwell, the ones calling the shots come from the Bay Area. Bankrolled by the Getty family, rolling in the riches from their investments in China.Assuming they're talking about SF and Oakland, they were the few places in CA to vote blue in 1980.
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And I'm saying the movement of manufacturing away from the US well predates NAFTA (why is that in your China argument anyways?) to a time when China was a fucking mess. If it wasn't China we would buy our shit from somewhere else. They didn't take away American jobs, those got shipped to Japan and the Asian tigers years before.I'm not dissing on China the way some folks bashed and burned Toyotas in the 80s, I'm talking about the deliberate move to undercut and then move the entire manufacturing sector out of the USA. First it was NAFTA and when the changeover to Mexico was in progress the chinks came along and undercut them and now we have a situation where things are just not made in the US anymore. I got tired of buying cheap chink fans that were shit and couldn't be fixed when I learned the last manufacturer of fans in the US, Lakewood, closed shop in 2018 because of cheap chinese fans. Look at what happened with ventilators last summer, Trump had to invoke the Defense Act to force GM and others to produce them, because we don't make things anymore, it has moved to China.
Agree, and things like the historikerstreit would be absolutely unthinkable today. Nolte would be arrested as a nazi today.You have some good ideas here, but a lot of what we have now came out of the student movement in the 60s. At first Germany just wanted to be a Western country and actually aspired to be quite libertarian. It all started to go downhill with the Frankfurt School in the 60s. Germany had quite an intellectual tradition, but that died with the First World War and the nazis basically killed it outright- room for the left to get in. Adorno, but more so Marcuse and Horkheimer riled up young students, especially women, and made them protest in the streets for communism and to make the crimes of their parents visisble (Germany had a similar policy to Japan before and the Gdr actually maintained it to the end, which is why the East is far right today). The carrot to get this particular stick through was sexual liberty. German society was quite stuck up. After that Germany began to basically flagellate itself, but it escalated in the second half of the 2010s. We always copy American trends and many affluent kids were schooled in America. They returned and are now part of our institutions. The problem here is that our institutions were libertarian first and thus advanced talent. They worked too well for our current good and Westgermans developed a deep trust of institutions, titles and authority. The leftist exploit that shamelessly now.
The East is a stark contrast. Ther Gdr was always patreiotic if not downright racist. The people in the East still have pride and coinfidence. Due to the commies beign bad liars they developed a sense of distrust towards authorities in general.
Hard disagree. US involvement in WW2 was an attempt from the beginning to establish itself as the world power. And they quite effectively did it post war. Economically via the marshall plan, GATT, bretton woods and the IMF. Culturally via the UN and UNESCO (which is actually the source of modern cosmopolitan "world citizen" globalist thought, itself an outgrowth of WASP ascendance through the british and american empires.) and militarily via NATO and the japs and koreans. Oh yes, the puppet leaders the US installed were all jumping on US cock, what a surprise! It's not like you had a campaign of denazification, total destruction of civilian infrastructure and plunder of technology, before installing handpicked leaders, subverting the local media with the CIA, and essentially economically vassalizing the western germans through the marshallplan and GATT.The Wessies were jumping all over US cock 1945-1989. Don't act like it was the US taking advantage of them.
The "nice" way has always been the US way. European style would be a short punitive campaign or actual establishment of european controlled government. Its typically Anglo to attempt the entire "hearts and minds". The boots on the ground might have been european in that part of the operation, but the idea was anglo-american. And that was because NATO forced europe to cooperate in the american-russian pissing contest that was the nth phase of the great game.Coulda just went in HULK SMASH then left their shit a smoking ruin and gone home to drink beer and fuck the prom queen. But noooooooo we had to give a fuck what the pissbaby euros think. So we did it their way. The "nice" way. And now you fuckers are acting like it was our idea and we led that shit. We led the smashy-smashy part, sure. You fucks ran the "hearts and minds" campaign. How many of your deployed people were combat troops? How many were training staff and security? Be honest.
They've poisoned your mind, Dom.People were scared of nuclear war and felt like radical change in the form of peace and love had to happen to prevent it, the peace sign was originally specifically an anti-nuke statement.
As much as we like to bemoan hippies radically changing America, it's entirely possible that had the US stayed in that uncompromising '50s mindset we would have ultimately had WW3 and I don't know about you, but for all the faults of the present day at least it's not irradiated wasteland.
All I'm saying is it makes it more understandable why what happened, happened.They've poisoned your mind, Dom.
My family dates all the way back to German Silesia, the West was spiritually lobotomized and the East was intellectually lobotomized by the study of the role played by the heroes of the class struggle during Prussia's industrialization. There is something about the study of only the Little Men of History, forcing people to see only the reaction to History's great shifts rather than the great shifts themselves, that spiritually hollows a people into a depressed and darkened folk.The Wessies were jumping all over US cock 1945-1989.
Fool America once, shame on the EU and NATO. Fool America twice, shame on America. I don't think America will nation build again, so I don't know what America will do the next time. Maybe take up peace? Forge a solid American Identity which everyone domestically can accept? Hardly, the fires of war will return and America has no plan except not to be seen to do the stupid thing. Staffed by freaks and geeks. America might lose a war, and we wind up in the Starship Troopers timeline?the reason Afghanistan became a "nation building" exercise was because it became an international cause celebre to "fix" it with NATO. Not the US alone. NATO specifically. The Europeans would handle it. The boorish Americans would just cut and run (which we should have done, fuck their shit up and go home). Nonono.
The peace sign is a psyop.the peace sign was originally specifically an anti-nuke statement.
..and then the conservatives came with their mercy and everything became rather strange. Especially the conservatives who all learned nothing about California going blue.Assuming they're talking about SF and Oakland, they were the few places in CA to vote blue in 1980.
I wish people would feel about nuclear war as they do about ground wars of terrible human cost, quick disgust followed by quick return to normal. Nuclear War has brought us a peace, where previously war was getting more and more total than ever before.Imagine you lived in the post Cuban Missile Crisis 1960s, would you not be sympathetic to a movement all about peace and love at a time when war could mean nuclear war?