MCU Television Series on Disney + - WandaVision, FATWS, Loki, etc

[starborn427614]

That's barely half of what they had him doing, and that's if you count him talking to Bradley. Him and Sam breaking each others balls was focused on far more than any Kangz sentiment.

The stuff with Bradley was arguably some of the strongest parts of the show too IMO

 

[StarkRavingMad]

That's barely half of what they had him doing, and that's if you count him talking to Bradley. Him and Sam breaking each others balls was focused on far more than any Kangz sentiment.

Ok, while we're on that topic ... The arguments/banter the two of them had were overtly drawn out and the opposite of entertaining or captivating to watch.

These two survived Thanos, for crying out loud ... And now they just bicker at every little thing while Disney tells us that's supposed to be cute, or something. They've become less interesting or engaging characters because of the show.

The best episode of the series for me was the first episode. It seriously felt like the only episode of the show that felt like a proper followup to Infinity War and Endgame.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Based Mackie at it again, tells homoshippers to tone it the fuck down and thinks it's weird dudes just can't be friends anymore.

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/anthony-mackie-sam-bucky-friendship-bromance-falcon-winter-soldier

Over the spring, fans everywhere got to watch the development of one of the most unconventional heroic bonds in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, as The Falcon and the Winter Soldier gave us six episodes of evolution for Sam Wilson and Bucky Barnes. Now that bond is stronger than ever, but if you ask star Anthony Mackie, trying to label their relationship feels a little reductive.

Each character was introduced to the MCU as a close friend to Steve Rogers, united by their connection to Captain America but divided by different eras, different backgrounds, and different struggles. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier showed us how the two men began to bridge those divides in the wake of Steve's absence from their narrative, as Bucky worked to make amends for past wrongs and Sam worked to get out from under the shadow of his own idea of what Captain America should be.

Naturally, watching Sam and Bucky get closer over the course of six episodes on Disney+ fostered plenty of fan response, as viewers responded to the characters both individually and as a unit. And as with so many things, the connection between Sam and Bucky forged a 'shipping fandom, as viewers everywhere drew romantic links between the men in their own minds, no matter how indirectly the show may have suggested such things.

Speaking with Variety's Awards Circuit podcast, Mackie -- who, by the end of the show, had fulfilled a dream by stepping into his own version of the Captain America costume -- explained his take on the fans who've drawn homoerotic ties between the characters. While he seems to understand the connection, Mackie noted that he's also wary about labeling it a romantic one, as he explained:

“So many things are twisted and convoluted. There’s so many things that people latch on to with their own devices to make themselves relevant and rational,” Mackie said. “The idea of two guys being friends and loving each other in 2021 is a problem because of the exploitation of homosexuality. It used to be guys can be friends, we can hang out, and it was cool. You would always meet your friends at the bar, you know. You can’t do that anymore, because something as pure and beautiful as homosexuality has been exploited by people who are trying to rationalize themselves. So something that’s always been very important to me is showing a sensitive masculine figure. There’s nothing more masculine than being a superhero and flying around and beating people up. But there’s nothing more sensitive than having emotional conversations and a kindred spirit friendship with someone that you care about and love.”

Mackie's response to the pairing of Sam and Bucky in the minds of fans seems to be less about the 'shipping aspect and more about rebuking homophobic responses that might write off the broader spectrum of connection between two men, and of course nothing is stopping fans from developing their own headcanon between the characters. For Mackie, though, it's another version of the dynamic between Sam and Steve back in the days of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, albeit with a longer journey to acceptance.

“Sam and Steve had a relationship where they admired, appreciated and loved each other,” Mackie said. “Bucky and Sam have a relationship where they learn how to accept, appreciate and love each other. You’d call it a bromance, but it’s literally just two guys who have each other’s backs.”

As with so many other major franchises in modern pop culture, the Marvel Cinematic Universe has taken flack for "queerbaiting" with various characters, suggesting LGBTQ+ characters without ever actually depicting them, or depicting them in passing without allowing them to be the stars of their own stories. While it's not happening in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, though, the MCU is finally set to introduce an LGBTQ+ superhero in Eternals later this year. As for Sam and Bucky and their sensitive male bond, they'll hopefully pick up where they left off in the developing fourth Captain America film from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier writer Malcolm Spellman.

 

[Seventh Star]

Based Mackie at it again, tells homoshippers to tone it the fuck down and thinks it's weird dudes just can't be friends anymore.

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/anthony-mackie-sam-bucky-friendship-bromance-falcon-winter-soldier

Thats not the vibe I got from it but then again he's probably trying to not appear unwoke.

 

[starborn427614]

Based Mackie at it again, tells homoshippers to tone it the fuck down and thinks it's weird dudes just can't be friends anymore.

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/anthony-mackie-sam-bucky-friendship-bromance-falcon-winter-soldier

He's not wrong, per se. It does get annoying when anyone is shipped regardless of actual romantic intention.

 

[UnKillShredDur]

Based Mackie at it again, tells homoshippers to tone it the fuck down and thinks it's weird dudes just can't be friends anymore.

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/anthony-mackie-sam-bucky-friendship-bromance-falcon-winter-soldier

He'd have more cred saying that without the weirdo psychologist in his show who made him and Bucky straddle eachother in one of the first episodes. Even in the context of the show that was gay as hell.

 

[The Valeyard]

Now they are going to be shipping Loki and Mobius.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Now they are going to be shipping Loki and Mobius.

Stay tuned. They're going to be shipping Loki with himself by the end of next week.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Lol the bare minimum. Tbh idgaf about his sexuality but lmao loki

 

[starborn427614]

We told Loki to go fuck himself and he did, the absolute mad lad!

 

[Just Dont]

They made Loki a faggot!

Spoiler: FAGGOT!!!

Only 3 episodes in and they already started with their weird gender queer lgbtq shit. Now They are going to make him commit interdimensional incest.

I'm tired of all my entertainment have that layer of degeneracy like its fucking normal.

 

[cactus]

Back in the 90s, we would have just gotten a gay joke.

 

[starborn427614]

They made Loki a faggot!

Spoiler: FAGGOT!!!

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Only 3 episodes in and they already started with their weird gender queer lgbtq shit. Now They are going to make him commit interdimensional incest.

I'm tired of all my entertainment have that layer of degeneracy like its fucking normal.

Loki got fucked by a horse in Norse mythology and gave birth to Odin's steed. If this is your threshold for degeneracy I don't know what to tell you.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

They heavily implied Loki was fucking the Grandmaster in Ragnarok anyway.

Plus he just looks like a fagot to begin with.

 

[Screamer]

They made Loki a faggot!

Spoiler: FAGGOT!!!

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Only 3 episodes in and they already started with their weird gender queer lgbtq shit. Now They are going to make him commit interdimensional incest.

I'm tired of all my entertainment have that layer of degeneracy like its fucking normal.

The director of the series is a bisexual woman. Who has stated

From the moment I joined @LokiOfficial it was very important to me, and my goal, to acknowledge Loki was bisexual. It is a part of who he is and who I am too.

I suspect the reason we got such a bad episode, is that they ended up deciding it was the episode we reveal Loki is bisexual. Over how the episode services the plot and pacing of the series.

Possibly it was intended to be this frantic trapped on a planet about to be destroyed story point where the Lokis had to work together. Which then just got sidetracked, had the pace ruined to find a way to drop the reference to Loki being gay. So the imminent threat and danger disappears. In order for them to take a train ride on a train from Canto Bite.

The start and end feel consistent. The imminent threat, chaos. The entire middle section feels like it was just slotted in. A couple of little bits of information were dropped, but it's so little that could have happened anywhere.

 

[Muppetstudios]

Been watching the series and enjoyed it. It had gotten criticised for being a big SJW show but watching the last episode it makes me think about big government and banality of evil. Enjoyed how in the credits shows filling in forms and spreadsheets showing how the mindless compliance promotes dictatorship

 

[Empresa]

It has potential I like what I saw so far. esp. when Loki abandoned the TVA to go with the variant.

 

[Wowcoolusername]

I really liked the bank robbery scene. The show is a little gratuitous with the explosions, but it has top notch car chases and shoot outs. The training montages got me really pumped up. I cried a little tear of joy at the end when Loki got the girl and saved the youth center, though.

 

[starborn427614]

I really liked the bank robbery scene. The show is a little gratuitous with the explosions, but it has top notch car chases and shoot outs. The training montages got me really pumped up. I cried a little tear of joy at the end when Loki got the girl and saved the youth center, though.

Got me for a second there.

 

[LolRaccoon]

If it turns out that the guy behind the TVA is non other than my nigga Kang the Conqueror, I will bust a fat nut