Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believes Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. Filed 5 lawsuits and lost 5 lawsuits.

[Chariot Of Mara]

K. So taking into context the rest of your post, the Torah also doesn't explicitly condemn sexual relations between adults and children. Does that mean it's okay since it's God's law?

The Torah doesn’t mention hentai either, but no worries. Religious scholar Melinda here declared hentai has a big fat stamp of “Torah Approved.” What would we ever do without her wisdom.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

The Torah doesn’t mention hentai either, but no worries. Religious scholar Melinda here declared hentai has a big fat stamp of “Torah Approved.”

Totally unrelated picture:

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

The Torah doesn’t mention hentai either, but no worries. Religious scholar Melinda here declared hentai has a big fat stamp of “Torah Approved.” What would we ever do without her wisdom.

Da'as Torah!

 

[Deadpool]

I could say but I can't say anything that would give the defendants an edge.

You not knowing who I am or where I live and thus not being able to serve me is a hell of an edge. (Here comes the vague lie claiming she has my personal info.)

They already have an edge. They’re being sued by a moron who has, at best, a tenuous grasp on how the law actually works.

Also this.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

(Here comes the vague lie claiming she has my personal info.)

Everybody knows you are Wade Wilson. Well, everybody but Melinda, she still tries to serve Peter Parker.

 

[Deadpool]

Everybody knows you are Wade Wilson. Well, everybody but Melinda, she still tries to serve Peter Parker.

Poor Peter. When he's not fighting flesh eating symbiotes or being harassed by J.J.J he's being sued by a literal retard.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Poor Peter. When he's not fighting flesh eating symbiotes or being harassed by J.J.J he's being sued by a literal retard.

To be honest, he does have his darker side...


...so it's not all moping and identity crisis...

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

K. So taking into context the rest of your post, the Torah also doesn't explicitly condemn sexual relations between adults and children. Does that mean it's okay since it's God's law?

I would say "no", and here is my reasoning (three parts):

BY EXAMPLE:
After Tamar's second evil husband died - the "Tamar" of Gen. 38, btw - she was promised to marry the next surviving brother. His name was Selah. He was under the age of 20. It is an example of nobody thinking an older woman, younger man marriage was wrong. It's interesting because lots of people always say that "in the old days" there were mostly "older man, younger woman" marriages, and this story shows otherwise.

Well anyways, Tamar is told to wait in her father's house to marry Selah "until [he] grows up" (verse 11). It says that Judah didn't want Selah to die like the other brothers. The Apocrypha also say that Judah's wife, who was a Goy (Canaanite), didn't want Tamar to marry Selah. Even though Genesis says Judah wanted to hide Selah and the Apocrypha say that Judah's Goy wife didn't want Selah to marry Tamar, the fact remains that they mention Selah's age as a factor in the conversation: that he needed to grow up to adulthood before he could begin having relations with her/marry her.

BY ANALYSIS:

The Torah says that "heaven and earth are a witness". That's in Deut. 30. The natural order of things leads us to Truth. A person under the age of 20 does not have the emotional and mental maturity to enter into a marriage covenant. Nature shows us it's not a good idea.

The Torah commands that a man and woman are to CLEAVE (Gen. 2:24). Husband-wife marriages aren't just sexual. The Torah says that they are to have an emotional and mental component. A teenage girl or teenage boy is not going to be able to emotionally cleave to an adult. Their frame of mind is completely different. It's an emotional/mental mis-match that makes cleaving impossible. Adults should marry (have relations with) adults, period.

I have actually met and heard Messianic men who believe that there is nothing wrong with an adult male marrying a teenage girl. I don't agree with them. Again, nature shows us why. For one, a teenage girl is not prepared to be a mother. Sex leads to procreation and teenage girls do not have the emotional and mental maturity to be a mother. The breasts of a teenage girl even show this: the collagen in teenage breasts is too firm to facilitate breastfeeding sideways, which is important for mothers to get rest (you can't always sit up at night, you'll be exhausted). Breastfeeding is a major responsibility and not one that teenage girls are ready for.

In a study of adolescent girls age 14-21, nearly all the girls were unable to breastfeed despite most of them initiating it:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3755029/

I think that people can get engaged before the age of 20 but should not begin having relations/get married until adulthood. So while there is no direct command against any age of engagement or marrying "heaven and earth are a witness". Nature gives us the clues.

BY USE OF HEBREW:

In nearly all examples in The Hebrew Bible speaking about young women marrying, the word בְּתוּלָה (betulah) is used for girls. This is often translated as "virgin" but many scholars state that it also means "young woman". Regardless, one thing is clear: it does not mean "child". This shows that ancient Israelite culture believed marrying (having relations) was for adulthood, not teenagers.

Also, when speaking of Bridegrooms, the word for men used is בָּחוּר. This means "a [choice] young man". Again, you don't see a "child" who is a male being married off.

There are more civilized ways of dealing with this kind of situation. Violence is a caveman's solution.

The Torah says otherwise: "The adulterer and adulteress shall be put to death"

Thank you for responding but I think you're completely full of shit. I'm not trying to be mean to you by saying that, if I think someone's full of shit I'll just say it so we can figure it out and move past it. No need to take it personally, I just think you're completely full of shit.

I am not listed as a defendant, how am I sabotaging you? We're just having a bizarre conversation on this bizarre website.

You don't truly understand that the reason why you have a thread here is because of your own actions, do you? You're completely convinced that it's all someone else's fault that you have a thread here, aren't you? Let's look at the sequence of events:

1. Andrew Carlson is given a thread on KF, your name is mentioned in the OP because his obsession with you (among other things) is what brought him to KF's attention.
2. You take real issue with your name being listed in the OP, you contact Null trying to threaten him into removing your name from the site (bad move, when you're at the mercy of others it's always good to be nice/respectful/polite).
3. Null laughs at you (which is a totally appropriate response to your nonsense imo) and provides encouragement/feedback on how to more competently sue him. Based. AF.
4. Null not taking you seriously and giving you advice on how to more competently sue him really grinds your gears, lmao. BY ELOHIM'S PENOR, JUSTICE MUST PREVAIL, UNLEASH THE IFP REQUESTS, IT'S LAWYERIN' TIME!
5. You sue KF, not just once but like 2-3 times.
6. You are given your own thread.

I might be wrong about some of it, but that's really the basic gist of it, yes? If you notice, item #1 was the only event completely out of your control.

Andrew didn't just mention you, he also mentioned his other family members like his brother. Did his bro show up to start threatening Null? No! Because from #2 and on (basically like your entire involvement) you display a recurring, persistent lack of judgement and maturity.

You demonstrate a very unsettling level of pettiness and hostility. No one needs to sabotage you, Melinda. You do a better job of it than any of us ever could. If you had just pretended to be a big girl and not a little fruitcake with their panties in a twist then you'd never been given your very own thread (probably).

There's a lot of attempts at gaslighting me going on in your response here above.

But again, I have to refrain from giving my honest opinion until the litigation is over.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

The Torah says otherwise: "The adulterer and adulteress shall be put to death"

As I said, for me it's nothing more than a cultural and historical artifact from different times, not something to live by or take life advice from.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

In a study of adolescent girls age 14-21, nearly all the girls were unable to breastfeed despite most of them initiating it:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3755029/

Context. The girls that stopped(breastfeeded less), were abused. The study concluded was that if a woman does something, and you beat her after, she stops doing it. They did also conclude that if a better alternative is available, a woman will take it, especially when it leads to her not being beaten (or if their nipples hurt(in context of breastfeeding))

But again, I have to refrain from giving my honest opinion until the litigation is over.

You don't, and you have never bothered to refrain before

 

[Melissa Sanchez]

I would say "no", and here is my reasoning (three parts):

BY EXAMPLE:
After Tamar's second evil husband died - the "Tamar" of Gen. 38, btw - she was promised to marry the next surviving brother. His name was Selah. He was under the age of 20. It is an example of nobody thinking an older woman, younger man marriage was wrong. It's interesting because lots of people always say that "in the old days" there were mostly "older man, younger woman" marriages, and this story shows otherwise.

Well anyways, Tamar is told to wait in her father's house to marry Selah "until [he] grows up" (verse 11). It says that Judah didn't want Selah to die like the other brothers. The Apocrypha also say that Judah's wife, who was a Goy (Canaanite), didn't want Tamar to marry Selah. Even though Genesis says Judah wanted to hide Selah and the Apocrypha say that Judah's Goy wife didn't want Selah to marry Tamar, the fact remains that they mention Selah's age as a factor in the conversation: that he needed to grow up to adulthood before he could begin having relations with her/marry her.

BY ANALYSIS:

The Torah says that "heaven and earth are a witness". That's in Deut. 30. The natural order of things leads us to Truth. A person under the age of 20 does not have the emotional and mental maturity to enter into a marriage covenant. Nature shows us it's not a good idea.

The Torah commands that a man and woman are to CLEAVE (Gen. 2:24). Husband-wife marriages aren't just sexual. The Torah says that they are to have an emotional and mental component. A teenage girl or teenage boy is not going to be able to emotionally cleave to an adult. Their frame of mind is completely different. It's an emotional/mental mis-match that makes cleaving impossible. Adults should marry (have relations with) adults, period.

I have actually met and heard Messianic men who believe that there is nothing wrong with an adult male marrying a teenage girl. I don't agree with them. Again, nature shows us why. For one, a teenage girl is not prepared to be a mother. Sex leads to procreation and teenage girls do not have the emotional and mental maturity to be a mother. The breasts of a teenage girl even show this: the collagen in teenage breasts is too firm to facilitate breastfeeding sideways, which is important for mothers to get rest (you can't always sit up at night, you'll be exhausted). Breastfeeding is a major responsibility and not one that teenage girls are ready for.

In a study of adolescent girls age 14-21, nearly all the girls were unable to breastfeed despite most of them initiating it:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3755029/

I think that people can get engaged before the age of 20 but should not begin having relations/get married until adulthood. So while there is no direct command against any age of engagement or marrying "heaven and earth are a witness". Nature gives us the clues.

BY USE OF HEBREW:

In nearly all examples in The Hebrew Bible speaking about young women marrying, the word בְּתוּלָה (betulah) is used for girls. This is often translated as "virgin" but many scholars state that it also means "young woman". Regardless, one thing is clear: it does not mean "child". This shows that ancient Israelite culture believed marrying (having relations) was for adulthood, not teenagers.

Also, when speaking of Bridegrooms, the word for men used is בָּחוּר. This means "a [choice] young man". Again, you don't see a "child" who is a male being married off.



The Torah says otherwise: "The adulterer and adulteress shall be put to death"





There's a lot of attempts at gaslighting me going on in your response here above.

But again, I have to refrain from giving my honest opinion until the litigation is over.

No one cares you fucking bitch

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Context. The girls that stopped(breastfeeded less), were abused. The study concluded was that if a woman does something, and you beat her after, she stops doing it. They did also conclude that if a better alternative is available, a woman will take it, especially when it leads to her not being beaten (or if their nipples hurt(in context of breastfeeding))

You don't, and you have never bothered to refrain before

@TamarYaelBatYah failed to read another link she posted? I'm shocked!

How the fuck does this woman expect to get a Masters let alone a PhD?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

@TamarYaelBatYah failed to read another link she posted? I'm shocked!

Come on! Don't be so hard on her! She read the first two lines of the "results" section!

How the fuck does this woman expect to get a Masters let alone a PhD?

She's a commie, so she expects the gov will just give it to her no issue

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Come on! Don't be so hard on her! She read the first two lines of the "results" section!

That's some really bad dyslexia. @TamarYaelBatYah, you should get that checked out.

 

[Deadpool]

I would say "no", and here is my reasoning (three parts):

BY EXAMPLE:
After Tamar's second evil husband died - the "Tamar" of Gen. 38, btw - she was promised to marry the next surviving brother. His name was Selah. He was under the age of 20. It is an example of nobody thinking an older woman, younger man marriage was wrong. It's interesting because lots of people always say that "in the old days" there were mostly "older man, younger woman" marriages, and this story shows otherwise.

Well anyways, Tamar is told to wait in her father's house to marry Selah "until [he] grows up" (verse 11). It says that Judah didn't want Selah to die like the other brothers. The Apocrypha also say that Judah's wife, who was a Goy (Canaanite), didn't want Tamar to marry Selah. Even though Genesis says Judah wanted to hide Selah and the Apocrypha say that Judah's Goy wife didn't want Selah to marry Tamar, the fact remains that they mention Selah's age as a factor in the conversation: that he needed to grow up to adulthood before he could begin having relations with her/marry her.

BY ANALYSIS:

The Torah says that "heaven and earth are a witness". That's in Deut. 30. The natural order of things leads us to Truth. A person under the age of 20 does not have the emotional and mental maturity to enter into a marriage covenant. Nature shows us it's not a good idea.

The Torah commands that a man and woman are to CLEAVE (Gen. 2:24). Husband-wife marriages aren't just sexual. The Torah says that they are to have an emotional and mental component. A teenage girl or teenage boy is not going to be able to emotionally cleave to an adult. Their frame of mind is completely different. It's an emotional/mental mis-match that makes cleaving impossible. Adults should marry (have relations with) adults, period.

I have actually met and heard Messianic men who believe that there is nothing wrong with an adult male marrying a teenage girl. I don't agree with them. Again, nature shows us why. For one, a teenage girl is not prepared to be a mother. Sex leads to procreation and teenage girls do not have the emotional and mental maturity to be a mother. The breasts of a teenage girl even show this: the collagen in teenage breasts is too firm to facilitate breastfeeding sideways, which is important for mothers to get rest (you can't always sit up at night, you'll be exhausted). Breastfeeding is a major responsibility and not one that teenage girls are ready for.

In a study of adolescent girls age 14-21, nearly all the girls were unable to breastfeed despite most of them initiating it:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3755029/

I think that people can get engaged before the age of 20 but should not begin having relations/get married until adulthood. So while there is no direct command against any age of engagement or marrying "heaven and earth are a witness". Nature gives us the clues.

BY USE OF HEBREW:

In nearly all examples in The Hebrew Bible speaking about young women marrying, the word בְּתוּלָה (betulah) is used for girls. This is often translated as "virgin" but many scholars state that it also means "young woman". Regardless, one thing is clear: it does not mean "child". This shows that ancient Israelite culture believed marrying (having relations) was for adulthood, not teenagers.

Also, when speaking of Bridegrooms, the word for men used is בָּחוּר. This means "a [choice] young man". Again, you don't see a "child" who is a male being married off.



The Torah says otherwise: "The adulterer and adulteress shall be put to death"





There's a lot of attempts at gaslighting me going on in your response here above.

But again, I have to refrain from giving my honest opinion until the litigation is over.

tl:dr. Kill yourself, skank.

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

Context. The girls that stopped(breastfeeded less), were abused. The study concluded was that if a woman does something, and you beat her after, she stops doing it. They did also conclude that if a better alternative is available, a woman will take it, especially when it leads to her not being beaten (or if their nipples hurt(in context of breastfeeding))

Violence from a SO was only one factor.

Other factors included: "Pain during breastfeeding and difficulties with latching, fatigue, milk supply, and medical complications are common reported barriers to breastfeeding as is embarrassment related to breastfeeding outside the home and returning to work or school"

All I'm saying is that I think it's best for teenage girls to not have sex so they have a chance to finish growing up before they have to take on the big responsibility of motherhood.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Violence from a SO was only one factor.

Other factors included: "Pain during breastfeeding and difficulties with latching, fatigue, milk supply, and medical complications are common reported barriers to breastfeeding as is embarrassment related to breastfeeding outside the home and returning to work or school"

All I'm saying is that I think it's best for teenage girls to not have sex so they have a chance to finish growing up before they have to take on the big responsibility of motherhood.

When are you going to fully read the articles you link? You know, if you have a laptop that can handle Foxit Reader, you can have it read an article for you as long as you make it a .pdf. You can also get extensions for various browsers and even a site called ttsreader to help you with your reading difficulty. Happy to help

 

[fnaarf]

All I'm saying is that I think it's best for teenage girls to not have sex so they have a chance to finish growing up before they have to take on the big responsibility of motherhood.

I mean, you're right, but that still doesn't mean you can read.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

All I'm saying is that I think it's best for teenage girls to not have sex so they have a chance to finish growing up before they have to take on the big responsibility of motherhood.

How comes you sometimes post some sensible things like this statement above, only to say some really weird stuff like "death penalty for adultery based on religious courts" a few posts earlier?

 

[Toasty]

All I'm saying is that I think it's best for teenage girls to not have sex so they have a chance to finish growing up before they have to take on the big responsibility of motherhood.

Melinda, pulling the do as I say, not as I do.