Artcow Michael John Kricfalusi / John Kricfalusi / John K. / John K. Stuff / Raymond Spum - scammer animator who pissed away his own career, salty blogger, CONFIRMED predator and child rapist

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Siryakko212

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Speaking of torturing eyeballs, here is some of John's more recent stuff.

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Auteurism is not really applicable to animation, and especially not TV animation, so all this was pretty much laughable on its face even in its time - even if few people realized it.
Miyazaki exists.
 

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It's more applicable in theatrical animation, but animation in general is a very collaborative art. Auteurism as generally imagined doesn't really apply to it.
Movies in general require actors literally physically enacting the script. I don't see how it would apply less to animation, at least in general principle. You can farm out all the actual animation to the Philippines. That said, I can't really think of anyone but Miyazaki, or even Disney at his height, who actually earned the title.
 

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Movies in general require actors literally physically enacting the script. I don't see how it would apply less to animation, at least in general principle. You can farm out all the actual animation to the Philippines. That said, I can't really think of anyone but Miyazaki, or even Disney at his height, who actually earned the title.
Miyazaki maybe. Disney not so much. He knew how to promote himself, but the work of directing those films was generally done by other people.
 

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Miyazaki maybe. Disney not so much. He knew how to promote himself, but the work of directing those films was generally done by other people.
His overarching vision more or less set the stage for most of Western animation for a generation even after he died. You don't win more Oscars than any other person who ever lived without that level of presence in culture.

I wish there were an "I agree with your facts but not necessarily your conclusion" rating.
 

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His overarching vision more or less set the stage for most of Western animation for a generation even after he died. You don't win more Oscars than any other person who ever lived without that level of presence in culture.

I wish there were an "I agree with your facts but not necessarily your conclusion" rating.
It was his overarching vision but there was a shitload of people who did the work for him to realize that vision - the people who directed the films, wrote the comics, designed the rides. Walt didn't do that much in the grand scheme of things.

This is what I mean about auteurism and animation. It's one of the most collaborative art forms there is. There's a reason discussions of the auteur theory are pretty much entirely about live-action films.
 

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It was his overarching vision but there was a shitload of people who did the work for him to realize that vision - the people who directed the films, wrote the comics, designed the rides. Walt didn't do that much in the grand scheme of things.

This is what I mean about auteurism and animation. It's one of the most collaborative art forms there is. There's a reason discussions of the auteur theory are pretty much entirely about live-action films.
I think it has a lot more to do with the fact that people are willing to entertain a concept like auteur theory in a form of art that is considered more "serious," even if it actually isn't. It has more to do with the creator putting a personal imprimatur on the ultimate result than the specific form the work takes.

Miyazaki's work is considered srs bzns so he gets to be an auteur, nobody else does, though. Even if in actuality, a lot of animation actually is mainly directed by one person, who farms out the work to people in no position to tell him otherwise.

John K portrayed himself in this way, even though it was more by just stealing the credit for everything everyone else did than by being personally responsible for it. In many cases, his "contribution" was actually negative and was just harassing and annoying the people actually doing the work.

If this weren't true, his works after the original, where he apparently had something more like total control, would have been better and not vastly worse.
 

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Auteurism is not really applicable to animation, and especially not TV animation, so all this was pretty much laughable on its face even in its time - even if few people realized it.

Miyazaki exists.

It's more applicable in theatrical animation, but animation in general is a very collaborative art. Auteurism as generally imagined doesn't really apply to it.

Movies in general require actors literally physically enacting the script. I don't see how it would apply less to animation, at least in general principle. You can farm out all the actual animation to the Philippines. That said, I can't really think of anyone but Miyazaki, or even Disney at his height, who actually earned the title.

Miyazaki maybe. Disney not so much. He knew how to promote himself, but the work of directing those films was generally done by other people.

His overarching vision more or less set the stage for most of Western animation for a generation even after he died. You don't win more Oscars than any other person who ever lived without that level of presence in culture.

I wish there were an "I agree with your facts but not necessarily your conclusion" rating.

It was his overarching vision but there was a shitload of people who did the work for him to realize that vision - the people who directed the films, wrote the comics, designed the rides. Walt didn't do that much in the grand scheme of things.

This is what I mean about auteurism and animation. It's one of the most collaborative art forms there is. There's a reason discussions of the auteur theory are pretty much entirely about live-action films.

I think it has a lot more to do with the fact that people are willing to entertain a concept like auteur theory in a form of art that is considered more "serious," even if it actually isn't. It has more to do with the creator putting a personal imprimatur on the ultimate result than the specific form the work takes.

Miyazaki's work is considered srs bzns so he gets to be an auteur, nobody else does, though. Even if in actuality, a lot of animation actually is mainly directed by one person, who farms out the work to people in no position to tell him otherwise.

John K portrayed himself in this way, even though it was more by just stealing the credit for everything everyone else did than by being personally responsible for it. In many cases, his "contribution" was actually negative and was just harassing and annoying the people actually doing the work.

If this weren't true, his works after the original, where he apparently had something more like total control, would have been better and not vastly worse.
Honestly, even in live-action, auteurism is kind of a controversial topic. People have been dismissing it even in the beginning, stressing that it's the writer that most often drives the story, not the director. Not to mention all the little details that other crewmembers deal with. Critic Pauline Kael in particular called the art as a whole a collaborative process.
 

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Honestly, even in live-action, auteurism is kind of a controversial topic. People have been dismissing it even in the beginning, stressing that it's the writer that most often drives the story, not the director. Not to mention all the little details that other crewmembers deal with. Critic Pauline Kael in particular called the art as a whole a collaborative process.
One example is how rarely you hear about the director of photography. Everyone's heard of the Coen brothers or Martin Scorsese, but how many people remember Roger Deakins or Conrad L. Hall or Michael Ballhaus or any of the other amazing cinematographers responsible for the actual look of these films?

Maybe auteur theory is, in its entirety, absolute bullshit.
 

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For the Jannies who have to come into this thread and clean up this abortion's multiposts:

Apparently this is Chris Miller, a fucking failure of a human being who got fired or left the Asylum to form his own even shittier and even more poorly run production. Here's what he looks like:
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You can thank @thadwell for uncovering the identity of this future suicide and newest calf on the farms.
Speaking of suck ups, do any of you know about Nico Colaleo, the other sperg that also simped John K?
He's hanged out with John K, Ren & Stimpy creator before he was called out by Katie Rice & Robin Byrd for his shitty behavior btw.
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Here's him in a commercial with Kricfalusi for the 2008 presidential campaign.
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(Exerpt from Nico's interview with Animation Insider)
In your travels, have you had any brushes with animation greatness?
"I’ve been pretty lucky to meet a lot of fantastic artists and make the amount of friends that I have. John K has had me over his house many times for parties and if I had to choose, he’s the #1 person who made me want to be in animation, so I feel incredibly lucky about that." - Nico Colaleo (2015)

Nico Colaleo interview

Lastly, here's his only jab at John on Twitter during the year he got exposed as a pedophile.
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That's true. I'm always impressed by these people's variety. John is a one trick pony and in hindsight, I have no idea why people gave him the attention that they did.

I think the only thing in defense of John is that I don't think anyone actually liked Brothers Grunt.
I only came across The Brothers Grunt a week ago. Frankly I think it is the most disturbing cartoon to ever be aired on a mainstream network and yes I know MTV had a ton of weird shit during the Liquid Television era. It really shows that a cartoonist can make something that's a total miss and then go on to make a total classic. So here's hoping the people who made "Problem Solverz" can go on to make something cool.

But anyway John K was given a lot of attention because Ren & Stimpy really was that good. It along with Batman TAS were the first cartoons that started the concept that there could be a kid's cartoon that would be popular among kids along with grown adults. Among fans we all believed that Nick royally screwed John over by firing him, and because of R&S's clear decline in quality after switching to Games Animation the belief was that John was the true genius of the show. But then the Adult Party happened, then with the rise of the internet we all started learning how much of a douche John really is. And now we know he is a total creep.

Speaking of torturing eyeballs, here is some of John's more recent stuff.

In all sincerity I like the first drawing of the woman, dare I say it feels Picasso-esque. The other two are junk.
 
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I only came across The Brothers Grunt a week ago. Frankly I think it is the most disturbing cartoon to ever be aired on a mainstream network and yes I know MTV had a ton of weird shit during the Liquid Television era. It really shows that a cartoonist can make something that's a total miss and then go on to make a total classic. So here's hoping the people who made "Problem Solverz" can go on to make something cool.

But anyway John K was given a lot of attention because Ren & Stimpy really was that good. It along with Batman TAS were the first cartoons that started the concept that there could be a kid's cartoon that would be popular among kids along with grown adults. Among fans we all believed that Nick royally screwed John over by firing him, and because of R&S's clear decline in quality after switching to Games Animation the belief was that John was the true genius of the show. But then the Adult Party happened, then with the rise of the internet we all started learning how much of a douche John really is. And now we know he is a total creep.


In all sincerity I like the first drawing of the woman, dare I say it feels Picasso-esque. The other two are junk.
But when exactly was said decline? Because John was kicked out earlier than you think, and most shows lose their steam after a few seasons anyway.

What I'm trying to say is I feel like even now Johnny's lying is skewing the results, since the stupid fucker couldn't even last two seasons. and it wasn't even most of the second one.
 

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