Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

[Rekkington]

I finally got around to listening to the latest Strike and Mike and yeah, it’s clear that at least Striker pays attention to this thread or people repost what we say on BANG or Telegram to him. He ranted about comments of self-ghettoization that we’ve talked about many times here.

But it’s true! Realistically, how much actual growth has TRS seen since 2018? How many people even know TRS exists these days outside of the paypigs who still d’nate? How would people even know TRS exists? Unz isn’t that big of a site and the occasional Hyphen articles that go viral still only get thousands of views. In a world with billions of internet users, that’s very small outreach. Striker’s comment was that everywhere is a ghetto and that’s simply not true. TRS has been stagnant or declining since 2018-2019 and you know it too.

The unfortunate part is there is always going to be an artificial ceiling on something like National Hyphen because, best case scenario it gets really popular, they will start taking it off search and banning it from every content promotion service. There's no length they won't go to if you get successful, even if you play it completely straight.
In the case of Unz I think it's just detailed and autistic enough to stay off mainstream radar despite being pretty popular, but if you're trying to appeal to normies that's what they're scared of.

TRS really should be more popular though considering it's more of a morning zoo style news/comedy show. As dumb as it sounds I really do think clips would help a lot, considering how much of it is timely and headline-relevant. Plus a lot of the comedy is lost when it's just audio.

 

[Trash Burger]

 

[Blamo]

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This picture can be interpret in a way that the guy on the right put in the most effort to do the research and educate himself, using popular e/celebs as steps on the way.

 

[OrderofNineMembers]

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Shills/ZOGbots always push some sort of gatekeeper agenda to keep them in their matrix. Scapegoating is typically a deflection tactic for simple-minded folk. All they typically want to do is whine and moan about the problem without giving any sort of positive solution to combat it.

This picture can be interpret in a way that the guy on the right put in the most effort to do the research and educate himself, using popular e/celebs as steps on the way.

E-Celebs can be both a gatekeeper and a gateway for many. But there comes a time where these characters aren't really needed anymore. When you've reached a higher point on the ladder, their talking points become predictable and boring. It's best to take what you can learn with whatever realistic points could be gotten out of it and apply it to our own lives if possible. The internet is a useful tool for research purposes, but spending all day talking about utopian things that will never happen (ie: a white world imperium, race war/Turner Diaries overthrow ZOG stuff etc.) just keeps many in fantasy land.

 

[66andtwothirds]

LOLing at the new TDS raging about Rod Dreher's gay anti-racism article. moike seems angrier that dreher can afford to holiday to Spain every year than his politics.

 

[Berrakh]

LOLing at the new TDS raging about Rod Dreher's gay anti-racism article. moike seems angrier that dreher can afford to holiday to Spain every year than his politics.

I knew before checking that Dreher's imaginary asian friend wrote in.

 

[NeoGAF Lurker]

Rod Dreher is completely useless but he gets well compensated to be completely useless, something that I’m sure makes many in the TRS set very jealous, who get to be useless but don’t make half a million per year like Dreher.

 

[Berrakh]

The likes of Nick Fuentes & Co were initially the answer to this problem but then they got bogged down by dumb mistakes of their own. The Groyper Wars seemed to be great turn in a positive direction but that was then destroyed by Fuentes being a hypocrite who associated with schizos like Kami and federal informants like Milo.
A lot of the best commentators on the RW side of the internet (Truediltom, Braving Ruin, Sassy and Opionated, etc) also either stopped making videos or deleted everything altogether which sucked a lot of momentum from the online right wing particularly from 2017 onwards (this is from what I have seen so feel free to disagree on that*). With all that being said there are still some good figures around (particularly on twitter weirdly enough) but not enough to bring back that push from the 2015-2017 era imo. It's been a slow burn these past couple of years.

Because both sides of this are cults which rely on unaccountable leaders and a lot of self-marginalizing beliefs. And said beliefs allow actors of bad faith or just low repute to hide among their ranks. For wignats it’s the jewish thing, pushed well beyond recognizing another tribe where they exist. And for AmNats I am less familiar but the vibe I get is anti-woman stuff. Again far beyond realism and more akin to the kind of things the basic reprobate would say about how all his relationships are dysfunctional but he’s not the problem.

 

[Trash Burger]

Shills/ZOGbots always push some sort of gatekeeper agenda to keep them in their matrix. Scapegoating is typically a deflection tactic for simple-minded folk. All they typically want to do is whine and moan about the problem without giving any sort of positive solution to combat it.


E-Celebs can be both a gatekeeper and a gateway for many. But there comes a time where these characters aren't really needed anymore. When you've reached a higher point on the ladder, their talking points become predictable and boring. It's best to take what you can learn with whatever realistic points could be gotten out of it and apply it to our own lives if possible. The internet is a useful tool for research purposes, but spending all day talking about utopian things that will never happen (ie: a white world imperium, race war/Turner Diaries overthrow ZOG stuff etc.) just keeps many in fantasy land.

The solution is to stop funding these Jews and join a real organization in your own town (not the njp fed pot)

 

[Neo-Liberal Bugman]

Because both sides of this are cults which rely on unaccountable leaders and a lot of self-marginalizing beliefs. And said beliefs allow actors of bad faith or just low repute to hide among their ranks. For wignats it’s the jewish thing, pushed well beyond recognizing another tribe where they exist. And for AmNats I am less familiar but the vibe I get is anti-woman stuff. Again far beyond realism and more akin to the kind of things the basic reprobate would say about how all his relationships are dysfunctional but he’s not the problem.

In regard to the AmNat anti-women stuff, I definitely understand that there are big issues between men and women in the western world but some of Nick's takes are just bizarre eg "cheating is worse when women do it" (Don't men in their 30s have the highest rate of extramarital affairs in the USA?). As a "Europoor" when I always see Americans and Canadians whining about how bad their women are I think it's funnily ironic considering that their men are also some of the most mentally ill and degenerate in the world

The unfortunate part is there is always going to be an artificial ceiling on something like National Hyphen because, best case scenario it gets really popular, they will start taking it off search and banning it from every content promotion service. There's no length they won't go to if you get successful, even if you play it completely straight.
In the case of Unz I think it's just detailed and autistic enough to stay off mainstream radar despite being pretty popular, but if you're trying to appeal to normies that's what they're scared of.

TRS really should be more popular though considering it's more of a morning zoo style news/comedy show. As dumb as it sounds I really do think clips would help a lot, considering how much of it is timely and headline-relevant. Plus a lot of the comedy is lost when it's just audio.

Your description of banning the content reminded me of when GoDaddy stopped hosting TheDailyStormer in 2018 because the company owner or CEO was a petty Radlib who literally just woke up and decided he wanted to get rid of them from the company's service. There's so many ways for the powers that be to turn all of their attention to you and get one banned through any process available once you get big. Nick Fuentes getting most his content banned from YouTube in late 2019 is a great example of that. That being said I agree that entities like TRS and Myth of the 20th C. will be stuck in a type of limbo where they'll never quite crack the mainstream due to format, approach to content, edginess, etc.

 

[Rekkington]

Your description of banning the content reminded me of when GoDaddy stopped hosting TheDailyStormer in 2018 because the company owner or CEO was a petty Radlib who literally just woke up and decided he wanted to get rid of them from the company's service. There's so many ways for the powers that be to turn all of their attention to you and get one banned through any process available once you get big. Nick Fuentes getting most his content banned from YouTube in late 2019 is a great example of that. That being said I agree that entities like TRS and Myth of the 20th C. will be stuck in a type of limbo where they'll never quite crack the mainstream due to format, approach to content, edginess, etc.

To me the more egregious move was when Cloudflare banned them, and they're notoriously apathetic to the people who use their service. They are one of the most steadfast companies out there regarding freedo of speech and all that. I think there's only 2 sites they had ever banned, Daily Stormer and 8chan.
I always use the example of Molyneux because he went out of his way not only to avoid really edgy content, but as far as I know he never even cursed in his videos. But he had something like one million subscribers, so they just yeeted him one day for literally no reason. This is why I think YouTube is done for a lot of them, like how they've all had like 10 different Twitter accounts over the past while and there just seems to be a threshold where the moment you gain any momentum you get their attention. Like the moment you hit 2000+ followers the clock is ticking.

 

[Berrakh]

In regard to the AmNat anti-women stuff, I definitely understand that there are big issues between men and women in the western world but some of Nick's takes are just bizarre eg "cheating is worse when women do it" (Don't men in their 30s have the highest rate of extramarital affairs in the USA?). As a "Europoor" when I always see Americans and Canadians whining about how bad their women are I think it's funnily ironic considering that their men are also some of the most mentally ill and degenerate in the world

A lot of the double standard logic relies on a premise that it’s harder for men to be profligate. Which I don’t think is true at all in every case but also doesn’t follow that this absolves them. Arguably putting more effort into your vice is worse than being passively tempted. Simpler and more moral to just have a reasonably equal standard for a reason. Societies with very lopsided moral standards for men and women tend to have dysfunctional sexual politics and necessarily hierarchical arrangements to compensate. Meanwhile, as annoying as they may be on social media (where these guys get their opinions), white women are actually very loyal to their raza despite all the propaganda.

And yes, men do cheat more usually. I don’t know how specific age brackets work but it’s the general trend. Much of this male-centric worldview would be very at home in the ghetto.

 

[Rekkington]

A lot of the double standard logic relies on a premise that it’s harder for men to be profligate. Which I don’t think is true at all in every case but also doesn’t follow that this absolves them. Arguably putting more effort into your vice is worse than being passively tempted. Simpler and more moral to just have a reasonably equal standard for a reason. Societies with very lopsided moral standards for men and women tend to have dysfunctional sexual politics and necessarily hierarchical arrangements to compensate. Meanwhile, as annoying as they may be on social media (where these guys get their opinions), white women are actually very loyal to their raza despite all the propaganda.

And yes, men do cheat more usually. I don’t know how specific age brackets work but it’s the general trend. Much of this male-centric worldview would be very at home in the ghetto.

As much as I loathe Ben Shapiro, I liked his take on this which was: yes men are dogs, but the solution is not for women to mirror them but rather to fix the thing with men. And I think men recognize this. I don't think there is any love among men for deadbeat dads, absentee fathers, men who have affairs, etc. I'm not sure what the solution is, but I do not think it is celebrated.
I liken this to drinking. See when men are drunks, they at least know it, and they might hide it, or at best they know they're in a shitty bar surrounded by shitty guys and what they're doing is degenerate. On the other hand, women and alcoholism is celebrated; all the "mommy needs her wine" shit, women drinking like 4 bottles of wine a week to themselves, etc. I liken that to promiscuity; when men cheat they know they're being a piece of shit. But there is a narrative in the zeitgeist where when a woman cheats, she deserves it. Not all the time, but there is that tone there.

I agree however that the anti-woman sentiment has gone too far. Like it or not, you need women to make political ideas palatable. To believe the things I bet everyone in this thread believe, we're probably a bunch of abrasive dudes who might not be too optics-friendly. This is what the Alt-Lite figured out, and as cringe and boring as their takes are you really do need women involved to signal to the rest of the world that the people who believe these things aren't just autistic freaks.
Also, if women are so stupid and basic and uninformed, it should be easy to upload your data into them. They should not be such an enemy if the main grievance is they don't know anything and aren't hardened revolutionaries. I did this to my wife, I met her and like all women she was a Liberal. Now we're married and she's lecturing me on how Jews are ruining everything and I need to talk her down. It's remarkably easy to do, unless you're a virgin who lives at home and literally never talks to women.

 

[Berrakh]

For me it’s less “you need women in the movement”, I am not expert on that, it’s just that you personally need to find an acceptable arrangement with women as a young man. And you can’t be getting your ideas from ideologues or the parody of reality found online. And also the environment this rhetoric creates attracts scum of either gender. It’s either appealing to women with no self-respect or men with no respect to give to anyone. Maybe this is obvious to me because I am not from a broken home but my parents and their friends never acted like a Hollywood Jew’s idea of a big frat house. Obviously unhealthy stuff.

 

[tantric_depressive]

The solution is to stop funding these Jews and join a real organization in your own town (not the njp fed pot)

Yup, even if it's only to undermine it or leech off it, it's still something + a lot more useful than being just another person online complaining about the jews

Rod Dreher is completely useless but he gets well compensated to be completely useless, something that I’m sure makes many in the TRS set very jealous, who get to be useless but don’t make half a million per year like Dreher.

Lol, the only reason I know Dreher exists is from the MPC threads that used to chronicle his cuckery. How he has enough of a following to become rich is something I'll never understand

In regard to the AmNat anti-women stuff, I definitely understand that there are big issues between men and women in the western world but some of Nick's takes are just bizarre eg "cheating is worse when women do it" (Don't men in their 30s have the highest rate of extramarital affairs in the USA?). As a "Europoor" when I always see Americans and Canadians whining about how bad their women are I think it's funnily ironic considering that their men are also some of the most mentally ill and degenerate in the world

Yeah, the extreme anti-women stuff is brainlet-tier and very shortsighted. It's also the type of thing that would work itself out once society as a whole became less degenerate

 

[NeoGAF Lurker]

Lol, the only reason I know Dreher exists is from the MPC threads that used to chronicle his cuckery. How he has enough of a following to become rich is something I'll never understand

There are a gaggle of cuckservative authors who are well paid but have no actual following. Rod Dreher is one, David French and Bill Kristol are examples of others. They are well paid and their job is getting on their knees for Woke Capital. This is starting to be phased out as Woke Capital realizes they don’t need conservative talking heads at all. Rumor mill is that National Review is on its last legs. That rumor has been around for a while but especially so now.

Yeah, the extreme anti-women stuff is brainlet-tier and very shortsighted. It's also the type of thing that would work itself out once society as a whole became less degenerate

I agree. It’s always good to remember that the Nazi’s strongest base was middle class women in 1932-1933. The man v. woman slapfighting is extremely gay. Ultimately women prize stability, which is why so many go center-left because it’s considered the default in Current Year + 6. This has led to rioting and skyrocketing crime. They will look elsewhere if there are better options. Kind of like how most women will just default to adopting their man’s political viewpoints the vast majority of the time.

 

[Blamo]

Cultural sperging:

That being said I agree that entities like TRS and Myth of the 20th C. will be stuck in a type of limbo where they'll never quite crack the mainstream due to format, approach to content, edginess, etc.

In general, --if the Dissident Right is serious-- they need to consider new strategies to spread their influence and gain capital and experience. The media environment is different than what it was in 2017. Also they grew too arrogant, for example, they just dismissed the whole Coof thing instead of inserting themselves into the discussion and opening their views up to a new crop of people.

Say what you want about the "mask and vaccine" show, it is something that was discussed openly and it got the power being against it, in fact it had shown that people are in general against the System. So why not capitalize on this opportunity to put some fresh blood into the system?

I also add that they really missed up on the whole culture war issue as well, sure popculture is garbage, but people care about it, why not give the anti-sjw content a different spin than infertile classical liberalism? You need to find ways to insert your views into other's interests. That helps you striking a conversation in the first place.

They should just write down a few easily understandable issues and talk about those to reach more people, because let's face it what matters is who talks not what is he talking about. If you can gain their trust with talking about "hating the NWO" you can transition that to other subjects as well.

Also they need culture creation, that is not just reacting to the news. Liberalism would have never gained this much cultural ground if it was constrained to ideological talks. They needed a ton of media that just works with that frame of reference. The indirect approach works best.

 

[Rekkington]

There are a gaggle of cuckservative authors who are well paid but have no actual following. Rod Dreher is one, David French and Bill Kristol are examples of others. They are well paid and their job is getting on their knees for Woke Capital. This is starting to be phased out as Woke Capital realizes they don’t need conservative talking heads at all. Rumor mill is that National Review is on its last legs. That rumor has been around for a while but especially so now.

I agree. It’s always good to remember that the Nazi’s strongest base was middle class women in 1932-1933. The man v. woman slapfighting is extremely gay. Ultimately women prize stability, which is why so many go center-left because it’s considered the default in Current Year + 6. This has led to rioting and skyrocketing crime. They will look elsewhere if there are better options. Kind of like how most women will just default to adopting their man’s political viewpoints the vast majority of the time.

I always joked with people how every time there is even a whiff of a woman who enters into this zone who may have some good ideas and wants to just get involved somehow, the first and immediate reaction is "shut the fuck up bitch and have 9 babies." Aside from my personal designs for how society ought to operate, that's just not the best way to make this thing of ours seem reasonable and stable.

 

[Blamo]

I always joked with people how every time there is even a whiff of a woman who enters into this zone who may have some good ideas and wants to just get involved somehow, the first and immediate reaction is "shut the fuck up bitch and have 9 babies." Aside from my personal designs for how society ought to operate, that's just not the best way to make this thing of ours seem reasonable and stable.

Usually coming from childless men, I might add. It is bad optics, by all means.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I always joked with people how every time there is even a whiff of a woman who enters into this zone who may have some good ideas and wants to just get involved somehow, the first and immediate reaction is "shut the fuck up bitch and have 9 babies." Aside from my personal designs for how society ought to operate, that's just not the best way to make this thing of ours seem reasonable and stable.

It’s usually cause when unmarried / non going steady women get involved the group disintegrates due to tons of infighting. Therefore they think the best strategy is to prevent the infighting in the first place