Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

[Blamo]

It’s usually cause when unmarried / non going steady women get involved the group disintegrates due to tons of infighting. Therefore they think the best strategy is to prevent the infighting in the first place

Yeah, I can really see that line of logic. Considering the level of atomization our societies deal with your first group will be your only group. Ideally you would have a some barely overlapping social circles in a coherent meta context, so your political activism and dating pool would be a different thing, but with people who are on the same page as you.

 

[tantric_depressive]

It’s usually cause when unmarried / non going steady women get involved the group disintegrates due to tons of infighting. Therefore they think the best strategy is to prevent the infighting in the first place

Tbf to TRS, I don't remember them ever going full 'all women bad'. They were more in line with your post iirc, back when I used to listen

 

[Terrorist]

Cultural sperging:

In general, --if the Dissident Right is serious-- they need to consider new strategies to spread their influence and gain capital and experience. The media environment is different than what it was in 2017. Also they grew too arrogant, for example, they just dismissed the whole Coof thing instead of inserting themselves into the discussion and opening their views up to a new crop of people.

Say what you want about the "mask and vaccine" show, it is something that was discussed openly and it got the power being against it, in fact it had shown that people are in general against the System. So why not capitalize on this opportunity to put some fresh blood into the system?

I also add that they really missed up on the whole culture war issue as well, sure popculture is garbage, but people care about it, why not give the anti-sjw content a different spin than infertile classical liberalism? You need to find ways to insert your views into other's interests. That helps you striking a conversation in the first place.

They should just write down a few easily understandable issues and talk about those to reach more people, because let's face it what matters is who talks not what is he talking about. If you can gain their trust with talking about "hating the NWO" you can transition that to other subjects as well.

Also they need culture creation, that is not just reacting to the news. Liberalism would have never gained this much cultural ground if it was constrained to ideological talks. They needed a ton of media that just works with that frame of reference. The indirect approach works best.

If the Dissident Right is serious, it should do something positive for white people. I never hear any faction helping whites where they are as they are, only fantasy politicking. Most people don’t care to debate for hours so they can get “redpilled”; they want material needs met. Material promises have been the backbone of how radical groups have grown historically.

 

[Blamo]

If the Dissident Right is serious, it should do something positive for white people. I never hear any faction helping whites where they are as they are, only fantasy politicking. Most people don’t care to debate for hours so they can get “redpilled”; they want material needs met. Material promises have been the backbone of how radical groups have grown historically.

That is a good point. Of course one need to reach a certain level of organization and capital to actually do things IRL. The Dissident Right's structure is basically designed around being dox proof and ban proof. That doesn't translate into activities.

As for the material promises, on a political level... yeah. That is a possible opening, that is overlooked.
As for their current political party... "National Justice Party". What's up with the far-right and these extremely corny names? (Also they should drop the anti Americanism)

In fact, having a political party could be one of the last things you want to do. In Europe they always do that mistake. You form a political party, without having an ecosystem and economy of your own and then you just cuck out or turn into a dead thing because politics is not about the politicians it is about networks and connections.

Of course the big problem here as always for any nationalist is the "Conservative party". They can simply destroy a smaller more radical party just by adapting some of it's policies. They don't need to deliver on them, just people will vote to the big "sure" party and forgetting about the small party.

At the end of the day you need organization, but private ones. If you just go out and try to make a pro-White charity you will be nuked. But if you are just a bounch of bros handing out cans in Appalachia. Well, no rules against that. Just don't be an attention whore on social media. You need to build up human capital, not likes.

 

[tantric_depressive]

If the Dissident Right is serious, it should do something positive for white people. I never hear any faction helping whites where they are as they are, only fantasy politicking. Most people don’t care to debate for hours so they can get “redpilled”; they want material needs met. Material promises have been the backbone of how radical groups have grown historically.

Yup, and nowadays the opiate epidemic not only provides the perfect, politically neglected area in which to do much good, it also provides a perfect issue with which to redpill many sympathetic, long-suffering people. There's so many people who've lost loved ones to drugs, it provides one of the few ways to get through to certain people who otherwise wouldn't listen

 

[NeoGAF Lurker]

Tbf to TRS, I don't remember them ever going full 'all women bad'. They were more in line with your post iirc, back when I used to listen

You are correct. That was The Daily Stormer that went all in on white sharia. TRS joked about the white sharia memes but they never went “all women bad,” likely because most of them are or were married: Sven, Mike, Alex, Jazzhands, etc. Anglin has never had any real relationships outside of paying Filipina hookers. His right hand men, Azzmador and weev, aren’t married either.

Regarding grassroots huwhite activities, as soon as you do anything good for white people, the (((usual suspects))) will emerge and commit lawfare. Some bureaucrat would love to kill off an organization like this because it didn’t prioritize niggers enough. I’m not saying there’s no point, there absolutely is, but these organizations will not last long.

 

[Berrakh]

You are correct. That was The Daily Stormer that went all in on white sharia. TRS joked about the white sharia memes but they never went “all women bad,” likely because most of them are or were married: Sven, Mike, Alex, Jazzhands, etc. Anglin has never had any real relationships outside of paying Filipina hookers. His right hand men, Azzmador and weev, aren’t married either.

Regarding grassroots huwhite activities, as soon as you do anything good for white people, the (((usual suspects))) will emerge and commit lawfare. Some bureaucrat would love to kill off an organization like this because it didn’t prioritize niggers enough. I’m not saying there’s no point, there absolutely is, but these organizations will not last long.

That’s what I notice about this Based Sexism, Women are Animals stuff. It really does come from single men. And for some reason this crisis of credibility is never pointed out.

as for organization I really can’t give solid advice for a lot of the reasons you cite. Maybe something highly distributed (like antifa) but then it will just get banned.

 

[NeoGAF Lurker]

Thanks to our current laws, there’s any number of ways a pro-white organization can be fucked with. Hardly anyone carries cash so credit card processors can ban you. If you serve food to poor whites, some cat lady bureaucrat will swarm you with food inspectors and if one thing is off, you’re shut down and can appeal but that might take months and that’s if and only if they get around to considering your appeal at all. Some outreach for opioid addicts? Expect the IRS and state tax agencies to crawl up your ass.

I don’t want to make it seem hopeless but any efforts to help white people are going to have to be so far under the radar because “conservatives” will sell you out for a brief moment of social cred. I think it’s a good idea to do outreach for whites but yeah, it can never be out in the open. This is pretty much how Stalinism played out in the 1920s and 1930s: any attempts to help the unmentionables risked getting tossed in the gulag so there were underground networks and you never know who is actually a snitch.

 

[tantric_depressive]

Thanks to our current laws, there’s any number of ways a pro-white organization can be fucked with. Hardly anyone carries cash so credit card processors can ban you. If you serve food to poor whites, some cat lady bureaucrat will swarm you with food inspectors and if one thing is off, you’re shut down and can appeal but that might take months and that’s if and only if they get around to considering your appeal at all. Some outreach for opioid addicts? Expect the IRS and state tax agencies to crawl up your ass.

I don’t want to make it seem hopeless but any efforts to help white people are going to have to be so far under the radar because “conservatives” will sell you out for a brief moment of social cred. I think it’s a good idea to do outreach for whites but yeah, it can never be out in the open. This is pretty much how Stalinism played out in the 1920s and 1930s: any attempts to help the unmentionables risked getting tossed in the gulag so there were underground networks and you never know who is actually a snitch.

True, but then at least some people will be convinced and probably radicalized when they witness the fuckery. Build up enough local support & publicity for the group and one can end up with a very loyal core

 

[Blamo]

Thanks to our current laws, there’s any number of ways a pro-white organization can be fucked with.

Not to mention anarcho-tyranny is the law of the land. Laws and regulations are selectively enforced to pursue certain ends.

Hardly anyone carries cash so credit card processors can ban you.

Yet another reason I sperg against centralization and just consooming technological solutions without thinking about who owns said technologies and what they can do with it.

If you have a some fiat funny money, coins and bank notes under your pillow, they can't be just locked away with a press of a button. In fact they are respecting your privacy as well! Because you just can do transaction. Woah, what a concept. Also having a cash heavy civilization would have helped us keep commerce and economy in general more localized and keeping our communities alive. But Chinese garbage from Amazon is more important than fundamental human freedom. Muh convenience over everything, forgetting how if one thing can give you everything, it can take away everything as well.