Military History YouTuber gets hammered by Marxist Trolls for saying Hitler was a Socialist. Waits 10 months before escalating the situation. - Uses the analogy of 2 girls 1 cup and a legendary Ukrainian snuff film to explain Socialism.

Trig.Point

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Meet TIK a former shop worker and slightly Autistic YouTuber who up untill about a year ago made videos exclusively on Military History.

If you watch this video, and this is the first time you've watched his content, just know that he's not normally like this. The title in particular doesn't really hint at where he's goes with the video.


HIs videos have always been insanely detailed and tend to focus on battles that people were aware of but didn't have much specific knowledge of. So for example he did a 9 hour documentary on Operation Crusader a WWII battle in the western desert.

In early 2018 he did a very well received video arguing that Germany lost the War because of lack of oil



This is where things changed for him because he started to focus on NAZI economics and a key plank of this was that in understanding the failure of the Germany economy you had to realise that it was socialist. He wasn't initially trying to argue that Hitler was a socialist but that didn't stop the Che Guevara types jumping in mainly on Reddit and impenetrable YouTube response videos. r/badhistory was probably the key one. One post there with over 500 upvotes had a total of 2 sources one of which was Wikipedia. (He didn't say anything at the time but he's come back to that post, and its sources in the video)


TIK up to this point had a small following but was well known to people that liked an insane level of detail to their military History. He also had a habit of incorporating his sources, into the video in a specific way, so say he references a book, he'll put a thumbnail of the book on the screen.

Anyway so the reason this is entertaining is that while, he's gotten shit on Reddit twitter and youtube, most Marxist commentators have let him be, either because TIK is well respected or his videos are a little harder to debunk without really getting into the sources, and they're just too lazy to read all those books. So while someone like Vaush will go after barely literate German military fanboys they'll leave TIK alone.

I don't think that will be the case this time. He is going to start getting serious responses in the coming weeks to this video. He got in shit a while back because the YouTube algorithm stopped him using NAZI symbols on his maps he replaced it with the EU flag.

He's got a taste for it now, and I think he wants to start a fight.

Anyway go for the drama, and stay for the Military History.
 
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Y2K Baby

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The argument is based on a lacking of basic reading comprehension. He said the right to private property was suspended, not private property itself.

How fucking stupid are these people.

They also don't seem to quite understand what socialism is, especially what socialism meant to the Nazi party.
 

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The argument is based on a lacking of basic reading comprehension. He said the right to private property was suspended, not private property itself.

How fucking stupid are these people.

They also don't seem to quite understand what socialism is, especially what socialism meant to the Nazi party.
Real socialism is using fossil fuel reserves to pay for gibs like in Norway. Barnie Sandals told me that.
 

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They also don't seem to quite understand what socialism is, especially what socialism meant to the Nazi party.
But then again, neither does he- or at least, he doesn't recognize its most useful definition.
 

Trig.Point

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His videos on Operation Crusader were really good, politics really isn't his strong suit.

And the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic and republican.

I'm still undecided on his main argument, that said I agree that you can't understand how Germany failed in WW2 without dealing with how the state controlled the economy.

When he details how prior to the war German firms would import trucks just so they could use the tires on the truck (Tires had stringent import restrictions trucks less so) you do get a socialist vibe to it all.
 

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This is why I don't like America's school system. They don't teach you the bad stuff in US history like the Eugenics movement, or that the KKK was Democrat in origin, or any of that stuff. They don't even teach the fucking name of the Nazi Party, the NSDAP, the National Socialist German Workers Party. Nope, to long, Nazi is fine, forget the nuance of history. The one and only stance the NSDAP had was to kill all Jews, that's what sold the public on the party, right? Was that the only stance the Nazis had?
Let's just forget the multitude of social programs in Nazi Germany that have reflections in today's proposed polices, let's just forget the amount of censorship that went on, let's just forget the hundreds of other things happened before the Holocaust. Because, after all, republicans are the Nazis, right? All the racist democrats that made the KKK switched sides and became republican, right? That's why very blue cities don't have any minorities getting arrested, right?
If there's one thing that pushes my buttons, it's blatant disregard for history. If you don't care about it, you won't learn from it, and you will make the same mistakes again.
 

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Hitler was fiscally liberal (print money to build tanks) and socially conservative (use those tanks to cleanse the world of Jews, untermenschen, commies and social democrats).

I actually think TIK is on to something with his 'Hitler's 'shrinking markets' theory'.

Also /r/badhistory is full of typical reddit pseudointellectuals who attack in packs.
 

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That's not true.
Not taught in my school, at least, but the facts about the KKK and eugenics are true.
Historian George C. Rable argues that the Klan was a political failure and therefore was discarded by the Democratic leaders of the South. He says: the Klan declined in strength in part because of internal weaknesses; its lack of central organization and the failure of its leaders to control criminal elements and sadists. More fundamentally, it declined because it failed to achieve its central objective – the overthrow of Republican state governments in the South.
(George C. Rable, But There Was No Peace: The Role of Violence in the Politics of Reconstruction (2007) pp. 101, 110–111) It was democrat in inception, but collapsed because, surprise surprise, those who organize lynchings aren't the best of people.
Klan violence worked to suppress black voting, and campaign seasons were deadly. More than 2,000 people were killed, wounded, or otherwise injured in Louisiana within a few weeks prior to the Presidential election of November 1868. Although St. Landry Parish had a registered Republican majority of 1,071, after the murders, no Republicans voted in the fall elections. White Democrats cast the full vote of the parish for President Grant's opponent. The KKK killed and wounded more than 200 black Republicans, hunting and chasing them through the woods. Thirteen captives were taken from jail and shot; a half-buried pile of 25 bodies was found in the woods. The KKK made people vote Democratic and gave them certificates of the fact.
(Du Bois, Black Reconstruction in America: 1860–1880, pp. 680–681.) There's more of course, but there is at the very least a link between the two historically.

And eugenics was big in the US, even before the Nazis. It's crazy to read up on. There were "Better Baby Contests", the concept of the "Female Moron", using science to 'prove' blacks weren't as good as the white man. If you want a starting point, this Wikipedia has a bunch of sources on it. I know Wikipedia has a reputation, but they do cite sources and have actual photos and books and the like cited on this.
 

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You come from stupid school.

Don't condescende to me and waste your fucking breath showing your cum stains. You prejacced thinking I didn't know shit but personally, you're the beeffoon.
It was a very stupid school, it's part of the reason I'm a beeffoon. I'm just a big history nerd and I try to show my work.
I didn't mean to come off as rude to you, and I'm sorry that I was.
 

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You are no longer a beeffoon, you are now a beeffaroon.
I prefer beefcake, but beeffaroon's fine by me.
My school was in New Mexico, we didn't even have rooms, we had trailers. I'm not making that up, they were the kind you see at construction sites. It was because the actual building was under construction for almost five years, but you get the idea. I left before they finished building. I went to a school were kids stole the dirt bikes from the auto shop the first week, and everyone did chaw.
We threw bricks at each other for fun, like catch.
So my perspective is skewed a bit.
 
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